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Old 07-31-2009   #1
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"It's a bad message when you look at it because you have top guys on the team not getting deals," Ryans said. "If they want to reward me, they'll reward me. If not, there are other teams out there that'll like to. I can't make them give me the deal."
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LOL, we're going to have replacement players in here soon!
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It's a good thing for the Texans Dre got extended when he did and missed out on all this. He'd have probably bolted when the chance came if he was treated in a similar manner.
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Default Re: DeMeco not happy either

OD might be a little more expendable for us in the future with our depth at TE right now, but we really cannot afford to lose Demeco. Lock him up and give him the money he deserves.
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I think Demeco should get a deal though. A pretty good one that's within reason though. Demeco's been a very good player and should be for a very long time. He's only going to be in his 4th year and it would be nice to have our MLB for a long time.
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I think the front office is sending a message that 8-8 last year was NOT acceptable and you don't reward players for underachieving
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Default Re: DeMeco not happy either

WTH is the FO doing? How hard is to sign your top performers?
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It's a good thing for the Texans Dre got extended when he did and missed out on all this. He'd have probably bolted when the chance came if he was treated in a similar manner.
I think AJ could almost name his price, especially this offseason after his 2008year. The only other player that perhaps would get that treatment is Mario, though I'm surprised that DeMeco hasn't been resigned yet.
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Default Re: DeMeco not happy either

Crappy bottom-dwelling teams treat their good players like this on a regular basis. I hope this is not a trend that becomes the norm around here. Not a good sign to hear from one of our best players.

As far as OD is concerned, until someone else PROVES that he can fill his shoes, I think OD is The Man at TE.

Rick Smith is acting like we've got leverage. We don't. We are a perpetually mediocre to suck franchise, and until that changes with continuous winning seasons and playoff appears, we don't have the upper hand.
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I think the front office is sending a message that 8-8 last year was NOT acceptable and you don't reward players for underachieving
Coaching and the front office have some responsibility for the record too. It isb qually unacceptable for their job performance, right?
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Default Re: DeMeco not happy either

From what I hear the general consensus of the players is that they don't take care of "guys all ready here" and give away funny money to FA's like Jaques Reeves and Antonio Smith. Guys I know that have moved on to other teams say the Texans FO is a quiet joke around the NFL. I don't think it all comes from a bad attitude towards them but they say the mentality in other locker rooms is totally diffrent than here in Houston.
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I think the front office is sending a message that 8-8 last year was NOT acceptable and you don't reward players for underachieving
This is a pretty tough statement to make but I think it is also a very true one. Noone has taken a second to look at that perspective.
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Default Re: DeMeco not happy either

I understand this all takes time and is probably more complicated of a process than I will ever know, but c'mon Rick!! We need our players 100% focusing on the season and not if they're getting hosed.
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Default Re: DeMeco not happy either

I like Demeco. He's a fine player.

Having said that, he's not a top tier player. He's in the second tier of MLBs in the league and certainly not irreplacable. Lets keep in mind that he's the 2nd best player on an average defense. If he resigns that is great but the world doesn't end if we have to draft a MLB next year.

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Crappy bottom-dwelling teams treat their good players like this on a regular basis. I hope this is not a trend that becomes the norm around here. Not a good sign to hear from one of our best players.

As far as OD is concerned, until someone else PROVES that he can fill his shoes, I think OD is The Man at TE.

Rick Smith is acting like we've got leverage. We don't. We are a perpetually mediocre to suck franchise, and until that changes with continuous winning seasons and playoff appears, we don't have the upper hand.
Perennial contenders like the Patriots also treat their top players like this outside the one or two chosen players deemed irreplaceable. I'm not condoning the Texans actions by any means, but maybe the coaches and FO think they can get by without certain disgruntled players.

I know i'd hate to find out if that's true going into a season like this where expectations are so high and we've yet to have a winning season.
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I think Meco and OD will get their deals. While they would love to get paid now, they need to relaize that Rick Smith has been working on getting the players without contracts in (ie the rookies and DR). Cush will hopefully soon be signed. Smith can then turn his attention toward getting a new deal for meco and OD that is acceptable to them and cap friendly.
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From what I hear the general consensus of the players is that they don't take care of "guys all ready here" and give away funny money to FA's like Jaques Reeves and Antonio Smith. Guys I know that have moved on to other teams say the Texans FO is a quiet joke around the NFL. I don't think it all comes from a bad attitude towards them but they say the mentality in other locker rooms is totally diffrent than here in Houston.
The current FO, the previous one or both? No disrespect to the guys you know that have moved on but I honestly cannot think of a player we have lost to another team that I was really upset about. Now if we lose a couple of the guys currently unhappy about their situations my view on this could change pretty quickly.
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Let me call the Waaambulance for these guys. How do they make it on that salary?
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I think AJ could almost name his price, especially this offseason after his 2008year. The only other player that perhaps would get that treatment is Mario, though I'm surprised that DeMeco hasn't been resigned yet.
I don't know. If he hadn't signed the extension and his original contract was running out, and then he publicly held out in "this economy", I think a segment of this board would talk about his greed, dropped passes, injuries, and the depth behind him to show he should be cut.
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Crappy bottom-dwelling teams treat their good players like this on a regular basis. I hope this is not a trend that becomes the norm around here. Not a good sign to hear from one of our best players.

As far as OD is concerned, until someone else PROVES that he can fill his shoes, I think OD is The Man at TE.

Rick Smith is acting like we've got leverage. We don't. We are a perpetually mediocre to suck franchise, and until that changes with continuous winning seasons and playoff appears, we don't have the upper hand.

My bigest concern is that every player seem to get some version of pissed which may go to how the Texans (specifically Rick Smith) are handling things which are pretty much the course of normal NFL business. There are always one or two who get mad, but seems like everybody comes away with some sort of distate in his mouth here.

Looking at this from Texans' management side, even if these players have performed well, I am not sure if it is good business (or football) to have 6 or 7 guys paid at the top 5 or their positions when the organization has never even made the playoffs much less won a playoff game.

There is a line of rewarding players for good performance and making players truly earn it. Think the Texans are in the process of trying to figure it out the balance.
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