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View Poll Results: Should D.D remain the starting RB ?
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Old 02-08-2005   #21
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The downside of it taking longer for a RB to mature is RBs typically have shorter careers. But he also didn't play a whole lot of RB in college or even the past 2 years because of other injuries so maybe once he gets it together, he can make an impact longer than most RBs currently in the league..
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I still think it is a possiblity. For instance, it took Kevin Greene 4 years to record his 17th NFL regular season sack. He went on to many Pro Bowls, and multiple double digit sack years after his 3 year learning period. Some guys take longer to mature than others.

oh i agree with you, its just him staying healthy that worries me, i mean he has yet to prove he can stay healthy, and seems a lot less durable than D.D !
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so your telling me that D.D isnt good at making people miss ? Cause from what i see he is actually really good at fooling defenders and picking up extra yardage !
yes... what I see with DD is that he will make contact and break a tackle or two, but I can't remember him making someone miss and be gone... little difference between DD and say a Marshal Faulk .... or even compare AJ making someone miss and DD making someone miss.. DD is solid... AJ is a playmaker
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so your telling me when he catches a pass out in the flats, and some how seems to get by the linebackers that he didnt make them miss, cause i'm sure its not his "speed" that got him by them !
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what I am saying is it is funny how everyone justs hammers Wells for not being good, and DD is really good.. yet wells averaged .3 yards less a carry than DD and 1.4 yards a catch less than DD.

To me When AJ gets the ball, I know he has the ability to break it open, on DD to break one all the stars and planets have to align right. (i.e. Tennessee game).. Don't get me wrong, I like DD, but I see him as a solid RB and more of a 3rd down back.
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Personally, I think Wells should get more time. When he is asked to step up, he really brings it.
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what I am saying is it is funny how everyone justs hammers Wells for not being good, and DD is really good.. yet wells averaged .3 yards less a carry than DD and 1.4 yards a catch less than DD.
What is funny to me is Wells had two seasons where he showed nothing and then had a couple of good games and folks start to think he is the second coming while DD has had two good seasons with a few off games and most of the folks that post about him are making up ways to come up with derogatory stuff like empty yards, we lose when he is in the game, he can't out run anyone, he never gets runs over 20 yds, he can't break tackles, he can't make people miss, etc.
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Wells is a marginal backup. DD is a solid starter, but IMO is better suited to be a backup. Hollings is just a step up from Joppru in terms of his contributions to the team to date. I don't think we have truly seen Hollings or Joppru yet. We may never see them do anything either. I hope that we get more clarity on those two guys this season, for better or worse. This is the season each needs to contribute or we should let them go.

I think the team needs to either sign a FA RB or draft one in the first 4 rounds (probably 3rd or 4th).
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What is funny to me is Wells had two seasons where he showed nothing and then had a couple of good games and folks start to think he is the second coming while DD has had two good seasons with a few off games and most of the folks that post about him are making up ways to come up with derogatory stuff like empty yards, we lose when he is in the game, he can't out run anyone, he never gets runs over 20 yds, he can't break tackles, he can't make people miss, etc.
in all fairness compare the offensive line from 2002 to now
that is what I am saying.. Wells ran with the same offensive line as DD this season and their averages are about the same

and exactly.. Wells have 2 good games and yes people was saying that he is the 2nd coming of DD ..I am just pointing out the different viewpoints on the 2 runners
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Wells is a marginal backup. DD is a solid starter, but IMO is better suited to be a backup. Hollings is just a step up from Joppru in terms of his contributions to the team to date. I don't think we have truly seen Hollings or Joppru yet. We may never see them do anything either. I hope that we get more clarity on those two guys this season, for better or worse. This is the season each needs to contribute or we should let them go.

I think the team needs to either sign a FA RB or draft one in the first 4 rounds (probably 3rd or 4th).
I totally agree. We need another RB or Hollings needs to prove he can do it. DD is solid but not spectacular
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in all fairness compare the offensive line from 2002 to now
that is what I am saying.. Wells ran with the same offensive line as DD this season and their averages are about the same
True, but in all fairness Wells' motivation of having been benched is also a big reason for the improvement. He displayed more bad running traits in 2002 regardless of the line than DD has ever thought about showing--geez in 2002 Wells almost put on a grass skirt and danced a hula behind the line before passing out as soon as the Mai Tai guy came around. He ran much better last year though.

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and exactly.. Wells have 2 good games and yes people was saying that he is the 2nd coming of DD ..I am just pointing out the different viewpoints on the 2 runners
Saying kind of the same thing from differenct angles looks like. Both backs need to be judged on the same scale.
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seeing Wells in run before this year, he always looked shellshocked, yet running this year, I saw improvement, but he still doesn't dish out the punishment for the size of body he has.. DD dishes out more punishment IMO
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seeing Wells in run before this year, he always looked shellshocked, yet running this year, I saw improvement, but he still doesn't dish out the punishment for the size of body he has.. DD dishes out more punishment IMO

very true, even though D.D doesnt have great size, he still has a lot of power and the ability to run over defenders, and he is also very hard to tackle. Wells seems to go down a lot easier than Davis IMO !
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It seems like DD is more than a third back but seems to need a more capable backup. Since only 3 running backs are kept on the roster, won't there be some trade value for J Wells?
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How can anyone in their right mind see DD as anything other than a bonifide NFL starting RB?I mean what else does he have to do?The guy is going into his third year having back to back 1000 yd seasons,he is an excellant reciever,elusive,quick and strong.Best of all he,s just geting started.
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How can anyone in their right mind see DD as anything other than a bonifide NFL starting RB?I mean what else does he have to do?The guy is going into his third year having back to back 1000 yd seasons,he is an excellant reciever,elusive,quick and strong.Best of all he,s just geting started.
The only problem I have with DD being our long-term starter is the durability issue. He has all the tools to be our starter if he can stay healthy & keep his fumble problems behind him.
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right coach Jim

I like DD and he is solid.. I'll be ok with him being our started next season if we dont' pick up someone else.
maybe I am wrong (and again I am not bashing DD) but teams know that they are better off letting DD keep the ball than rotate over and leave AJ one on one. Aj will hurt a defense. That is why complaints are made week after week about the playcalling of why we aren't throwing deep, why ,when we pass, we dump it to DD in the flat.Teams know to try to keep the ball out of AJ's hands

maybe I am way off base, but that is what I see.
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I am in shocked.... by this thread...

you guys will be lucky if your replacement will be half as good as DD.

1) Pitts dint know WTF he was doing with the zone. He play G like a LT still, he has lots to learn.
2) Wiegert Was Injured most of the time
3) Mckinney cant move people, though he does move well downfield. I hope he gest stronger or David Baas will be our starter come opening nite.

Only thing I can add to this is the o-line play, is also a function of Carrs problems. DD is a very good back. I have always said though he is not a "twenty-five" touches a game back.
Pushing DD to twenty plus touches a game will inveribly lead to streaches of games without him in the line up. And currently, the o-line is not strong enough yet to carry the weight of his loss through those streches. I beilieve though he will be the starting RB in the Texans first playoff game.
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Let me clarify. I didn't say DD was bad or needs replaced - I just said that I think Wells deserves more PT. His intensity on special teams and success last year given his limited chances has earned him some more carries. I think using him more even when Davis isn't hurt would be a nice change up.

It is interesting to watch Wells on special teams, especially if you compare his attitude with that of Mack's pouting the previous year when Davis became the starter.
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It seems like DD is more than a third back but seems to need a more capable backup. Since only 3 running backs are kept on the roster, won't there be some trade value for J Wells?
Wells is hardly holding on to a roster slot. What makes you think anyone wants to trade for him?
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