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Kube's ain't going anywhere haters. 5-1 speaks for itself.
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This was prior to his having his "ass handed to him by Dom Capers".
Interpreting body language is a losing proposition. Don't put too much into it.
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I have always been a firm believer in running your stuff, but aggressive defenses have shown us that they can take away our whole game plan. What it boils down to is, that Kubiak is a horrible when it comes to adjustments and clock management. We need a head coach, not a developer of coordinators.
This post was three years, one month, and one day ago. There's your improvement.
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Interpreting body language is a losing proposition. Don't put too much into it.

Whatever man. Dude looked like he was in a funk before the game ever started and I made note of it. Game began and what do you know, he played like he was in a funk.

All I'm saying.
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This post was three years, one month, and one day ago. There's your improvement.
Tonight's one game had little to do with adjustments and everything to do with terrible discipline. The offside call on the punt is inexcusable. That's for starters.

No disrespect, but you get a swelled head after starting 5-0 and deservedly so, but in the last week two things happened...

You lost your best defensive player
They're were pissed off like hell and played like the top contending team they are supposed to be.

This is still a 12-4 team that, if they can beat Baltimore, has a potential lock on home field throughout the playoffs. Next weeks game for your team is a much bigger test, and it tlooks like they too, will be missing their heart and soul if Rey Rey is gone...

It happens. I'm sure 49er fans feel the same way tonight too.
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This post was three years, one month, and one day ago. There's your improvement.
What improvement is to be made when you can't run or pass the ball?

Oh and when you give the ball back the other team throws up another TD.

I'm not saying none of this is his fault but the players played like complete garbage today and Wade (The Savior) didn't help Kubiak out too much either.
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Tonight's one game had little to do with adjustments and everything to do with terrible discipline.
I agree. But after 3+ years of seeing the same problems from the head coach, it deserves to be discussed no differently than any of the other ongoing problems.
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Whatever man. Dude looked like he was in a funk before the game ever started and I made note of it. Game began and what do you know, he played like he was in a funk.

All I'm saying.
Schaub's body language is always off imo. I think you're reading palms. The entire offense played like crap. Maybe it's Arian's vegan diet?
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What improvement is to be made when you can't run or pass the ball?
Well, for starters you call that timeout immediately and prepare for the punt. You get the special teams coach that you employ to get his players to freakin' block someone and try for a decent return. Then you come up with a couple plays that are a balance of risk vs. reward that may result in something. That means no Hail Marys and no 3rd and long draw plays, in case that needed to be clarified. If they don't result in anything, you gave it an honest attempt. If they do, maybe you get a FG or even a TD.

What you don't do is kneel down on the sideline and pray to God that the half ends right then and there for the whole world to see.
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I agree. But after 3+ years of seeing the same problems from the head coach, it deserves to be discussed no differently than any of the other ongoing problems.
And what about the previous five weeks of disciplined, relatively turnover/sack free football? Do we get to discuss those, too?
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And what about the previous five weeks of disciplined, relatively turnover/sack free football? Do we get to discuss those, too?
I forgot what I had you on ignore for, so I took you off to see your contributions to this thread. Glad you're here.

If you want to take a 5 game sample size against the other 97, I'm cool with that. But it's not like I can't go back to games this very year and point out the same tendencies that people have complained about for years. It's just becoming more and more evident that he's not going to change, is all.

He is what he is after 102 games.
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Many teams go into the half that way . I personally thought they neded to regroup at that point Esp given the field position and the way the offensive line was blocking
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Well, for starters you call that timeout immediately and prepare for the punt. You get the special teams coach that you employ to get his players to freakin' block someone and try for a decent return. Then you come up with a couple plays that are a balance of risk vs. reward that may result in something. If they don't, you gave it an honest attempt. If they do, maybe you get a FG or even a TD.

What you don't do is kneel down on the sideline and pray to God that the half ends right then and there for the whole world to see.
You are right.

But that one mistake did not cost the team the game.

Green Bay was going to get the ball back any ways and put up 7 (we did not stop them once when we needed to) and then if we gave it a honest try it's likely the ball wasn't going to be moved.

They were just out played today and out coached. It happens though. It's more about how the team responds to something like this though.

This is the first time for Kubiak and this team as a 'powerhouse' team.

Lets see if they are going to play angry next game, hungry, and play much better... Or if they are going to come out in a shell next week and play like a team that's realized they aren't ready yet.
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He's the perfect head coach when we have a lead. Trying to come back from two or three Touchdowns. Well, that's another thing. We used to have a comeback type of offense in 2009 with Kyle Shanahan as offensive coordinator. We need a young and brilliant young mind with energy at OC. His loss was the Redskins gain.
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I forgot what I had you on ignore for, so I took you off to see your contributions to this thread. Glad you're here.

If you want to take a 5 game sample size against the other 97, I'm cool with that. But it's not like I can't go back to games this very year and point out the same tendencies that people have complained about for years. It's just becoming more and more evident that he's not going to change, is all.

He is what he is after 102 games.
And Kubiak had the same talent 100 games ago?

Iam not saying he isnt at fault. But different circumstances.
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You are right.

But that one mistake did not cost the team the game.
I said that above. At the risk of repeatedly repeating myself, this thread isn't about one game.
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Lets see if they are going to play angry next game, hungry, and play much better... Or if they are going to come out in a shell next week and play like a team that's realized they aren't ready yet.
Against a 5-1 Ravens team just as banged up as we are? I'd imagine they'll play much better and win. We can limp into the bye week with a 6-1 record and the 1st seed in the AFC. I'll take it at this point.
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And Kubiak had the same talent 100 games ago?

Iam not saying he isnt at fault. But different circumstances.
Exactly.

I don't understand why that has that much to do with our past two seasons.

Kubes has been winning games now. People saying it's the same I disagree, because we lost so many heart wrenching close games...yall remember that?

How many games we lost on one or two plays that eventually kept us out of the playoffs? Those years?

The past two years have been different. Outside of this game the Texans have been rolling, one bad game and it's time to rethink about all the bad that has happened and forget any of the good.
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I said that above. At the risk of repeatedly repeating myself, this thread isn't about one game.
Oh but it is or it wouldn't have been brought back up 10 months later at the first incident of a Texans loss. I wonder if it was bookmarked
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He's the perfect head coach when we have a lead.
I don't think I agree with that, even. He's the perfect coach when the team has the lead against an inferior opponent. He's made some decisions that have facilitated good teams coming back against the Texans by turtling and not going for the kill several times. As I said after the Saints game last year, when you face a QB like Brees, Rodgers, Brady, etc., you have to play it differently than you do when you play Gabbert. You can't sit on a lead and run the ball exclusively. This team really can't even run the ball successfully at ALL when the other team knows it's coming, to be honest. If this team needs a first down to close out the game, there's more than likely going to be a punt and a reliance upon the defense to end the game. That's fine when you face the Dolphins. Not fine when you face the Saints, Packers, Pats, etc.

He turtles. He's scared to strive for a big play because he's scared of the potential negative. His risk-reward analysis is almost entirely weighted toward risk. In other words, he's a *****.
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