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Old 09-27-2009   #41
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We gave up 30+ last week, and still won, so that can't be it.
C'mon...you can't give up 30+ points a game and expect to win many games...that is it period as long as the offense puts points on the board.
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So you don't think Peyton expects to make a perfect throw every time, even with pressure in his face?

All I'm saying, is that Schaub could have played better.

Even after giving up 30+ points, we still could have won the game.

Are you denying either/both of those?
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Expecting to make a perfect throw and being ABLE to make a pefect throw every time are two different things, don't really know what you're trying to get at there. LOL, I'm sure just about EVERY NFL QB expects to make a perfect throw....just like every athlete in every sport expects to make the right play, but they don't.

And Again, I'm not sure how much "better" Schaub could have played......he played great, just like he did the week before.

As far as how we could've won the game, well yeah.........we could've won the game if the defense even played to a mediocre level, but they played well below that.
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Lord, what is the world coming to when a guy who throws for 657 yds, 7 TDs and 1 pick over 2 games & it's still not enough?
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The coaches did Schaub a disservice by going away from the run game that was being productive in a close game and letting the defense pin their ears back on our QB.
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Well after we watching

Bushing
and mcain did play Badly Bushing was benched

i didnt see GLover or our other rookie that i forgot the name of


Bullman needed more snaps

and Casey did play but was innactive

we did leave some points of the board in the 4th Q But hey at the end that was a bogus call on walter and brown fumbled Ball scurity is a MUST esp for a secondary Running back
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As far as how we could've won the game, well yeah.........we could've won the game if the defense even played to a mediocre level, but they played well below that.
& even after playing crappy defense... which you should have expected. We were still in position to win this game.
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even the announcers said the call on walter that costed us a TD was bogus
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& even after playing crappy defense... which you should have expected. We were still in position to win this game.
Yeah and the back fumbled the ball........also you're ignoring one of the reasons why we were in position to win the game was because of Schaub's play....it's tough to have it both ways. If he has even a average day, Houston doesn't have a shot in hell to win that game.

If Schaub has even a average day last week, we'd be sitting here talking about a 0-3 team. I mean you keep saying "we were still in position to win this game"...WTH do you think that was? Our defense didn't keep us in the game
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even the announcers said the call on walter that costed us a TD was bogus
It was, but that happens in the NFL...
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Yeah and the back fumbled the ball........also you're ignoring one of the reasons why we were in position to win the game was because of Schaub's play....it's tough to have it both ways. If he has even a average day, Houston doesn't have a shot in hell to win that game.

If Schaub has even a average day last week, we'd be sitting here talking about a 0-3 team. I mean you keep saying "we were still in position to win this game"...WTH do you think that was? Our defense didn't keep us in the game
& you're ignoring the fact that our defense forced the fumble that gave us the ball, and allowed Schaub to do his thing.

Shaub sucks.

Shaub needs to get better.

Shaub is perfect.

All three of those statements are different. I said & believe the second one.

Schaub cost us the game.

Schaub could play better.

Schaub played a perfect game.

Again, three different statements. I said, & believe the second one.
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& you're ignoring the fact that our defense forced the fumble that gave us the ball, and allowed Schaub to do his thing.

Shaub sucks.

Shaub needs to get better.

Shaub is perfect.

All three of those statements are different. I said & believe the second one.

Schaub cost us the game.

Schaub could play better.

Schaub played a perfect game.

Again, three different statements. I said, & believe the second one.
Well......let me stop and thank the defense for getting a turnover. I mean it was the least they could do.

Thanks defense, thank you for getting a turnover after spending the entire day getting your teeth kicked in


Schaub isn't going to get much better than the way he's played the last two games........and you know what, he shouldn't have to, the defense is what needs to improve.
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what we have here is failure to accumulate the players needed to run a winning NFL franchise.

one, we go back to the draft & free agency-

this we have done just not well enough.

two, replace the coaching staff-

done this too. do we really want to revist this scenero again?

three, trade for impact players-

yet to try. only dabbled in who they projected to be impact players.

So the Texans need to nail their draft picks & aquire better free agents, keep the coaching staff intact for continuity sake, & make a big trade for a change not just under the radar deal to actually gain on the competition & show their fan base they care about putting a better product on the field @ Relient
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Wasn't good enough today.
Wow. 300 yards, 3 touchdowns, and drove the offense down for the tying TD, but the refs blew a call on what would have been his fourth TD pass of the game. His next pass after the interference call was to David Anderson at about the 1 yard line. Are you blaming him for Chris Brown fumbling on the next play? For the defense giving up 31 points to the Jags? What do you honestly expect from him: 400+ yards & 5 tds?
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Wow. 300 yards, 3 touchdowns, and drove the offense down for the tying TD, but the refs blew a call on what would have been his fourth TD pass of the game. His next pass after the interference call was to David Anderson at about the 1 yard line. Are you blaming him for Chris Brown fumbling on the next play? For the defense giving up 31 points to the Jags? What do you honestly expect from him: 400+ yards & 5 tds?
Look, if mediocrity is fine with you, then that's fine. As long as he's not the main culprit for this weeks loss we'll let him take the whole week off, how does that sound?

As a matter of fact, since "the reason" we lost this week, was because the defense couldn't get off the field, let's let the whole offensive & special teams have the rest of the year off of practice.

No reason to try to get better there, because we're already perfect, and waiting on the defense to catch up so we can start bringing the Lombardies home to Houston.

We had 10 offensive possessions yesterday, we only scored on 4 of them. 2 were 3 & outs, 2 others we were forced to punt, because we couldn't cross mid-field. So all together, there were 4 possessions were our offense couldn't cross mid-field. then we had 2 turnovers, one field goal, and 3 TDs.

6 out of 10 possessions ended with no score. Only 4 ended in scores. That's less than 50%.
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Look, if mediocrity is fine with you, then that's fine. As long as he's not the main culprit for this weeks loss we'll let him take the whole week off, how does that sound?

As a matter of fact, since "the reason" we lost this week, was because the defense couldn't get off the field, let's let the whole offensive & special teams have the rest of the year off of practice.

No reason to try to get better there, because we're already perfect, and waiting on the defense to catch up so we can start bringing the Lombardies home to Houston.

We had 10 offensive possessions yesterday, we only scored on 4 of them. 2 were 3 & outs, 2 others we were forced to punt, because we couldn't cross mid-field. So all together, there were 4 possessions were our offense couldn't cross mid-field. then we had 2 turnovers, one field goal, and 3 TDs.

6 out of 10 possessions ended with no score. Only 4 ended in scores. That's less than 50%.
Oh I see. We should have scored everytime we had possession. You expect perfection and nothing else is good enough.

Doesn't matter that the defense made the Jags offense look fantastic yesterday.
Doesn't matter that the refs blew the pass interference call on Walter yesterday.
Doesn't matter that Cris Brown fumbled the ball at the goalline yesterday.

Schaub did not lead the team to a score everytime we had the ball. So we lost.

Hmmm, think something is wrong with your expectations.
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one, we go back to the draft & free agency-

this we have done just not well enough.

two, replace the coaching staff-

done this too. do we really want to revist this scenero again?

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yet to try. only dabbled in who they projected to be impact players.

So the Texans need to nail their draft picks & aquire better free agents, keep the coaching staff intact for continuity sake, & make a big trade for a change not just under the radar deal to actually gain on the competition & show their fan base they care about putting a better product on the field @ Relient
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Boy, atl cav told all of you off. This guy has nine posts and is a die hard Houston "supporter" from all the way back when Schaub became the #1 quarterback.

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Well after we watching

Bushing
and mcain did play Badly Bushing was benched

i didnt see GLover or our other rookie that i forgot the name of


Bullman needed more snaps

and Casey did play but was innactive

we did leave some points of the board in the 4th Q But hey at the end that was a bogus call on walter and brown fumbled Ball scurity is a MUST esp for a secondary Running back


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Look, if mediocrity is fine with you, then that's fine. As long as he's not the main culprit for this weeks loss we'll let him take the whole week off, how does that sound?

As a matter of fact, since "the reason" we lost this week, was because the defense couldn't get off the field, let's let the whole offensive & special teams have the rest of the year off of practice.

No reason to try to get better there, because we're already perfect, and waiting on the defense to catch up so we can start bringing the Lombardies home to Houston.

We had 10 offensive possessions yesterday, we only scored on 4 of them. 2 were 3 & outs, 2 others we were forced to punt, because we couldn't cross mid-field. So all together, there were 4 possessions were our offense couldn't cross mid-field. then we had 2 turnovers, one field goal, and 3 TDs.

6 out of 10 possessions ended with no score. Only 4 ended in scores. That's less than 50%.

300 yds passing & 3 TD's is not mediocrity dude..far from it.
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Look, if mediocrity is fine with you, then that's fine. As long as he's not the main culprit for this weeks loss we'll let him take the whole week off, how does that sound?

As a matter of fact, since "the reason" we lost this week, was because the defense couldn't get off the field, let's let the whole offensive & special teams have the rest of the year off of practice.

No reason to try to get better there, because we're already perfect, and waiting on the defense to catch up so we can start bringing the Lombardies home to Houston.

We had 10 offensive possessions yesterday, we only scored on 4 of them. 2 were 3 & outs, 2 others we were forced to punt, because we couldn't cross mid-field. So all together, there were 4 possessions were our offense couldn't cross mid-field. then we had 2 turnovers, one field goal, and 3 TDs.

6 out of 10 possessions ended with no score. Only 4 ended in scores. That's less than 50%.
Man. Thunderkyss, you're way off base on this one. OMG, what else do you want the guy to do. He's had no running game to back him up at all, and the defense has been atrocious. Yet, he's had us in position to win two out of the three games played so far. I can't reasonably think of anything else the guy can do, except for maybe passing for 400 yards and 6 TDs a game.
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