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View Poll Results: Is Amobi-Wan a bust?
Yes, he's been dissapointing for the most part 40 25.16%
No, he's progressing as expected 16 10.06%
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Old 08-29-2009   #1
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From what your un-trained eyes have seen, is Amobi-Wan a bust?
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Old 08-29-2009   #2
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Default Re: Is Amobi a bust?

I'll give him one more chance this season. If he doesn't step it up this year he will be on the verge of bust.
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From what your un-trained eyes have seen, is Amobi-Wan a bust?
I think it is still too early. It was one of the problems with taking such a young player. I'd like to see more out of him, but I hesitate to call him a bust. I thought he had some flashes in his first season so the talent is there.
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Default Re: Is Amobi a bust?

This is his 3rd season. If he doesn't produce this year, he's a bust as a first round pick, regardless of what he ends up doing the rest of his career.
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Default Re: Is Amobi a bust?

The signs are concerning. But I'll wait to see how things settle out with a more stable supporting cast and more time to develop and season the "new attitude" and proposed "new D scheme."
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the signs are concerning. But i'll wait to see how things settle out with a more stable supporting cast and more time to develop and season the "new attitude" and proposed "new d scheme."
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Default Re: Is Amobi a bust?

After reading this board for the past few months, and seeing him play in the preseason games thus far, I voted that he IS a bust.

And now we see why teams passed on him (such as Miami).

He's just not going to play "up" to an NFL level for a DT.

We need to hire a specialist who can help us with drafting defensive tackles in the first round. We're about to be 0-2.
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Default Re: Is Amobi a bust?

Showed too much flash out of the gate for me to call him a bust.

Also, if he turns a corner and breaks out during his career nobody is going to call him a bust. Haynesworth didn't show his talent until it was a contract year, but once he did nobody (media, forums, or otherwise) has uttered the word "bust" when speaking of him.

I have a feelin Okoye will be here at least until his contract expires, like TJ.
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Default Re: Is Amobi a bust?

I'm very critical of his play but I'd say it's too early in lieu of his age. It's not his fault the Texans made him a 10th overall pick. He gets a pretty nice apprentice wage though...must be nice. Now, I'm very concerned with his inability to anchor and sustain his gap integrity. That's a huge problem with a DT. It's like saying our QB is coming along but the only problem he has is he can't throw. I thought he shot gaps better as a rookie but I think the NFL Guards have figured out that he can't bull rush so it makes him too one-dimensional as a DT. Frankly, if I have a one dimensional DT, I'd rather him be a run stopper than a gap shooter.

Not to totally dog on Ak0ye so I'll say something positive about his play....His one consistent strength is that he is an asset when the play is away from him because he has the foot speed to be an above average player laterally. That's a big part of having lighter, quicker linemen. If you can seal off all your cut back lanes then your linebackers can tee off more recklessly and be more decisive about the direction they are headed when they know the DT's are right on their heels cleaning up the cut backs.
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Default Re: Is Amobi a bust?

Third year - time to see what Amobi can do when he puts his mind to it. Give him this year before we start screaming for heads to roll. I'm willing to be patient - you never know when the light will go off in his young brain. If that light is going to shine, it should be this year.
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Default Re: Is Amobi a bust?

Okoye was great for the first half of his rookie year so it's not like he doesn't have the talent or ability. But considering we could have drafted Willis or Revis (guy I wanted) instead of Okoye, I'd say the Texans FO are more to blame. I'm pulling for Okoye, but this year he has no choice but produce. Next year's DT draft class is going to be sick.
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Default Re: Is Amobi a bust?

I've got to see what he does this year.

This year, the scheme is supposed to be geared toward his strengths.
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I'm very critical of his play but I'd say it's too early in lieu of his age. It's not his fault the Texans made him a 10th overall pick. He gets a pretty nice apprentice wage though...must be nice. Now, I'm very concerned with his inability to anchor and sustain his gap integrity. That's a huge problem with a DT. It's like saying our QB is coming along but the only problem he has is he can't throw. I thought he shot gaps better as a rookie but I think the NFL Guards have figured out that he can't bull rush so it makes him too one-dimensional as a DT. Frankly, if I have a one dimensional DT, I'd rather him be a run stopper than a gap shooter.

Not to totally dog on Ak0ye so I'll say something positive about his play....His one consistent strength is that he is an asset when the play is away from him because he has the foot speed to be an above average player laterally. That's a big part of having lighter, quicker linemen. If you can seal off all your cut back lanes then your linebackers can tee off more recklessly and be more decisive about the direction they are headed when they know the DT's are right on their heels cleaning up the cut backs.
So our first rounder is a role player. Not an impact player.

That's how Amobi strikes me: A guy who can contribute, but he's never going to get his name in the papers on Monday.
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Bust is way too harsh...people forget that he really produced his rookie season and last year was the big disappontment, despite him having nagging injuries all year
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Default Re: Is Amobi a bust?

Yeah, he's not a bust but he has been disappointing. There wasn't a vote option for that. I still argue that he can be a very good pass rusher.
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Frankly, if I have a one dimensional DT, I'd rather him be a run stopper than a gap shooter.
A one dimensional DT can be effective, if he's exceptional in that dimension. John Randle was an exceptional 3 technique DT, because he had exceptional quickness. I thought the Texans were getting that type of DT in 0-koye. Other than a handful of games at the beginning of his career, I haven't seen a glimpse of that Randle type ability.

Maybe he's been miscast as an everydown player. Has Amobi bulked up too much to rush the passer, but still not enough to anchor versus the run? I don't have the answer. I just know that what's been tried thus far isn't working.

One of the biggest problems when building almost strictly through the draft is that you have little room for error in your draft selections. Kubiak & Smith spent a very valuable resource on 0-koye. I don't think they can afford to see him bust.
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A one dimensional DT can be effective, if he's exceptional in that dimension. John Randle was an exceptional 3 technique DT, because he had exceptional quickness. I thought the Texans were getting that type of DT in 0-koye. Other than a handful of games at the beginning of his career, I haven't seen a glimpse of that Randle type ability.
I think he's looked very good shooting gaps in preseason. He wasn't asked to do that last year. He's getting good penetration and doing it quickly. But it's in passing situations only.
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http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...80&postcount=9

And BTW, purposely butchering a player's name in order to make some kind of statement is lame, classless, and disrespectful, in my opinion.

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And BTW, purposely butchering a player's name in order to make some kind of statement is lame, classless, and disrespectful, in my opinion.

I'm not even sure I get the pun....0-koye?
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I'm not even sure I get the pun....0-koye?
I believe it was supposed to be Ok0ye - zero in the middle. And meh ... it happens to every player that fans talk about. I guess the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.
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