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Old 08-24-2009   #1
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A year ago, the Giants felt pretty comfortable that if something happened to Eli Manning, David Carr would be able to step in and win a couple of games.

This year they may not be as sure.

Chris Palmer, the Giants quarterbacks coach, said today that hes not pleased with Carr this summer. Hes been inconsistent this summer and has gotten back into some of the bad habits that ruined the start of his NFL career when he was with the Houston Texans.

Im not pleased with David right now, Palmer said. I think hes got to be more consistent. Hes a quarterback. Hes got to prove that hes a winning quarterback. I think there are certain things he has to improve upon, and Ive told him that. He has the ability to play in this league. Hes a very, very talented player, but hes got to do things the way we want them done.

Some of that has to do with Carrs seeming inability to stay in the pocket when the pass rush gets through. Behind what has been a porous offensive line all summer long, Carr has seemed to scramble too often and sometimes too quickly. Palmer said hes a little anxious in the pocket, which is the reputation he carried with him from his five tumultuous years in Texas when he was sacked a ridiculous 249 times.

So far Carr is 8 for 16 for 82 yards and a touchdown in two preseason games, including an awful 2-for-6, 8-yard outing on Saturday night against the Bears. His regression has been surprising,

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/gia...#ixzz0P8jD2MPt
lol, just shocking.
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I actually caught some of that Giants game when Carr was playing, and dude still has "happy feet" in the pocket. He never seems to settle down to make his reads, and yep, he used the dump pass quite a bit.
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LOL. The Onion couldn't come up with a funnier article
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Some of that has to do with Carrs seeming inability to stay in the pocket when the pass rush gets through. Behind what has been a porous offensive line all summer long, Carr has seemed to scramble too often and sometimes too quickly. Palmer said hes a little anxious in the pocket, which is the reputation he carried with him from his five tumultuous years in Texas when he was sacked a ridiculous 249 times.
He is having flashbacks of playing in Houston and thinks the second the line breaks down even in the slightest he better get out. If Manning goes down the NY crowd will eat Carr alive.
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I actually caught some of that Giants game when Carr was playing, and dude still has "happy feet" in the pocket. He never seems to settle down to make his reads, and yep, he used the dump pass quite a bit.
Was he still wearing his "mittens"?
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heh, even some of the comments under the article bring back memories. Anyone remember posts like this one?

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What kind of nonsense is this? Palmer should shut his mouth instead of throwing his player under the bus. This is an internal matter. If you want to say you want to work on some things with your QB, fine. There isn't exactly a crackling competition for the 2 spot, so playing mind games with him doesn't serve any productive purpose here. Carr has a few bad practices/pre games and Palmer isn't "pleased". Eli effectively disappears in the last 5-6 weeks of the '08 season, plays a miserable playoff game, and gets a huge contract extension and no one is "displeased"---despite his obvious troubles with both consistency and accuracy in the wind.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/gia...#ixzz0P8tMb5UV
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Was he still wearing his "mittens"?
y'know, I didn't even notice. I was too busy being hypnotized by those happy feet of his.

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heh, even some of the comments under the article bring back memories. Anyone remember posts like this one?
This one made me laugh:

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Carr is regressing? Ha! Eli regresses to a rookie level of play every year by midseason, and he's the highest paid player in the NFL right now! I wouldn't worry so much about a backup QB - sheesh! Yes, even as a Carr fan I've noticed he's a little more erratic than usual in his decision making lately. Such a shame with his strong passing arm, but he's our number two. Eli is our number one purely for his decision making and leadership which make up for his piss-poor passing arm. If our back-up isn't perfect when our starter isn't either, what's the big deal? Hopefully he doesn't take any snaps during the regular season other than to mop-up. If he's doing more than that, then we have bigger problems anyway. Another slow day at Camp I see... LOL! Sometimes no news is better than non-news...

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Yes, even as a Carr fan I've noticed he's a little more erratic than usual in his decision making lately. Such a shame with his strong passing arm, ...


He has a cannon ... as long as the receiver is within 3 yards of the line of scrimmage. How can anyone knowingly say they are a Carr fan? What has he EVER done to earn fans?
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Some of that has to do with Carr’s seeming inability to stay in the pocket when the pass rush gets through. Behind what has been a porous offensive line all summer long, Carr has seemed to scramble too often and sometimes too quickly. Palmer said “he’s a little anxious in the pocket,” which is the reputation he carried with him from his five tumultuous years in Texas when he was sacked a ridiculous 249 times.

So far Carr is 8 for 16 for 82 yards and a touchdown in two preseason games, including an awful 2-for-6, 8-yard outing on Saturday night against the Bears. His regression has been surprising,


His regression is anything BUT surprising. For those of you that might have watched the game, if you squinted just right, you would have sworn that you were watching the OL of the Texans of old. They certainly borrow their "olay" technique, giving the QB's virtually no pass protection. Given familiar sequences, this brought back haunting childhood memories and reverted Carr to his reflex childhood responses. Sometimes one can never shake their childhood post-traumatic syndrome (in his case, 249 sacks). Carr most likely never be able to "grow up" to become a QB............a real NFL QB........under fire.
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heh, even some of the comments under the article bring back memories. Anyone remember posts like this one?
I have to give Hulk75 his props because through it all, he always has David's back.
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lol, just shocking.
Let me preface this by stating ONCE AGAIN, I was against drafting Carr with the 1st pick. Having said that, can you blame the guy for being gun shy when the pocket collapses? I mean, it's a miracle he doesn't have a visual, nervous, tick !
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Carr sucks and set this franchise back five years. The best thing about Carr is that the franchise knows what bad looks like. Our offensive line improved immensely when he was not in the line up.
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The title of this thread is funny as hell.
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Carr sucks and set this franchise back five years. The best thing about Carr is that the franchise knows what bad looks like. Our offensive line improved immensely when he was not in the line up.
Too bad other players had to pay the price by being sacrificed on the altar of David Carr while the coaches, front office, and ownership figured that out.
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Let me preface this by stating ONCE AGAIN, I was against drafting Carr with the 1st pick. Having said that, can you blame the guy for being gun shy when the pocket collapses? I mean, it's a miracle he doesn't have a visual, nervous, tick !
Carr never had any pocket awareness and that is one key ingredient to being a NFL QB. He is Rob Johnson with better hair. Sure, they both would play better with better hair, I mean better O-lines, but they would both eventually sack themselves in critical situations. If the NFL network had a list of incredible self-sacking QB's with bangin' hair, David Carr and Rob Johnson would be one - two.



Interestingly, Palmer has a thing for incredible self-sacking QB's apparently. Yes, the 3rd guy on the right is Rob "I sacks myself" Johnson.

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I really would love to see Carr get a shot to start this season for like two games in the middle of division race in like week 10 or something like that.

I just want to see how the NY media reacts to the play of David Carr. Sorry, but I just want to see the train wreck in NY.
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Carr never had any pocket awareness and that is one key ingredient to being a NFL QB. He is Rob Johnson with better hair. Sure, they both would play better with better hair, I mean better O-lines, but they would both eventually sack themselves in critical situations. If the NFL network had a list of incredible self-sacking QB's with bangin' hair, David Carr and Rob Johnson would be one - two.



Interestingly, Palmer has a thing for incredible self-sacking QB's apparently. Yes, the 3rd guy on the right is Rob "I sacks myself" Johnson.

They both had that California cool also .
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They should've never let go of the "Hefty Lefty". :snicker:
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Default Re: Palmer "not pleased" with stalled Carr

i watched 3 plays of that game, including one sack, and another pass which he got rid of way too quickly cause he thought he had guys in his face. Carr hasnt changed a bit.
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