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Old 05-08-2009   #1
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we're picked to win the afc south... we're not picked to win the afc south... we're a tough team... we're a soft team... none of these "experts" can make up their minds...
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However, he lacks command and a presence that’s essential in the starting quarterback. He doesn’t have an ability to make the team believe he’s “the man” and will hold the other players accountable. When a team doesn’t get its leadership and, to a large degree, its personality from the starting quarterback, it must have great leaders in other areas of the team to compensate.
Where does this information magically come from? I have heard several players talk about Matt's leadership such as getting down in Carolina, walking into the huddle and saying, "OK we got them right where we want them."
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Where does this information magically come from? I have heard several players talk about Matt's leadership such as getting down in Carolina, walking into the huddle and saying, "OK we got them right where we want them."
Swagger? Body language? Crystal ball?

I might consider that his injuries have hampered his leadership since "you can't lead from the training room", but that would be a marginal argument without something else to back it up.
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There's a lot of stuff in that article that I can't disagree with - but the stuff about Matt not being a leader is GARBAGE.
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Default Re: cold blooded... from the national football post

*Yawn* this goes along the same thinking when everyone but us KNEW mario was the wrong pick.

Tell em go play in traffic.
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I'd say Matt's leadership is arguably his strongest attribute. Look at the poise he showed in the games where we needed him to come up big in pressure situations, he's ice under pressure. That's a quality only a handful of quarterbacks in this league has.
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I'd say Matt's leadership is arguably his strongest attribute. Look at the poise he showed in the games where we needed him to come up big in pressure situations, he's ice under pressure. That's a quality only a handful of quarterbacks in this league has.
Yup - you think this offense has confidence in Matt to lead them down the field for a 4th quarter come from behind win? - I bet they do.
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Where does this information magically come from? I have heard several players talk about Matt's leadership such as getting down in Carolina, walking into the huddle and saying, "OK we got them right where we want them."
Yeah, Schaub has flaws, but he's a freakin leader.
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Default Re: cold blooded... from the national football post

Lombardi has never written anything good about the Texans, so why should he start now.
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Default Re: cold blooded... from the national football post

We watched our "Matt Schaub becomes a leader" moment when he came back from being injured last season and then led the team on that little 3-1 stretch at the end. I think everyone who was actually watching the Texans saw a different QB return from that Jared Allen cheap shot. I frankly thought he was probably going to come back shaky but he went into Green Bay and lit the place up.

This man doesn't know what he's talking about but in his defense neither does the guy he's making fun of for picking the Texans. They're both uninformed and basing their choices on the wrong reasons. Bowen is picking the Texans to try and make the Cinderella pick. If you're right then you can throw it in everyones faces when it happens and if you're wrong you pretend it never happened and nobody remembers you wrote that. The other guy is just as lazy. He's using the "Texans defense will suck because its always sucked" argument.
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As strongly as most on the team might feel that Schaub is a "leader," they undoubtedly worry, "freak accidents" or not, about his ability to stay on the field.
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Schaub not a leader? He must not have seen our Dolphin games the past 2 seasons or the Packers game
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Default Re: cold blooded... from the national football post

My main issue with the piece wasn't when he said Schaub "isn't a leader"...(even though that's crap). It's when he said...

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When a team doesn’t get its leadership and, to a large degree, its personality from the starting quarterback, it must have great leaders in other areas of the team to compensate. Unfortunately for the Texans, I don’t see leadership or inspiration coming from anyone on the offensive or defensive side of the ball
Okay, so even if we buy the load of crap opinion that Schaub isn't a leader.....we're also supposed to buy that Andre Johnson isn't a leader? Sorry, that's absolute CRAP.
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I agree with most of the posts here, Matt has proven to be a hell of a leader, this guy just doesn't know what he is talking about.

Kyle Shanahan should cut this article out or print it out and hang it in Matt's locker.
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Did anyone read the comments. Matt Bowen picks the Saints and Texans in the Super Bowl.

As for the drivel, anything written or said by Lombardi goes in one ear and out the other with me. The guy has zero credibility in my book. I would trust something written by a 5 yr old about the Texans than that jerk.
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Did anyone read the comments. Matt Bowen picks the Saints and Texans in the Super Bowl.

As for the drivel, anything written or said by Lombardi goes in one ear and out the other with me. The guy has zero credibility in my book. I would trust something written by a 5 yr old about the Texans than that jerk.
I would love a Saints Texans superbowl. Wow!
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I would love a Saints Texans superbowl. Wow!
Oh man...

I'd like to see us and the cowboys, but we ALL know why that isnt happening.
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Oh man...

I'd like to see us and the cowboys, but we ALL know why that isnt happening.
The cowboys suck or will choke again?
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My ideal matchup?

Super Bowl XLIV: Chicago Bears vs. Houston Texans
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My ideal matchup?

Super Bowl XLIV: Chicago Bears vs. Houston Texans
OH HELL YES!!
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