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Old 06-29-2009   #1
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AFC South Blogger Paul Kularshky? addresses a mistake that he made earlier when he said Fitzgerald was faster than Johnson, and leads to a comparison of the two receivers head to head.

Really interesting how he breaks it down

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcsouth/...-on-speed.html

I feel there are couple flaws in the analysis from the scout in part because I believe part of the reason he gives Fitzgerald the "slight edge" is because of his red zone production, but I don't think that is a fair comparison because our play calling last year didn't utilize Johnson in the redzone on fade routes, which he proved that he has no problem dominating on if given a chance.

With Shanahan taking over playcalling duties I think you are going to see alot more of the fade in the endzone. Kubiak said it himself he outsmarted himself in the redzone. Do what works throw it up for Andre.

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Default Re: Andre Johnson v. Larry Fitzgerald - ESPN Scout Addresses

I'll go ahead and end this nonsense. Andre Johnson is the best WR in the game. Fitzgerald is competing with Moss for second place. And that is coming from a completely unbiased viewpoint...
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Default Re: Andre Johnson v. Larry Fitzgerald - ESPN Scout Addresses

For me, it's all about AJ's ability to bring it down in traffic. I don't think there's anyone better at that. Lots of WRs are fast. Lots of WRs have great hands. Finding guys who have both of those PLUS the hand strength and body control to consistently bring it down in traffic - AND not have that size and strength limit his ability to also be a deep threat? Pssshh please - Nobody's better.
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Default Re: Andre Johnson v. Larry Fitzgerald - ESPN Scout Addresses

I think the only reason AJ continues to lose this comparison is production in big games because essentially we haven't played in one yet. Fitz gets that buzz off of the Super Bowl run and nothing AJ can do will top that until he has a big game in a big game. It's simply exposure. Everyone here knows what he can do. Most of the talking heads know what we've got here with AJ. He just needs that "moment" to light it all up.
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For me, it's all about AJ's ability to bring it down in traffic. I don't think there's anyone better at that. Lots of WRs are fast. Lots of WRs have great hands. Finding guys who have both of those PLUS the hand strength and body control to consistently bring it down in traffic - AND not have that size and strength limit his ability to also be a deep threat? Pssshh please - Nobody's better.
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For me, it's all about AJ's ability to bring it down in traffic. I don't think there's anyone better at that. Lots of WRs are fast. Lots of WRs have great hands. Finding guys who have both of those PLUS the hand strength and body control to consistently bring it down in traffic - AND not have that size and strength limit his ability to also be a deep threat? Pssshh please - Nobody's better.
That and the fact I saw AJ carry 2 defenders on his back about 8 or 9 yards for a touchdown last season (I think it was the Bengal game?). I can't remember seeing any other WR display that kind of strength.
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Default Re: Andre Johnson v. Larry Fitzgerald - ESPN Scout Addresses

I think they're both badasses. I think Fitz might have the better hands, but only by a very slim margin.
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Default Re: Andre Johnson v. Larry Fitzgerald - ESPN Scout Addresses

Yeah, I think thats one thing that Fitz has over AJ.... just by the slimmest of margins tho. Fitz is def. a master at shielding himself between the defender and the ball, and always seems to come down with a crazy catch in traffic.
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Default Re: Andre Johnson v. Larry Fitzgerald - ESPN Scout Addresses

I think Fitz has more ups than Andre, too, but I've seen AJ go high.
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Default Re: Andre Johnson v. Larry Fitzgerald - ESPN Scout Addresses

YOu could go with either one and you wouldn't be wrong. Fitz has better career numbers though, but I think anyone picking either or would be right.
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Default Re: Andre Johnson v. Larry Fitzgerald - ESPN Scout Addresses

I'm of the mind that you cant go wring with either of them.

Flip a coin.

1a and 1b.

Every other team in the league would go crazy to get either of them.
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Default Re: Andre Johnson v. Larry Fitzgerald - ESPN Scout Addresses

Fitzgerald is a master of body control in space; Andre is a physical, power receiver with elite straight line speed. Both are @ the top of their games.
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Default Re: Andre Johnson v. Larry Fitzgerald - ESPN Scout Addresses

If you never make it to the playoffs the rest of the nation only 'really' sees you when you play them. Both are great receivers but Fits went to the SB last season and had more in your face exposure. AJ will always get second fiddle to equally outstanding wr's if we can't ever be better than a .500 team.
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is this a Texans board or what? Johnson makes Fitz look like a schmuck. there is no other way to put it. if they went head to head in a skills competition AJ would take every event, even the height and weight measurements (he'd grow 2 inches the day before competition). AJ IS GOD PEOPLE! get used to it.

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I think Larry is one of the best WR's in the game. But the truth is that the spotlight of the playoffs and super bowl has magnified his skills and pumped up his ranking to the public.

Andre Johnson is THE BEST WR in the game. His blend of speed, power, and ability to catch any range and turn it into a big play shows that he is the best.

A few things about our boy AJ.

He is left-handed. And right-handed.

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its like the manning-brady debate. its a waste of time to say one or the other is better. they're 1a & 1b. im just glad we have one of them
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For me, it's all about AJ's ability to bring it down in traffic. I don't think there's anyone better at that. Lots of WRs are fast. Lots of WRs have great hands. Finding guys who have both of those PLUS the hand strength and body control to consistently bring it down in traffic - AND not have that size and strength limit his ability to also be a deep threat? Pssshh please - Nobody's better.
what the hell is this?...The hallmark of Fitzgerald's game is that he's got that freakishly uncanny ability to go up, get the ball at it's highest point & bring it down over defender(s)........... & all hands at that. His speed is also underrated; he's improved that since he's been n the league That was never more apparent than this past postseason when he pulled off on Polamalu & Townsend for that TD in the superbowl. AJ's a beast but Fitz does have the slight edge & it has next to nothing to do with exposure for me.

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what the hell is this?...The hallmark of Fitzgerald's game is that he's got that freakishly uncanny ability to go up, get the ball at it's highest point & bring it down over defender(s)........... & all hands at that.
That is a notable part of Fitz' game. Then again, it is also a notable part of AJ's. Just think of a couple 4th down or game saving plays on last drives of the games against Miami and TN (over Finnegan for one) last year.

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when he pulled off on Polamalu & Townsend for that TD in the superbowl.
Fitz is plenty fast, just not as fast as AJ. Not sure outrunning those two guys is the best example around.
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That is a notable part of Fitz' game. Then again, it is also a notable part of AJ's. Just think of a couple 4th down or game saving plays on last drives of the games against Miami and TN (over Finnegan for one) last year.



Fitz is plenty fast, just not as fast as AJ. Not sure outrunning those two guys is the best example around.
besides, their speed difference can be measured in arm lengths. If you guys watched the combine there isn't much difference in a 4.38 and a 4.43 (just using random numbers).
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That is a notable part of Fitz' game. Then again, it is also a notable part of AJ's. Just think of a couple 4th down or game saving plays on last drives of the games against Miami and TN (over Finnegan for one) last year.

For every 1 of those plays AJ makes Fitz makes 2. It's not a notable part...it is THE part of Fitz game that makes him so special. It's the same part that makes Randy Moss such a special WR & is the 2nd best attribute a WR can have next to great hands.


Fitz is plenty fast, just not as fast as AJ. Not sure outrunning those two guys is the best example around.
Eh..maybe you're right & I agree, but he's not as slow as everyone thinks he is either.
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