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View Poll Results: Chemistry vs. Talent
Chemistry 27 72.97%
Talent 10 27.03%
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Old 05-11-2009   #1
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Default Chemistry Vs Talent

Interesting video on NFL network...

There is a debate on what is needed more to win championships. I for one go with chemistry, and i also feel that our team is based on chemistry rather then talent. I thought it would make for an interesting thread.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-networ...stry-vs-talent
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Old 05-12-2009   #2
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I point to the New England Patriots as my evidence for chemistry.

And T.O. as evidence of talent.

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Old 05-12-2009   #3
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I say Chemistry. You can have all the talent there is but if you don't play as a team and gel or like each other it ain't gonna work.
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I say Chemistry. You can have all the talent there is but if you don't play as a team and gel or like each other it ain't gonna work.
Thats exactly right, just look at the Cowboys. They have a ton of talent and piss it away every year. Not that that bothers me it just happens to be the perfect example.
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IMO, you need both, but chemistry becomes stronger as you win games. So, in the beginning I think it begins with more talent than chemistry. In the end, it takes both. They both go hand in hand on a team that is a consistant Super Bowl contender.

Talent + A few wins = Stronger chemistry

Stronger chemistry + The talent = Championship!
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Texans focus on character while trying to elevate talent = Connor Barwin
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I would say in the BIG picture, talent wins out over chemistry. For example: the patriots play the toronto arganaunts. The talent alone on the patriots would win the game for them a large majority of the time. That being said, when the competition is closer; say the giants vs the browns, team chemistry becomes a lot larger a factor when dealing with team success.
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Science classes or OT money.
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Give me talent over chemistry everday of the week.

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Talent.... THEN chemistry.
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Default Re: Chemistry Vs Talent

This is not an either/or answer. A baseline of both is needed. A very talented team needs less chemistry, but at least needs to trust that the other player will do thier job even if they don't like the person. I would argue if you have been on a team or worked in a company of any size, that you have had the person no one really liked, but everyone trusted they would do thier job. That is the low end.

On the other hand, a team with great chemistry, but not enough skill will still fall short. Chemistry can overcome some shortages in skill, but at the end of the day if a team has players that can do things that the other can't stop, working together well goes only so far. To win at the highest level in the NFL, the teams overall talent still probably needs to at least a 6/7 on a scale of 10.


Various mixes have worked, but the key is that a team can't be a 9 on area and a 2 in the other.
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Default Re: Chemistry Vs Talent

Wasn't in VanGundy that when asked about "talent", said "Talent? Eveyone in the league has talent!" I'll go with chemistry.
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Wasn't in VanGundy that when asked about "talent", said "Talent? Eveyone in the league has talent!" I'll go with chemistry.
That's probably why Van Gundy never won anything...
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That's probably why Van Gundy never won anything...
He's just mad that his brother's the one with the talent.



























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I think you have to have both. You can have a great chemistry but no talent and the chemistry will soon fall apart if you keep losing. If all you have is talent - well, lots of teams know about what happens with that.

First, you need some talent - maybe not great talent - but better than good. Then you need chemistry to develop. If you can manage that - you have a great team - and great coaches.
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CHEMISTRY! I have coached many championship teams who in no way had better talent than the eventual runner-ups. The better TEAM wins every time.

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Dallas Cowboys.....


As far as Van Gundy not winning anything; what talent did he have to coach other than Yao and McGrady? (I'll leave the jokes in the other forum). He had talent in New York, but guess what? They ran into a team that had both talent and chemistry.
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As far as Van Gundy not winning anything; what talent did he have to coach other than Yao and McGrady? (I'll leave the jokes in the other forum). He had talent in New York, but guess what? They ran into a team that had both talent and chemistry.
Exactly, I'd go to battle with JVG anyday.
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This video screams "offseason" to me. I don't blame the OP, but dang... its a long ~120 days until football season.
Who's the owner of that bodacious booty in your avatar.
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