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Old 08-22-2009   #1
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Default New coach, couple new players, same old defense ....

Cushions at the corners, soft against the run up the gut, no effective blitzing, and giving it up in the RZ.

At least it's preseason.
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Still can't get over the hump from 'Terrible' to 'Not completely embarrassing'.
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Default Re: New coach, couple new players, same old defense ....

Its preseason
Our best DBs aren't on the field
Our starting S lb is hurt
We are going against last years overall #1 offense

Its preseason

Lets not get over excited already
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Something tells me we are running a very vanilla defense. I just can't and won't believe the blitz packages we have run are going to be the same ones we run in the regular season. I really don't believe this is the "same old defense".
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Its preseason
Our best DBs aren't on the field
Our starting S lb is hurt
We are going against last years overall #1 offense

Its preseason

Lets not get over excited already
Exactly right. We posted at about the same time. Add your post to mine and you have the perfect post on the matter.
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Something tells me we are running a very vanilla defense. I just can't and won't believe the blitz packages we have run are going to be the same ones we run in the regular season. I really don't believe this is the "same old defense".
Vanilla or not, those guys in the middle are just getting beat.
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Its preseason
Our best DBs aren't on the field
Our starting S lb is hurt
We are going against last years overall #1 offense

Its preseason

Lets not get over excited already
I don't even care about the passing plays, there was no excuse for the rushing defense tonight. The Saints aren't even a running team and we allowed them to truck right over us.
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move on now, nothing to see here, keep moving
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Default Re: New coach, couple new players, same old defense ....

Remember that you are going against the Saints who have #1 offense in the NFL.
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Remember that you are going against the Saints who have #1 offense in the NFL.
What was their rushing offense like........again I don't give a crap about the passing plays. That's NOT why I'm upset. We have to play against the Titans 2x a year....they are going to hang 250+ rushing yards on us if we go out there and play like we did tonight.

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Okay.....that last play was just embarrassing. That's exactly what I'm talking about. We're getting gashed all night long.

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Default Re: New coach, couple new players, same old defense ....

Have any of our DBs laid a finger on the football?
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Vanilla or not, those guys in the middle are just getting beat.
Can't argue with that after that last drive.
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Default Re: New coach, couple new players, same old defense ....

Bush has nothing to gain from showing his hand and doing anything special but thats no excuse for the utter lack of execution

This defense needs Cushing more than we thought
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Bush has nothing to gain from showing his hand and doing anything special but thats no excuse for the utter lack of execution

This defense needs Cushing more than we thought
I don't expect to see any exotic blitz schemes or fancy stunts or unusual coverages. I would like to see the corners up tight to jam at the line and see how they handle it. I'd like to see the line beat their man and stop a run up the middle. I'd like to see players recognizing the situation and covering correctly. The scheme can be adjusted later.
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Yeah, what happened tonight doesn't have anything to do with trying to hide a scheme, but simply a lack of gap discipline. Not only could I not find our DTs anywhere near a play, but our LBs were missing as well. The worst defensive performance I've seen in a while.....and being a fan of this team, that's saying something.
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Yeah, what happened tonight doesn't have anything to do with trying to hide a scheme, but simply a lack of gap discipline. Not only could I not find our DTs anywhere near a play, but our LBs were missing as well. The worst defensive performance I've seen in a while.....and being a fan of this team, that's saying something.
Yep it was very disappointing I don't take many positives away from this game. I guess coming out healthy is the only thing to show for it tonight.
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Default Re: New coach, couple new players, same old defense ....

I'm sorry no matter what scheme you run, when the other teams offensive line is moving you back 2-3 years per play you aren't going to be successful. If we are not successful up front we might as well forget it, people will run the ball on us and then throw the deep pass over the top cause we have to start creeping our safeties up.

The front DL is still horrible.
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I'm sorry no matter what scheme you run, when the other teams offensive line is moving you back 2-3 years per play you aren't going to be successful. If we are not successful up front we might as well forget it, people will run the ball on us and then throw the deep pass over the top cause we have to start creeping our safeties up.

The front DL is still horrible.
nothing that a couple of more first round picks can't fix right? gotta love it when 2 first round DT's in a 3 year span finally pay off.
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