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Old 06-02-2009   #1
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Football is at it's lowest....


David Carr and VY are the last two QB's on earth....

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I was thinking about VY's vs. David Carr's early careers' and VY's comments about going to another situation. IMHO, Vince Young was a better QB than David Carr was. David threw the ball a bit better, but the overall product IMHO was less than what VY brought to the table initially.

Personally, I'd go with VY. That said, I think that VY does have the ability to get his career back together...David got a few chances to redeem himself....I'm hoping that VY will get the opprotunity as well...
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Where is the third choice, syphylis?
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I think that's part of a package deal when you select sausage boi
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Where is the third choice, syphylis?
I just thought it was an interesting comparison since there were so many D.Carr supporters who felt like he was really a good QB trapped inside a bad QB's body.

Disclaimer: I'm not trying to make the case that VY is leaps and bounds better. But many felt like David had starting QB potential so I just wanted to kinda see how folks felt about him compared to VY because VY is pretty much universally talked about like the worst QB ever. Maybe some of the same one's that thought David was a "woulda, coulda, shoulda....if only".
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Sell the franchise or promote the towel boy
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neither...i'm picking myself. I can't be any worse than those 2.
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I just thought it was an interesting comparison since there were so many D.Carr supporters who felt like he was really a good QB trapped inside a bad QB's body.

Disclaimer: I'm not trying to make the case that VY is leaps and bounds better. But many felt like David had starting QB potential so I just wanted to kinda see how folks felt about him compared to VY because VY is pretty much universally talked about like the worst QB ever. Maybe some of the same one's that thought David was a "woulda, coulda, shoulda....if only".
I get it. I just think the two are about the same guy. One is a slacker(Carr), the other is a guy who believes his own hype so much he doesnt put in the work and feels he should be handed a job(VY). Both are losers who will not amount to much if they don't change something. So I vote C.
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I can't vote in this poll. I am abstaining from this selection process.

I stopped watching NFL football once before in 1996 and didn't pay much attention to it until 2002. I can do it again and if things got that bad I'd just walk away from this game for a while and follow Manchester United full time or something.
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Football is at it's lowest....


David Carr and VY are the last two QB's on earth....

Pick one.
That choice is as bad as figuring out what nut to cut-off. NEITHER!!
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Old 06-03-2009   #13
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I get it. I just think the two are about the same guy. One is a slacker(Carr), the other is a guy who believes his own hype so much he doesnt put in the work and feels he should be handed a job(VY). Both are losers who will not amount to much if they don't change something. So I vote C.
I've gotta disagree

Carr was not a slacker, what he was, was a guy who had priorities other than football. He worked hard when he was at the facility then went home and lived his life. He didn't live breath and die football.

Young just quit on his team and has no discernable quarterbacking skills.

I'd choose Carr in a heart beat.
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I just thought it was an interesting comparison since there were so many D.Carr supporters who felt like he was really a good QB trapped inside a bad QB's body.
I disagree. I think he was a bad QB trapped in a good QB's body. His entire problem was between the ears. Actually, VY's entire problem is between the ears, and with the recent comments, I'm seeing where that Wonderlic score of 6 is coming into play again.

I also think David Carr of 2002-mid '04 was a different QB than the DC we saw later. Early DC never quit - he went out there sack after sack after sack, he went out there with a busted up shoulder, and he kept on pushing. It's the one thing I'll always admire about the guy.

VY seems to be all about quit, on the other hand, when he isn't busy letting his prima donna attitude write checks his ass can't cash.
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I disagree. I think he was a bad QB trapped in a good QB's body. His entire problem was between the ears. Actually, VY's entire problem is between the ears, and with the recent comments, I'm seeing where that Wonderlic score of 6 is coming into play again.

I also think David Carr of 2002-mid '04 was a different QB than the DC we saw later. Early DC never quit - he went out there sack after sack after sack, he went out there with a busted up shoulder, and he kept on pushing. It's the one thing I'll always admire about the guy.

VY seems to be all about quit, on the other hand, when he isn't busy letting his prima donna attitude write checks his ass can't cash.
Completely agree. I'd take Carr over Young in a heartbeat just because of the continuous pounding Carr took due to our horrible line and his resilience to keep going out there and playing, even though he knew he was gonna get hit as many times as he did. If we could of had a discernible offensive line the first two years to allow him to acclimate to the NFL, I think he would of turned into a serviceable NFL QB.
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I would go full time Wildcat, and let Steve Slaton receive the snaps.
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If they are the last 2 QB's on earth, it's time to give up football.
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I've gotta disagree

Carr was not a slacker, what he was, was a guy who had priorities other than football. He worked hard when he was at the facility then went home and lived his life. He didn't live breath and die football.

Young just quit on his team and has no discernable quarterbacking skills.

I'd choose Carr in a heart beat.
Not putting in the extra work is what I conmsider a slacker. I thought Carr was gonna be elite till the end. He was athletic with a stron arm and accurate. VY had 2 of those traits but is WAY too full of himself.
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I disagree. I think he was a bad QB trapped in a good QB's body. His entire problem was between the ears. Actually, VY's entire problem is between the ears, and with the recent comments, I'm seeing where that Wonderlic score of 6 is coming into play again.

I also think David Carr of 2002-mid '04 was a different QB than the DC we saw later. Early DC never quit - he went out there sack after sack after sack, he went out there with a busted up shoulder, and he kept on pushing. It's the one thing I'll always admire about the guy.

VY seems to be all about quit, on the other hand, when he isn't busy letting his prima donna attitude write checks his ass can't cash.
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Completely agree. I'd take Carr over Young in a heartbeat just because of the continuous pounding Carr took due to our horrible line and his resilience to keep going out there and playing, even though he knew he was gonna get hit as many times as he did. If we could of had a discernible offensive line the first two years to allow him to acclimate to the NFL, I think he would of turned into a serviceable NFL QB.
From where I'm sitting, both of them are failures at this point...

Why they failed is not really as important to me as which one has the best chance of any inkling of future success...

And I agree that David was a tough guy. No doubt about that. That is one plus that he has going for him.
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VY. We already know what carr is like on this team.
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