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Old 02-14-2005   #21
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Hell, I would take Travis Taylor before Kevin Johnson.
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I would really like to see us get someone in the slot who can burn. I remember Gaff getting chased down in the Chicago game and thinking "was he jogging?" I think we would see a lot more big plays if we got some speed in the slot. Lots of YAC, sorta like what Stokley does to us.
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Some interest stats regarding Gaffney in '04:

5.3 Yards After Catch average (YAC) - 8th among WRs with 40+ catches
21 1st down receptions on 3rd down - 7th in NFL (21 3rd down catches/21 1st downs)
82.9 1st down/catch % ( 34/41 ) - 6th in the NFL
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A slot reciever can be dangerous . Its about match ups . I think Gaffney is more quick than fast . I quess WRs have to have straight ahead speed . Yo Vinny when are ya'll going to have the message board trivia tournement ? You can settle this knowledge thing once and for all . I'm betting the farm a 21 yr. can't beat me .
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Insert QB in WR's place.


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I don't blame Johnson for wanting to leave. He had Boller tossing him the ball. I think he could do well in Houston if only because of his familiarity with Palmer's offense. If he could be had for a reasonable salary then I'd be all for it, but something about his history makes me think he'll be wanting more around the lines of #1 WR money. Guess we'll have to see what happens to Joey Porter first since he's likely to set the market for WR. Hopefully we don't have a run like last year when CBs were in high demand, and garnered more money than they likely should have gotten from teams desperate for decent CBs.
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KJ is a solid WR,he is not a burner but why do you need a burner when you have Andre Johnson.KJ is a good possesion WR that would complement AJ nicely.
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Those stats are pretty good. Did Gaff play more #2 or slot this past season?
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Those stats are pretty good. Did Gaff play more #2 or slot this past season?
Slot. Bradford was at the #2.
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Slot. Bradford was at the #2.
I thought Gaff played #2 alot this year, at least when Bradford was injured. Gaff is listed as #2 on the final depth chart.
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I thought Gaff played #2 alot this year, at least when Bradford was injured. Gaff is listed as #2 on the final depth chart.
It was off and on. I remember some instances where Armstrong was lined up as the #2. The only set WR was AJ at #1.
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Somebody correct me if I am wrong as I know someone will.
I thought the slot recievers needed to be able to read the defense and run fluid routes to the open areas. Speed is overrated for this particular role.

BTW. I think the best WR who could have played the slot position may have been Steve Largent.
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Another guy who was great in the slot was the Oilers' Drew Hill. He would always find the open crease for Moon on 3rd down. I would love for Carr to have a guy like that. Gaffney & Armstrong have that type of potential, it just takes time.

Regarding KJ, he & McNabb were college roomies at Syracuse and have been crying about getting together for years. Don't know what Andy Reid thinks of Johnson, but the Eagles will have an opening soon when they release Fred-Ex. My guess is that Kevin ends up in Philly.
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Regarding KJ, he & McNabb were college roomies at Syracuse and have been crying about getting together for years. Don't know what Andy Reid thinks of Johnson, but the Eagles will have an opening soon when they release Fred-Ex. My guess is that Kevin ends up in Philly.
I'm pretty sure he will take less money to play with the Eagles too
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well let me put it this way...would you turn away a talented reciever who wants to come and play...no...if he wants to come here and play for the vet. minimum then i say let him
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Clarence Moore was getting most of the starts at #2 the second half of the season so I'm not sure if that's a function of KJ's skills eroding, his attitude (due to Billick's system), his work ethic or what. All of the above would be red flags to me.

His next team will be his 4th in 3 seasons so that's not a good sign. If he's willing to give up $$$ to get on a winner immediately, he may be feeling that he's on the downside and wants to go somewhere (like Philly) where he has a legit shot at a ring. If that's the case it doesn't seem likely that he would want to come here, even with the Palmer factor.
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Kevin Johnson suffers from a severe case of Pinkston-itis. He would rather fall 1 yard short of the first down marker than take a hit and fight for that extra yard. Plus he is a terrible run blocker. Gaffney and Armstrong are better than him IMO.
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I would rather have BigPlayTrey Haverty for a slot receiver
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KJ has a very nice set of hands, and I can't say that I see any problem with him being your slot guy or maybe a #2. True he won't block, thats why he was cut from cleveland. But I never saw this pinkston problem, and I seriously think you are blowing it out of proportion
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Clarence Moore was getting most of the starts at #2 the second half of the season so I'm not sure if that's a function of KJ's skills eroding, his attitude (due to Billick's system), his work ethic or what. All of the above would be red flags to me.

His next team will be his 4th in 3 seasons so that's not a good sign. If he's willing to give up $$$ to get on a winner immediately, he may be feeling that he's on the downside and wants to go somewhere (like Philly) where he has a legit shot at a ring. If that's the case it doesn't seem likely that he would want to come here, even with the Palmer factor.
May have more to do with Moore. while not consistent he was a tough red-zone match up and score at least 4 TDS in a relative small amount of playing time.
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KJ numbers have started to go down after his 1000 yard season and on top of that he is injury prone!! I would rather draft Mike Williams from USC or Edwards from Mich. before I would sign Ravens leftovers!!
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