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Old 02-17-2005   #21
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And i figure AG has 2 more years left
We may address it in later rounds for someone who can help us, even start for us several years down the line after AGs retirement. But here's the deal, they will be under the gun this year to make the playoffs and that's why I'm confidant the first round pick will not be a CB or any DB - this is maybe ourur strongest area. We have plenty of areas where we need upgrades right now if we are to realistically compete for a playoff spot this year (or next).
Just looking at the D, We need a frontline players in both the DL and LB areas much more than the Defensive Backfield. There will be a lot of pressure for the team to go > 500 and into the playoffs this fall, therefor I don't think they
will use the 13th overall to pick someone who won't make a contribution until a futue year.
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Old 02-17-2005   #22
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oh yes i agree with you thats why i said i think AG has 2 more years and we prolly shouldnt worry about getting a CB replacement for Glenn not this draft but the next. We have bigger issues to be adressed other than CBs !
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What happens if a corner is by far the best player on the board at 13 ? What happens if Ronnie Brown is on the board at 13 ?
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we i dont know what will actually happen unless i some how become the Texans GM over night, JK. But seriously i still wouldnt get a CB, we would have a great secondary as it is if our front 7 could just get a little pressure !
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If Pac Man is their with his 4.3 -40 yd would you take him or trade the pick .
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cant lie i'd prolly take him, i mean when something good comes ya way ya gotta take it. But i still do feel we have bigger problems to worry about right now. I doubt he'll be there for us when we pick !
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It is really a chicken and egg discussion, when one area improves so will the other. If the dline gets better, then the LBs get better pass rush, and the DBs can cover for less time. If the DBs dont get burnt in 2 secs, then there is time for the front seven to get to the QB. Either way we need to improve both aspects. To me LB is our best position on defense, some improvement is needed but i think we have 4 solid players that can start in babin wong sharper and peek. Get them some help and results will be seen in terms of pass rush.
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It is really a chicken and egg discussion, when one area improves so will the other. If the dline gets better, then the LBs get better pass rush, and the DBs can cover for less time. If the DBs dont get burnt in 2 secs, then there is time for the front seven to get to the QB. Either way we need to improve both aspects. To me LB is our best position on defense, some improvement is needed but i think we have 4 solid players that can start in babin wong sharper and peek. Get them some help and results will be seen in terms of pass rush.

yes we know this if ya woulda read the other posts we posted we ALL agreed that if our DL could get some pressure we would have an awesome secondary, they actually cover well but just have to cover WAY TO LONG !!!!
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This post is more about a player you may not really have considered but can't refuse . You like blondes but Eva Longoria calls .
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This post is more about a player you may not really have considered but can't refuse . You like blondes but Eva Longoria calls .

haha very true, we might want things but dont mean we wont take others ! i liked that
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What if Ronnie Brown falls to 13 .
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We may address it in later rounds for someone who can help us, even start for us several years down the line after AGs retirement. But here's the deal, they will be under the gun this year to make the playoffs and that's why I'm confidant the first round pick will not be a CB or any DB - this is maybe ourur strongest area. We have plenty of areas where we need upgrades right now if we are to realistically compete for a playoff spot this year (or next).
Just looking at the D, We need a frontline players in both the DL and LB areas much more than the Defensive Backfield. There will be a lot of pressure for the team to go > 500 and into the playoffs this fall, therefor I don't think they
will use the 13th overall to pick someone who won't make a contribution until a futue year.
No offense, but what this says is IMO exactly why you have to look at BPA instead of needs order. DL may be a higher need than CB this year, but what best serves the Texans this year and in the future (1) a great potential CB at #13 who immediatly takes over as the 3rd CB and moves Faggins to 4th (and is very likely to move Glenn to nickle or dime in 1-3 years) and a good value DL at #47 who immediately comes into the DL rotation as the 4th best DLmen or (2) a reach at #13 for a DLmen who also immediately comes into the DL rotation and a CB who may come into dime packages now and hopefully develops someday into a starter? Perceived need can't irrationally overtake the talent of the actual players available at each draft selection--well it can but it isn't a good way to build a team IMO.
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wow those were deions words ???? a lil philosophy it sounds like, and where did he go to college ? Cause i never thought he could say anything half worth listening to !
That's his Florida State edu-mah-cation. Honestly he's more entertaining to me than Irvin is on ESPN. Both can be fun to watch at times.


I've mentioned in other threads that I'd be happy with Miller or Jones at #13. However, I'd prefer to trade down a few slots and pick up Marcus Spears, and then maybe getting a guy like Rogers or Browner in the second. Problem is that Rogers might not last till the second. Then perhaps grab Baas with the extra 2nd round pick. Thats a dream scenario, and chances are nothing close to that will happen. As far as needing a safety I'm not so sure we do need one, but even if we did I'd rather address it later in the draft by picking up a Jammal Brimmer in the 3rd or so. It will be fun to see what happens come draft day.
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I wonder how these CBs compare to last year . Dunta and Hall were rated much higher than the next which I think was Gamble . There seems to be six good CBs that will be first round picks . I guess my point would be Dunta was the 2nd CB at the 10th pick . The third CB this year will be much better than Gamble the 3rd CB last year and I think the Texans are going to have a shot at the 2nd CB at 13 .
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yes we know this if ya woulda read the other posts we posted we ALL agreed that if our DL could get some pressure we would have an awesome secondary, they actually cover well but just have to cover WAY TO LONG !!!!
Easy, im not saying that you guys didnt say we need dline. My point was that either way, we need to draft one of these positions and get some immediate help. my main point is that if we get a dlineman then everything else should improve greatly or if we get a DB that will help in coverage and add that extra second for the front 7 to get to the QB.
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Spears would make a bigger impact on this team than any CB in the draft.
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Thats if Spears is there . The only team who can take anybody is the 49ers . The rest have to get on message boards and speculate .
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Spears would make a bigger impact on this team than any CB in the draft.
It is nice to have that certainty in knowing the impact of each player in the NFL.

Signed--Johnathon Sullivan #6 pick and Jimmy Kennedy #12 pick, 2003 draft.
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It is nice to have that certainty in knowing the impact of each player in the NFL.

Signed--Johnathon Sullivan #6 pick and Jimmy Kennedy #12 pick, 2003 draft.
Both are DL by the way. One from UGA.
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Kennedy seemed to do fairly well for the Rams when he wasn't injured.
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