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Old 02-03-2005   #41
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That's just my point. Peek didn't show the knowledge for the game and for his assignments in the game when he did get playing time. Brady excelled when given the chance to play. Peek is a talented player, and he brings alot of energy, but his progression as a LB does not mirror Tom Brady's progression as a QB. Besides Brady had to show something in practice for him to make the squad as a 3rd string QB as a rookie. Otherwise he would have likely ended up on the practice squad or released like most other 6th Round QBs.

Maybe rookie year peek and brady's progression were different, but brady was always a QB, throwing the ball doesnt change. Peek switched positions so he should not have started his rookie year at all, probably not the beginning of this past season either. However, saying that when in the games this year he made so many more mistakes than brady did in his first playing time may be a stretch. He may have had a play or two that were bad but overall this season Peek played very well in the game, and in all sides of his play, maybe a few bad run plays but none ever broke into anything big, he never gave up a reception but did have and INT, and his pass rush is fine. I also think that in brady's first campaign as a starter he had similar results to Big Ben this season in that he did well, maybe not ridiculous Marino like numbers, but he also was not a bum who threw 100 INTs. I think that if peek played a lot he would show some things that people wouldnt expect in terms of great play, but we will see.
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Only 3 sacks? They guy hardly gets chances to play. This season he at least got some more time, and he had numerous QB pressures and knock downs. he will get his sacks when he gets his chance to play. Babin had 4 sacks but his total playing time this year has been more than peeks entire career by a pretty significant difference. Peek has started maybe 4 or 5 games total, Babin started 16. Theres the difference in sacks.
But Peek has 2 seasons under his belt and Babin 1 so the plays played probably level out cause Peek played quite a lot his rookie year...
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WAS HE WORTH ALL THE PICKS WE TRADED TO OUR ARCHRIVAL IN OUR DIVISION??????

the answer to me is no...not because of babin's ability or stats...but because we let our rival get stronger for years to come...did anyone see randy starks and the year he had...antwon odom will eventually make a steller defensive end and ben troupe will be a solid pass catching TE for years to come...was babin worth giving our rival all of that no...sorry but no one in this league is...not to this fan
I hate that as a reason not to like the deal. So what if your division rival gets some players. The Texans believed they got the better end of the deal or they wouldnt of made the trade. Capers believes Babin can be a Kevin Greene and I'd take Kevin Greene over Troupe, Odom and Starks...
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Maybe rookie year peek and brady's progression were different, but brady was always a QB, throwing the ball doesnt change. Peek switched positions so he should not have started his rookie year at all, probably not the beginning of this past season either. However, saying that when in the games this year he made so many more mistakes than brady did in his first playing time may be a stretch. He may have had a play or two that were bad but overall this season Peek played very well in the game, and in all sides of his play, maybe a few bad run plays but none ever broke into anything big, he never gave up a reception but did have and INT, and his pass rush is fine. I also think that in brady's first campaign as a starter he had similar results to Big Ben this season in that he did well, maybe not ridiculous Marino like numbers, but he also was not a bum who threw 100 INTs. I think that if peek played a lot he would show some things that people wouldnt expect in terms of great play, but we will see.
As I said before Brady's best attribute from when he stepped in for Bledsoe, and to this very day has been his ability to limit his mistakes. He doesn't turn the ball over very often. I never claimed that Brady had huge statistics. Just like I don't think a OLB has to have huge sack numbers to be a good OLB. Peek excells in every aspect of the game except for when it comes to keeping his head in the game. I believe thats why many people are so frustrated with him at times because we see those glimpses of how great a defensive force he could be if he had his head on straight the whole game. The coaches limited Peek's playing time for a reason. He made too many mistakes for their liking while he was in there. That doesn't mean he's a bad player, but it means he needs more work. I think we've all seen him steadily improve in his time here with the Texans. If Brady had thrown one too many INT for Bellicheck's liking he would've been riding the pine while another QB got a shot at showing his stuff. The fact is that Brady didn't make many mistakes when he got his chance to get on the field in his 2nd season with the Pats. Peek has made mistakes, and that's why he was a situational pass rusher this year more often than being a starter. Next year I hope it's a very different story, and Peek will continue his improvement and crack the starting lineup.
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ya'll wanna talk about being out of position...one of the jobs the OLB's have in the 3-4 defense as they are the outside pass rush most of the time is that they also have contain...which means unless it is obvious that they can get there they are not...i'll repeat ARE NOT supposed to take a pass rush lane inside the tackles...how many freakin times this year did babin try to go inside the tackles when it was obvious he had the outside contain...it drove me nuts all season...peek plays with a more high powered motor...if he's out of position it's no worse than babin...as for practice i don't know about that...all i know is what i saw during the season...peek making plays when plays needed to be made...babin looking lost
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My point with the Brady comparison was that he didnt make mistakes, AND that Peek really wasnt out of position this year. There were only few plays were he didnt have great run contain but yet that strung the paly out for others to make a play. And in terms of his head not on straight? Playing with emotion is not a bad thing, he had one personal foul this season against the bears, and the game was over with basically. The arguments on him are all based on rookie season problems. These problems were mostly eliminated this year. In terms of practice, in season practice is almost nonexistant. That is why starters stay starters, because not much changes in practice during the season. I just want to point out that the two games that peek started in this season because of the nickle defense being played mostly, they won. THey also didnt give up much in terms of rushing yards. Just an interesting fact.
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Peek is a high risk high reward type player . I think its better to have a guy who revs to high as opposed to one you have to fire up. Peek is a player who should get his chance next season .
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