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Old 08-23-2009   #1
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1) Todd Wade, OT (2005)

Todd Wade was signed from Miami in 2005 and was deemed the solution to the hole left by Tony Bosseli. He was young, talented, and proven himself as a starter. After a year with Seth Wand starting at LT, the Texans were beyond desperate and wanted a sure-fire starter at the position who could be relied upon for a long time. The front office thought he could help us so much, that Casserly gave him a 6 year, $30 million dollar contract putting him well into the top 10 highest paid OTs at the time. In fact, Eric Winston’s current contract is fairly comparable in numbers to what we gave Wade; a scary thought when considering the difference in talent level and how large contracts have become since then. While Casserly gave Wade a more than generous contract, Wade did not return the favor in any sense. His play made him one of the worst offensive linemen at the time which is incredibly disappointing as our O Line at the time was one of the worst in the NFL. He literally moved like a massive stone and was a huge liability in pass protection. As if that wasn’t enough, he spent a solid portion of his time with Houston injured (played in 22 of 32 possible games). After two years, Wade was let go and was replaced by the cheaper, better, and much funnier Ephraim Salaam. What makes Wade the most disappointing FA signing to me is that he was paid top 5 OT money and performed like he shouldn’t even be a starter in the league.


2) Anthony Weaver, DL (2006)

Oh Anthony Weaver. The first major signing in 2006 and one of the players who was going to help us turn around our defense regardless of what position he played. 3-4 DE, 4-3 DT; We paid him like he was talented enough to play any position on the DLine (in fact we somewhat expected it as well). Once we knew for sure we would run a 4-3 and added the amazing Mario Williams with the first overall pick, Weaver found out he would be a DE on run downs and a DT in nickel packages. It was a lot to ask, but he supposedly was talented enough to pull it off. After 3 seasons with Houston, it’s safe to say that it was too much to ask for him to play only one position. Weaver’s performance was never stellar or on par with what we expected, but the first season he was given some leeway because of the new system and lack of talent around him. After all he was supposedly our stud DL. However, after the 2007 and 2008 season when we kept adding talent on the DLine (Okoye) and saw players break out as well(Mario), Weaver’s performance stayed constantly on the low end. In fact, Weaver ended up with more interceptions in Houston than he did sacks. If that’s not sad enough, he had the same number of sacks in three seasons that Travis Johnson did: one. It’s obvious how much Weaver hurt us in the long run both performance based and with his contract. He was a horrible fit for our defense and was one of the worst signings Houston has ever made.


3) Ahman Green, RB (2007)

Once it was made aware that Domanick Davis’ (now Williams) career had been officially cut short due to a tragic knee injury, we needed to pick up a viable starter. Lucky for us, Gary Kubiak came from the famous zone blocking scheme offense that could make late round draft picks look like stars. While it’s possible Houston could have done just that in the draft, Smith and Kubiak decided to go with a more veteran approach and signed Ahman Green. He would be re-united with his former coach Mike Sherman and was given a gracious contract that anticipated him being the consistent RB we lacked the year before. Everything started off well as Green started off the season averaging over 4 YPC and had at least 70 yards each game. However, he was injured in game 3 and never fully recovered that season. The next offseason, Houston drafted Steve Slaton to reduce Green’s workload and be a change of pace back for him. However, the tables were turned when Green proved injury prone once again and Slaton became the workhorse RB. Green was released this past offseason and while he had mediocre success, the expectations and contract highly outweighed the lackluster performance he delivered while in Houston. He could have been a solid starter in our offense, but couldn’t stay out of the training room and was paid too much based on previous success.


4) Robaire Smith, DL (2005)

Robaire was an interesting player with Houston. He was just as highly regarded as Wade and Morlon Greenwood during the 2005 offseason class that was easily our most expensive. Smith was brought in to help an aging DLine that had Gary Walker and Seth Payne and was paid incredibly well (6 years, $26 million). He was thought to be the new star on the line, although expectations weren’t as high as they were for someone like Wade because Smith was more of a luxury than a severe dependency. However, without that pressure and urgency he seemed to just blend in along the D Line and bring mediocrity. Smith wasn’t incredibly horrible in Houston, but we needed a lot more than average. He stuck around for two seasons before getting cut and moving on. The ironic thing is that Casserly felt Smith was so talented that he actually tried Smith at FB during the 2005 pre-season (the first of many warning signs of the season to come). Smith doesn’t land higher on the list because he actually played 2 seasons and was decent. However, he still was a disappointment and was incredibly over-paid like everyone on this list. Had he been injured, he definitely would have ended up higher on the list.


5) Rosevelt Colvin, LB (2008)

Colvin is more of a less remembered bad signing which has everything to do with how short of a tenure he had in Houston. The team wanted to get another pass rusher opposite Mario Williams and saw Colvin as the ideal 3rd down rusher to pair with him. He was signed just before training camp and was given special attention so he could catch up and make the switch from 3-4 OLB to 4-3 DE sooner rather than later. Because of his age, Colvin wasn’t given a monster or lengthy contract. Compared to the other contracts on this list, Colvin’s seems like it was meant for an AFL player. However, Colvin rounds out the list because it was completely guaranteed and he didn’t even make the team. He lasted only a few months before getting cut because of incredibly poor performance. What makes it so bad too is the fact that he couldn’t beat out such easy competition like Tim Bulman and Earl Cochran; 2 players that had struggled to make NFL rosters before landing in Houston. If Colvin would have played half the season and underperformed, he might have made it as an honorable mention (even with poor performances). But the fact that Houston basically gave him $1 million just to “try out” in the sense is what makes this a bad signing.


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Default Re: Worst 5 FA Signings

Not trying to add to the pessimism that's going around, but I made a Top 5 FA signings thread a month ago and finally got around to creating this. What does everyone think? Agree/disagree, did I leave anyone off, etc.
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I don't agree with Colvin. It was a short term stop gap deal from the start. I'd put something like Quinn Gray ahead of Colvin. Neither made a blip of an impact here, and Gray cost more.
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Colvin was pretty much just a camp invite.....we just took a little look at him so he doesn't deserve to be on a top 5 worst FA signing list. I can think of worse.
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Victor Riley has a case. Stacey Mack was terrible for us.
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I don't agree with Colvin. It was a short term stop gap deal from the start. I'd put something like Quinn Gray ahead of Colvin. Neither made a blip of an impact here, and Gray cost more.
And Gray actually had a shot to make the team? Gray cost $600K, Colvin cost at least $1 million and was supposed to be a pass rush threat opposite Mario, at the very least make the team.

Good suggestion on Riley, added him and Jordan Black to the honorable mention list.
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And Gray actually had a shot to make the team? Gray cost $600K, Colvin cost at least $1 million and was supposed to be a pass rush threat opposite Mario, at the very least make the team.
Colvin wasn't "supposed to make the team", he was never a guarantee to make the team. He was a intriguing player who they wanted to take a look at (nothing more...much like Gray), but due to age and injury he wasn't the same guy so they cut him and didn't add him to the roster.
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Colvin wasn't "supposed to make the team", he was never a guarantee to make the team. He was a intriguing player who they wanted to take a look at (nothing more...much like Gray), but due to age and injury he wasn't the same guy so they cut him and didn't add him to the roster.
Then why was his $1 million contract completely guaranteed while Gray's contract wasn't? Colvin was brought onto the roster, paid good money, and expected to be a situational rusher for the 2008 season.
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I dont agree with taking a shot at Tim Bulman to disparage Rosey Colvin. Bulman looks to have carved out a niche on the DL for us as a high motor rotation player and deserves better than what was said about him.
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And Gray actually had a shot to make the team? Gray cost $600K, Colvin cost at least $1 million and was supposed to be a pass rush threat opposite Mario, at the very least make the team.
I thought Gray was a more expensive signing. Apologies if my memory was faulty. I'll use another example -- I'd put Sam Cowart ahead of Colvin. He was expected to be a shut down LB for us, but sadly was injured and a rookie named DeMeco Ryans answered the bell. There's also Kailee Wong, who did at least play for us, but was nothing special and certainly not worth what it was he signed for. I just don't remember anyone thinking Colvin was going to be some big impact player. I agree with your first four (although I'd put Smith ahead of Green due to the length of the contracts), but I just don't think of Colvin as a huge negative for us.

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Then why was his $1 million contract completely guaranteed while Gray's contract wasn't? Colvin was brought onto the roster, paid good money, and expected to be a situational rusher for the 2008 season.
Probably, because that's what it took to get him to sign here. It doesn't matter though, because it's still just 1 million dollars.....that's chump change and doesn't/didn't guarantee him anything here or make him a shoe in for a roster spot.

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Morlon Greenwood anyone?
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Morlon Greenwood anyone?
Quite possibly our only successful big contract free agent acquisition.

He had a few solid years, then fell off last year and was cut. He wasn't great, but they brought him in the be the athletic chase and tackle clean up machine of our linebacking corps, and that's what he did.
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I guess I never considered Green a bad signing because I never expected anything of him to start with and thought he was a vet placeholder who was coming off injuries and about to hit a bad age. At most I thought he might work because of the system and the Texans had no one else who could run consistently.
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This thread makes me want a drink.
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Ahman was by far and away the worst FA signing. Talk about the tail end of his career.
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1) Todd Wade, OT (2005)

Todd Wade was signed from Miami in 2005 and was deemed the solution to the hole left by Tony Bosseli. He was young, talented, and proven himself as a starter. After a year with Seth Wand starting at LT, the Texans were beyond desperate and wanted a sure-fire starter at the position who could be relied upon for a long time. The front office thought he could help us so much, that Casserly gave him a 6 year, $30 million dollar contract putting him well into the top 10 highest paid OTs at the time. In fact, Eric Winston’s current contract is fairly comparable in numbers to what we gave Wade; a scary thought when considering the difference in talent level and how large contracts have become since then. While Casserly gave Wade a more than generous contract, Wade did not return the favor in any sense. His play made him one of the worst offensive linemen at the time which is incredibly disappointing as our O Line at the time was one of the worst in the NFL. He literally moved like a massive stone and was a huge liability in pass protection. As if that wasn’t enough, he spent a solid portion of his time with Houston injured (played in 22 of 32 possible games). After two years, Wade was let go and was replaced by the cheaper, better, and much funnier Ephraim Salaam. What makes Wade the most disappointing FA signing to me is that he was paid top 5 OT money and performed like he shouldn’t even be a starter in the league.


2) Anthony Weaver, DL (2006)

Oh Anthony Weaver. The first major signing in 2006 and one of the players who was going to help us turn around our defense regardless of what position he played. 3-4 DE, 4-3 DT; We paid him like he was talented enough to play any position on the DLine (in fact we somewhat expected it as well). Once we knew for sure we would run a 4-3 and added the amazing Mario Williams with the first overall pick, Weaver found out he would be a DE on run downs and a DT in nickel packages. It was a lot to ask, but he supposedly was talented enough to pull it off. After 3 seasons with Houston, it’s safe to say that it was too much to ask for him to play only one position. Weaver’s performance was never stellar or on par with what we expected, but the first season he was given some leeway because of the new system and lack of talent around him. After all he was supposedly our stud DL. However, after the 2007 and 2008 season when we kept adding talent on the DLine (Okoye) and saw players break out as well(Mario), Weaver’s performance stayed constantly on the low end. In fact, Weaver ended up with more interceptions in Houston than he did sacks. If that’s not sad enough, he had the same number of sacks in three seasons that Travis Johnson did: one. It’s obvious how much Weaver hurt us in the long run both performance based and with his contract. He was a horrible fit for our defense and was one of the worst signings Houston has ever made.


3) Ahman Green, RB (2007)

Once it was made aware that Domanick Davis’ (now Williams) career had been officially cut short due to a tragic knee injury, we needed to pick up a viable starter. Lucky for us, Gary Kubiak came from the famous zone blocking scheme offense that could make late round draft picks look like stars. While it’s possible Houston could have done just that in the draft, Smith and Kubiak decided to go with a more veteran approach and signed Ahman Green. He would be re-united with his former coach Mike Sherman and was given a gracious contract that anticipated him being the consistent RB we lacked the year before. Everything started off well as Green started off the season averaging over 4 YPC and had at least 70 yards each game. However, he was injured in game 3 and never fully recovered that season. The next offseason, Houston drafted Steve Slaton to reduce Green’s workload and be a change of pace back for him. However, the tables were turned when Green proved injury prone once again and Slaton became the workhorse RB. Green was released this past offseason and while he had mediocre success, the expectations and contract highly outweighed the lackluster performance he delivered while in Houston. He could have been a solid starter in our offense, but couldn’t stay out of the training room and was paid too much based on previous success.


4) Robaire Smith, DL (2005)

Robaire was an interesting player with Houston. He was just as highly regarded as Wade and Morlon Greenwood during the 2005 offseason class that was easily our most expensive. Smith was brought in to help an aging DLine that had Gary Walker and Seth Payne and was paid incredibly well (6 years, $26 million). He was thought to be the new star on the line, although expectations weren’t as high as they were for someone like Wade because Smith was more of a luxury than a severe dependency. However, without that pressure and urgency he seemed to just blend in along the D Line and bring mediocrity. Smith wasn’t incredibly horrible in Houston, but we needed a lot more than average. He stuck around for two seasons before getting cut and moving on. The ironic thing is that Casserly felt Smith was so talented that he actually tried Smith at FB during the 2005 pre-season (the first of many warning signs of the season to come). Smith doesn’t land higher on the list because he actually played 2 seasons and was decent. However, he still was a disappointment and was incredibly over-paid like everyone on this list. Had he been injured, he definitely would have ended up higher on the list.


5) Rosevelt Colvin, LB (2008)

Colvin is more of a less remembered bad signing which has everything to do with how short of a tenure he had in Houston. The team wanted to get another pass rusher opposite Mario Williams and saw Colvin as the ideal 3rd down rusher to pair with him. He was signed just before training camp and was given special attention so he could catch up and make the switch from 3-4 OLB to 4-3 DE sooner rather than later. Because of his age, Colvin wasn’t given a monster or lengthy contract. Compared to the other contracts on this list, Colvin’s seems like it was meant for an AFL player. However, Colvin rounds out the list because it was completely guaranteed and he didn’t even make the team. He lasted only a few months before getting cut because of incredibly poor performance. What makes it so bad too is the fact that he couldn’t beat out such easy competition like Tim Bulman and Earl Cochran; 2 players that had struggled to make NFL rosters before landing in Houston. If Colvin would have played half the season and underperformed, he might have made it as an honorable mention (even with poor performances). But the fact that Houston basically gave him $1 million just to “try out” in the sense is what makes this a bad signing.


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I was very dissapointed in Mike Flanagan, Center Green Bay to go along with Ahman Green. that whole Sherman/GB connection yeild was poor! having no center/rb set this franchise back two years alone.

so far this pre-season Cato June & Dan Orlovsky have been a dissapointment. Still hoping for the best from Antonio Smith but if signing him for 35 million or whatever is somehow related to Dunta Robinson offer sheet of 23 million that's not cool either
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I was very dissapointed in Mike Flanagan, Center Green Bay to go along with Ahman Green. that whole Sherman/GB connection yeild was poor! having no center/rb set this franchise back two years alone.

so far this pre-season Cato June & Dan Orlovsky have been a dissapointment. Still hoping for the best from Antonio Smith but if signing him for 35 million or whatever is somehow related to Dunta Robinson offer sheet of 23 million that's not cool either
I'd almost forgotten about Flabbygan. That dude was a blubbery shell of what he was in Green Bay when he came here.

I still have faith in Dan O. He seems similar to Sage with periodic brain flatulence, but young enough to be taught.

I'd have to go with Weaver due to the price we paid to get him.
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some honorable mentions...

Kevin Mitchell...he was supposed to be our edge rusher and played more like our edge trimmer.

Robaire Smith - a guy the Titans didn't want, and we all found out why.

Eric Moulds - I saw offensive linemen leaner than him while he was here. I would look up and try to figure out who that TE was rumbling down field, unable to get open...then he'd slowly turn around and I'd see that it was only Mouldy.
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I don't know that Colvin deserves to be a top 5, but in rebuttal to Dan B. and others' points, the real sticking point was that they paid him a million just to try out. That was it. A million bucks isn't much in the NFL, so it isn't even the money, it's just that they basically guaranteed him money to try out. And it was when he couldn't even find another gig elsewhere.
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