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Old 06-19-2009   #1
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Default Johnson listed as 7th most irreplaceable player in NFL

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7. Andre Johnson, WR, Texans

We could just list the wide receivers whom Johnson has spent his career playing across from, but that doesn't quantify just how important Johnson's presence is to making the Texans' offense work. Instead, we'll look back to 2007, when Johnson was on the shelf for seven games. Their passing DVOA was 11th in the league with Johnson in the lineup and 19th without, but he had an even bigger impact on the running game; the Texans actually had the fifth-best rushing DVOA in football when Johnson was around, falling to 28th when he was injured. Think he keeps a safety or two occupied?
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Default Re: Johnson listed as 7th most irreplaceable player in NFL

I think he should be higher than 7th. IMO, only Manning and Brady are more irreplaceable.

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Default Re: Johnson listed as 7th most irreplaceable player in NFL

I don't think 7th is bad at all. I mean there are so many positions where there are great irreplaceable players on each team.

Troy Polumolu and Ed Reed are irreplaceable no question as safeties.

Mario and Jared Allen are irreplaceable as DE's.

Brady, Brees, and Manning are irreplaceable as QB's.

There are several irreplaceable O lineman.

This is hard to rank.
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Who ever thought AD was as good as AJ?
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Who ever thought AD was as good as AJ?
If you followed the board back then, there were quite a few. I can recall at least a few from the "All your eggs in one basket" thread as well

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If you followed the board back then, there were quite a few. I can recall at least a few from the "All your eggs in one basket" thread as well

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I've followed the board since before Andre Davis was ever here. I don't recall anyone ever saying AD is as good as AJ. Saying that he did a fine job in AJ's stead is not the same as saying he is as good as AJ. That's not to say some troll didn't make a silly statement like that. We've seen that. But, to act like that was some sort of prevelent idea is inaccruate.
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I think he should be higher than 7th. IMO, only Manning and Brady are more irreplaceable.

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i'm guessing he means the Texans logo thing, not the actual digits/letters.
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I've followed the board since before Andre Davis was ever here. I don't recall anyone ever saying AD is as good as AJ. Saying that he did a fine job in AJ's stead is not the same as saying he is as good as AJ. That's not to say some troll didn't make a silly statement like that. We've seen that. But, to act like that was some sort of prevelent idea is inaccruate.
Not sure why you are taking this quite so literally. I dont think anyone would ever say that the two are exactly equal--thats crazy. I was implying that I remember, and still see, some posts doubting AJ's irreplaceability because of Andre Davis' performance in during the 2007 season. Thats what this thread is about
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No, not the text - the plate.

I believe gtexan lives in Virginia or somewhere in that area. Might be hard to find one of those plates up there.
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I believe gtexan lives in Virginia or somewhere in that area. Might be hard to find one of those plates up there.
I do indeed! Maybe I should have included that in the photo...ok, changed it

Something sad happened to me only a short while after I got the plates.... someone actually asked me what the "Toxins" were.

We need more national media coverage...
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If you followed the board back then, there were quite a few. I can recall at least a few from the "All your eggs in one basket" thread as well

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gtexan need to improve your reading skills. The quote of mine said he did a fine job and he did. Never said he was AJ equal. The entire point of my thread was which one player could not be replaced and the team be successful. My choice was QB Matt Schaub. If AJ goes out this year, Aj has a decent replacement. Productivity not the same but does not immediately regulate team to "uh oh" status. Schaub goes out for season and we have a 2nd stringer with little more than potential (though I like him) and Rex Grossman that no other team wanted. Again, I never said AD= AJ.
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gtexan need to improve your reading skills. The quote of mine said he did a fine job and he did. Never said he was AJ equal. The entire point of my thread was which one player could not be replaced and the team be successful. My choice was QB Matt Schaub. If AJ goes out this year, Aj has a decent replacement. Productivity not the same but does not immediately regulate team to "uh oh" status. Schaub goes out for season and we have a 2nd stringer with little more than potential (though I like him) and Rex Grossman that no other team wanted. Again, I never said AD= AJ.
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gtexan need to improve your reading skills. The quote of mine said he did a fine job and he did. Never said he was AJ equal. The entire point of my thread was which one player could not be replaced and the team be successful. My choice was QB Matt Schaub. If AJ goes out this year, Aj has a decent replacement. Productivity not the same but does not immediately regulate team to "uh oh" status. Schaub goes out for season and we have a 2nd stringer with little more than potential (though I like him) and Rex Grossman that no other team wanted. Again, I never said AD= AJ.
Before flinging around insults to others reading skills, maybe you should check yours. I said just a few posts (5) above yours:

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Not sure why you are taking this quite so literally. I dont think anyone would ever say that the two are exactly equal--thats crazy. I was implying that I remember, and still see, some posts doubting AJ's irreplaceability because of Andre Davis' performance in during the 2007 season. Thats what this thread is about
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I would never ever want something to happen to AJ.

That being said, the Texans of 2007 are likely a little different than the Texans of today. Because of:

Another year for Schaub and rest of offense
Steve Slaton
Alex Gibbs

I hope to never have to find out how irreplaceable AJ is.
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I think that because of the offensive scheme we run we can get by with back up players in some spots more easily than other teams can.

I think all this irreplaceable stuff is just for arguments sake. AJ is a beast. I'll wait to quantify how much of a beast he til he retires.
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