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Old 08-10-2009   #141
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I just don't understand how one could blame Smith or the FO in this situation if you believe that the player is overvaluing and asking for more money than he's worth. How can you have it both ways here?

This just smells like another one of those "players are sacred and can do no wrong and the FO can do no right" blame games.
There is more than one player having trouble negotiating with Smith. Not understanding how BOTH sides of a negotiation can share the blame when things aren't working out "just smells like another one of those "FO is sacred and can do no wrong and the players can do no right" blame games."
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Old 08-11-2009   #142
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There is more than one player having trouble negotiating with Smith. Not understanding how BOTH sides of a negotiation can share the blame when things aren't working out "just smells like another one of those "FO is sacred and can do no wrong and the players can do no right" blame games."
Well, if Charlie Casserly were still here, Dunta would be in camp right now, with a big shit-eatin grin on his face.

You see what's wrong with that picture?

I kinda understand if Rick Smith is being a little overly cautious right now. He inherited a really bad football team, and what's worse, he inherited a really bad football team in salary-cap hell, with dead money that took him 3 years to get out from underneath of.

So, if he's keeping that in mind when negotiating future contracts with players, well, I can't say as I blame him.
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This conflict seems to have gotten to the point of "No-Return". The Texans should agree not to franchise him next year and trade him for something by trade deadline. If he is having a "Pro-Bowl" type season by the trade deadline, well we can keep him if no offers stick out there.

Don't get me wrong, I like Dunta, but if he is disgruntled........we may be spending too much time trying to salvage something that can't be fixed. He's under contract this year and we need to get him on the field asap for this year's team.......

For now Rick.......Get Owen and Demeco locked up!
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Hmmmmmm is it me or is the above posters SN and sign slightly offensive.
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Well, if Charlie Casserly were still here, Dunta would be in camp right now, with a big shit-eatin grin on his face.

You see what's wrong with that picture?

I kinda understand if Rick Smith is being a little overly cautious right now. He inherited a really bad football team, and what's worse, he inherited a really bad football team in salary-cap hell, with dead money that took him 3 years to get out from underneath of.

So, if he's keeping that in mind when negotiating future contracts with players, well, I can't say as I blame him.
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Well, if Charlie Casserly were still here, Dunta would be in camp right now, with a big shit-eatin grin on his face.

You see what's wrong with that picture?

I kinda understand if Rick Smith is being a little overly cautious right now. He inherited a really bad football team, and what's worse, he inherited a really bad football team in salary-cap hell, with dead money that took him 3 years to get out from underneath of.

So, if he's keeping that in mind when negotiating future contracts with players, well, I can't say as I blame him.
The contract part of it has been over with for a while...

My minor gripe with Rick Smith is the fact that he won't budge as far as agreeing not to franchise him next year...

Forget the money...All he has to do is agree not to franchise him next year...

I'm not understanding why he won't atleast meet Dunta to that point....
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Hmmmmmm is it me or is the above posters SN and sign slightly offensive.
It did not offend me. I actually had to look it up since I had not heard that term before.
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It did not offend me. I actually had to look it up since I had not heard that term before.
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Old 08-11-2009   #149
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Did you really??? Not really surprised though....

The coon caricature is one of the most insulting of all anti-Black caricatures. The name itself, an abbreviation of raccoon, is dehumanizing. As with Sambo, the coon was portrayed as a lazy, easily frightened, chronically idle, inarticulate, buffoon.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...%20ass%20nigga

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On the other hand, "coon ass" is used by Texans to refer to people from Louisiana regardless of race. So, this guy might not mean anything racial in his name; he may be referring to his place of birth.
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On the other hand, "coon ass" is used by Texans to refer to people from Louisiana regardless of race. So, this guy might not mean anything racial in his name; he may be referring to his place of birth.
Thanks...I am not a Texan or from Louisiana. Hopefully, the OP is referring to his place of birth.
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Forget the money...All he has to do is agree not to franchise him next year...

I'm not understanding why he won't atleast meet Dunta to that point....
There have been numerous posts regarding setting a precedent for future negotiations and that would be the main reason most likely.
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The contract part of it has been over with for a while...

My minor gripe with Rick Smith is the fact that he won't budge as far as agreeing not to franchise him next year...

Forget the money...All he has to do is agree not to franchise him next year...

I'm not understanding why he won't atleast meet Dunta to that point....
Referring back to TC's blog in the Chron, given all the Pro-Bowl level players who've signed franchise tenders with no agreement not to re-franchise, what makes you believe the Texans should agree to his request/demand? What makes Dunta worth doing this for, when players like Peppers, Asomugha, and Lance Briggs haven't needed (or at least haven't gotten) it?
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Thanks...I am not a Texan or from Louisiana. Hopefully, the OP is referring to his place of birth.
Unfortunately, I was born in Louisiana.
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Thanks...I am not a Texan or from Louisiana. Hopefully, the OP is referring to his place of birth.
Coonass, Swamp runner, ect....pretty much anyone from south LA.

Kinda like if your from East Texas your a truck driven Hillbilly Redneck.

Its all in fun.
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Unfortunately, I was born in Louisiana.
and now you live in Dallas. Your battin an O'fer.
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Coonass is anyone from La who is not a true Cajun ... I was born in Luling La but I am not a Cajun.
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and now you live in Dallas. Your battin an O'fer.
I lived in Houston from 3 until 26. It's my hometown. I've lived in 13 different places in the intervening 21 years.

I'll get back home some day.
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I lived in Houston from 3 until 26. It's my hometown. I've lived in 13 different places in the intervening 21 years.

I'll get back home some day.
Well hurry up and get back.
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The contract part of it has been over with for a while...

My minor gripe with Rick Smith is the fact that he won't budge as far as agreeing not to franchise him next year...

Forget the money...All he has to do is agree not to franchise him next year...

I'm not understanding why he won't atleast meet Dunta to that point....
So you want to let one of your better players leave with no compensation for the team? Give Dunta the freedom and he is gone and we have nothing to show for it.

Personally if he does not come in when two-a-days are over, then I am giving his agent permission to find a trade. And I think Dunta will be shocked when teams are not lining up to pay him $10M this season. Especially as we get closer to real games.
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Unfortunately, I was born in Louisiana.
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