Usain Bolt could run the 40 in.....wait for it

[blitz90]

.....3.97 seconds?

Horse bleep or is it possible?

http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/blog...fantasy,184570

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by blitz90

.....3.97 seconds?

Horse bleep or is it possible?

http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/blog...fantasy,184570

he's one of those once in a generation freaks. That "once in a lifetime" term is overused, but not in this case.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Vinny

he's one of those once in a generation freaks. That "once in a lifetime" term is overused, but not in this case.

True. First there was Owens, then Lewis, now Bolt.
BTW, here's something interesting on the subject from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40-yard_dash
"Furthermore, the use of hand-timing in the 40-yard dash can considerably alter a runner's time; the methods are not comparable to the rigorous electronic timing used in track and field. 4.2 and 4.3 second 40 yard dashes are not unheard of among high school athletes, and it is estimated that Usain Bolt could break the 4.00 mark.

Darrell Green, who ran one of the fastest 40-yard dashes ever at 4.09 seconds [1], had a collegiate best of 10.08 s in the 100 meters.[2] Justin Gatlin, who ran 9.85 s for a gold medal at the 2004 Olympic 100 metres, has a verified 40-yard dash best of 4.42 s.[3] This reflects the difference that timing methods can cause to a runner's time. However, this disparity could be caused by differences in endurance as well."

[Second Honeymoon]

the fastest i remember being timed NFL-wise was Alexander Wright from Alabama (or was it Auburn). I think thats right. He ran what I remember to be a 4.17. I think the Cowboys drafted him. I know Deion thinks he ran the fastest ever, but I think Alexander or maybe it was Anthony Wright. It was a while back.

its possible that he could break 4 seconds but I would have to see it to believe it. that is just superhuman quickness getting going that fast in that short of a time.

the guy is a freak though. freaky deaky fast and explosive like TNT.

[HOU-TEX]

Shoot! I can run a 3.97........................in the 10.

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

Shoot! I can run a 3.97........................in the 10.

I can't even get out of bed in 3.97

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Second Honeymoon

the guy is a freak though. freaky deaky fast and explosive like TNT.

I dunno, you mean explosive like TNT like when Barry Bonds & Mark McGwire and others were cranking out all of those home runs ? I'm not saying he was on juice, but look at the history of Track & Field ? A very dirty sport to be sure.
But back to 40-yard times. With todays technology it should be a snap to determine where the clock was at the 40-yard mark on Bolts recent 9.58 100-meter WR. We might already have a sub 4.00 40 yarder right there on the tape ?

[hobie]

I was listening to one of the AM sports talk shows last week and they were talking to a Doctor about that, and asked him if he though that it was possible to run the 100 in that fast of a time without being aided by something. He said that he doesn't think it could be. He also pointed out that he was a little intrigued by how much the Jamaicans were dominating the event. He said they don't have a tough doping policy over there and that there are things that are not traceable inthe blood.
If he is clean, and these days, who knows anymore, that record will last forever, as he took close to a second off the previous mark, I can't see anyone breaking 9.58 without being on something..

[Second Honeymoon]

Originally Posted by hobie

I was listening to one of the AM sports talk shows last week and they were talking to a Doctor about that, and asked him if he though that it was possible to run the 100 in that fast of a time without being aided by something. He said that he doesn't think it could be. He also pointed out that he was a little intrigued by how much the Jamaicans were dominating the event. He said they don't have a tough doping policy over there and that there are things that are not traceable inthe blood.
If he is clean, and these days, who knows anymore, that record will last forever, as he took close to a second off the previous mark, I can't see anyone breaking 9.58 without being on something..

your basically talking about automobile-like quickness from a prone stance.

its possible, some would say probable, that he (and others on Jamaica's team) could be taking something but they haven't found anything yet.

[Mr teX]

i dont know about that b/c bolt isn't explosive out of the blocks which is what the 40 is about. He's fast once he uncoils and get that long lanky frame of his moving down the back stretch. Its a law of inertia type deal with him. Case in point, If you watch him run closely almost everyone is with him out of the gate, then at about 40-50m actually, he pulls off.

still fast as **** though!!!

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by Mr teX

i dont know about that b/c bolt isn't explosive out of the blocks which is what the 40 is about. He's fast once he uncoils and get that long lanky frame of his moving down the back stretch. Its a law of inertia type deal with him. Case in point, If you watch him run closely almost everyone is with him out of the gate, then at about 40-50m actually, he pulls off.

still fast as **** though!!!

If he isn't explosive out of the blocks then why does he create such a huge lead right off the bat? He takes an early lead in all his races.

[Specnatz]

Originally Posted by Mr teX

i dont know about that b/c bolt isn't explosive out of the blocks which is what the 40 is about. He's fast once he uncoils and get that long lanky frame of his moving down the back stretch. Its a law of inertia type deal with him. Case in point, If you watch him run closely almost everyone is with him out of the gate, then at about 40-50m actually, he pulls off.

still fast as **** though!!!

[jlam]

The best article I saw on this subject was just after the summer olympics last year.

The basic premise is that it's not an apples/apples comparison because of how the timing philosophy differs from track vs an NFL combine.

In track, the gun sounds and the clock starts, putting the onus on the athlete to react afterwards. By the time the runner is out of the blocks, .1 to .2 seconds have run off the clock (human reaction time). In a combine environment, it's the opposite in that the clock doesn't start until the athlete decides to move. Further still, if the clock is hand started upon the athlete's movement, that's another .1 or more reaction time in his favor.

Bolt's 40 yd split time in his WR run was probably somewhere between 4.3 and 4.4 seconds in track time. Translated over to a combine environment, and it probably would be in the low 4's. Blazingly fast, but likely not sub 4.

[DavidC]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

True. First there was Owens, then Lewis, now Bolt.
BTW, here's something interesting on the subject from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40-yard_dash
"Furthermore, the use of hand-timing in the 40-yard dash can considerably alter a runner's time; the methods are not comparable to the rigorous electronic timing used in track and field. 4.2 and 4.3 second 40 yard dashes are not unheard of among high school athletes, and it is estimated that Usain Bolt could break the 4.00 mark.

Darrell Green, who ran one of the fastest 40-yard dashes ever at 4.09 seconds [1], had a collegiate best of 10.08 s in the 100 meters.[2] Justin Gatlin, who ran 9.85 s for a gold medal at the 2004 Olympic 100 metres, has a verified 40-yard dash best of 4.42 s.[3] This reflects the difference that timing methods can cause to a runner's time. However, this disparity could be caused by differences in endurance as well."

so why are they still using stop watches at the combine, and not the electronic timing like they have for track and field? seems to me that if you are going to pay Darius Heyward-Bey big time money for a 40 time that may or may not be accurate because of hand timing, that an investment in electronic timing would be warranted. How much could it actually cost to install at the combine?

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by jlam

The best article I saw on this subject was just after the summer olympics last year.

The basic premise is that it's not an apples/apples comparison because of how the timing philosophy differs from track vs an NFL combine.

In track, the gun sounds and the clock starts, putting the onus on the athlete to react afterwards. By the time the runner is out of the blocks, .1 to .2 seconds have run off the clock (human reaction time). In a combine environment, it's the opposite in that the clock doesn't start until the athlete decides to move. Further still, if the clock is hand started upon the athlete's movement, that's another .1 or more reaction time in his favor.

Bolt's 40 yd split time in his WR run was probably somewhere between 4.3 and 4.4 seconds in track time. Translated over to a combine environment, and it probably would be in the low 4's. Blazingly fast, but likelynot sub 4.

Exactly. And conversly that means that the football guys at the NFL Combine & the Pro Days aren't running as fast as advertised. However if we started revealing that the fastest WRs, CBs, and RBs weren't even breaking 4.5, now that wouldn't be nearly as interesting as the prospect of watching a "reported" 4.2 something would it ?