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Old 09-18-2009   #1
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Your starting a franchise and you have a choice, a shut-down corner or a dominant ball-hawking safety... you pick
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fans may pick a S but a real team would take the shut down corner. They are much, much, much harder to find.
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Same here Vinny, corner.
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With the way rules are structured now .... is there really such a thing as a shut down corner ?
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I'll take the corner...

Then trade my 2nd rounder for this year and next to move up and take the safety.
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Default Re: Shut-Down Corner or Dominant Safety?

I went safety. My man-crush on Troy Polumalu might explain it.
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Default Re: Shut-Down Corner or Dominant Safety?

How many shutdown corners would yall say are in the NFL? Nnamdi is the best corner in the league. Is Bailey still a shutdown corner, and would you guys consider Revis to be one?

I would pick shutdown corner, but besides Asomugha & possibly Revis, I can't really think of too many corners I would choose over Reed or Polamalu.
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Default Re: Shut-Down Corner or Dominant Safety?

Id take the safety. They are typically less expensive, and I think a Safety can be like the most versatile player on the defense. A guy like Polamalu can cover like a corner, tackle like a linebacker, and rush the passer like a defensive lineman. Because they can go everywhere on the field, you can't gameplan against them nearly as easily as you can a corner.


2009 pro bowl safeties:
Adrian Wilson - superbowl
Brian Dawkins - playoffs
Nick Collins - GB, missed playoffs
Ed Reed - playoffs
Polamalu - super bowl champs
Hope - playoffs
5/6 safeties in the playoffs, both superbowl teams had a probowl safety

2009 probowl corners:
Nnamdi - Oakland, missed playoffs
Finnegan - playoffs
Revis - Jets, missed playoffs
Woodson - missed playoffs
Winfield - missed playoffs
Samuel - playoffs
Barber - missed playoffs
Harris - missed playoffs
2/8 corners in the playoffs. Neither superbowl team had a probowl safety


2 best corners in the game in my opinion over the last few years: Nnamdi and Bailey. Neither have had much success.
2 best safeties? Probably Reed and Polamalu. Maybe Dawkins. All have been regular contenders

A good safety correlates with success. Read into it what you will
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Default Re: Shut-Down Corner or Dominant Safety?

The Raiders have a shutdown corner and consistantly miss the playoffs.

The Ravens (Reed) and Steelers (Polamalu) have great safetys and are always in the playoffs or have dominant defenses.
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How many shutdown corners would yall say are in the NFL? Nnamdi is the best corner in the league. Is Bailey still a shutdown corner, and would you guys consider Revis to be one?

I would pick shutdown corner, but besides Asomugha & possibly Revis, I can't really think of too many corners I would choose over Reed or Polamalu.
Revis? Well I'm sure glad we took an all world DT instead of that sorry bumb. With a stout DL like we have we don't need a great CB. Is the SARCASM icon really necessary?
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Id take the safety. They are typically less expensive, and I think a Safety can be like the most versatile player on the defense. A guy like Polamalu can cover like a corner, tackle like a linebacker, and rush the passer like a defensive lineman. Because they can go everywhere on the field, you can't gameplan against them nearly as easily as you can a corner.


2009 pro bowl safeties:
Adrian Wilson - superbowl
Brian Dawkins - playoffs
Nick Collins - GB, missed playoffs
Ed Reed - playoffs
Polamalu - super bowl champs
Hope - playoffs
5/6 safeties in the playoffs, both superbowl teams had a probowl safety

2009 probowl corners:
Nnamdi - Oakland, missed playoffs
Finnegan - playoffs
Revis - Jets, missed playoffs
Woodson - missed playoffs
Winfield - missed playoffs
Samuel - playoffs
Barber - missed playoffs
Harris - missed playoffs
2/8 corners in the playoffs. Neither superbowl team had a probowl safety


2 best corners in the game in my opinion over the last few years: Nnamdi and Bailey. Neither have had much success.
2 best safeties? Probably Reed and Polamalu. Maybe Dawkins. All have been regular contenders

A good safety correlates with success. Read into it what you will
Exactly my thoughts. You can't deny the simple fact that almost every good team has a dominant safety. What have the Texans ALWAYS lacked? A dominant safety.
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Safety.

A great FS/SS can make a so so CB good/very good.
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Default Re: Shut-Down Corner or Dominant Safety?

a safety has so many more roles and responsibilities on the field that his play is more determining of how the defense plays than one cornerback. polomalu for example is as good in man to man as many of the best cornerbacks, as well as centerfielder or blitzing linebacker or any other role the specific play requires. a great cornerback however is very defined and doesnt play near as large a part in the direct outcome because even the best cornerbacks need help from the pass rush and safety support to keep up with top receivers like andre johnson. the jets for example always had a safety shaded toward andre even though revis is considered a top tier cornerback.
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Default Re: Shut-Down Corner or Dominant Safety?

gtexan02 made the best point, safetys are way cheaper than shut down corners. And I can't help but think, what good does a $25mil CB do for you against guys like Brady who spread the wealthy to all his receivers so well? Safetys can take away from another teams running game way more than a CB can as well.
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fans may pick a S but a real team would take the shut down corner. They are much, much, much harder to find.
Yep. We need a safety right now more than we need a corner, but that wasn't the question. As a start-up, you take the CB.
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gtexan02 made the best point, safetys are way cheaper than shut down corners.
And why are they cheaper? Because they aren't so damn rare. If you have a chance at a true shutdown CB, you take him. Safeties can be had a little easier.
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definitely the corner. they're not just more rare, they're more valuable.
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Who cares if they are more rare or not. One correlates with wins, one does not. Easy choice, Im surprised so many people on here want the shutdown corner
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Definetly the shut down cornerback, they're much harder to find and you guarantee that at least one WR is shut down.
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