#89 Heisman - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

Blake · 06-02-2004

Why wont anybody give Eric Crouch a chance at QB? I didnt watch him in NCAA, so I dont know the whole story. I just know he won the heisman.

texans · 06-02-2004

he was like vick but he could not throw. he is hell a fast though i think he ran a 4.3 at the combine. He has no chance in the nfl intill he changes is atude and starts acting like jamal lord GRATEFULL he is in the NFL

BuffSoldier · 06-02-2004

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Originally Posted by texans

he was like vick but he could not throw. he is hell a fast though i think he ran a 4.3 at the combine. He has no chance in the nfl intill he changes is atude and starts acting like jamal lord GRATEFULL he is in the NFL

Thats basically it. He was in the same system Lord was in and he was just faster and a better runner, I remember one play, he was going to get sacked for a safety but he ran around the DE out of the End Zone and ran over 100 yards for a TD. Just like Lord is moving to FS people moved Crouch to WR and KR. He still wants to be a QB though he has no arm, if he focused on playing WR he might actually play once in a while.

Blake · 06-02-2004

how do you get the heisman as a QB if you cant throw?

BuffSoldier · 06-02-2004

You run the ball like one of the top RBs in the country and complete a pass here and there.

**infantrycak** · 06-02-2004

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Crouch is the 17th quarterback to win the Heisman and the first true option quarterback in the 67-year history of the award. He has posted a 35-6 career record as a starter, a remarkable feat which ranks fourth best among Division I-A quarterbacks all time.

He has put up incredible numbers, ranking fourth all time in NCAA history in rushing among quarterbacks with 3,434 career yards and bettering the NCAA record for rushing touchdowns by 10 with 59. He ranks third at NU and seventh in the Big 12 in passing with 4,481 yards, becoming just one of three quarterbacks in NCAA Division I history to rush for 3,000 and pass for 4,000 yards.

He became the 13th quarterback to rush and pass for 1,000 yards in a season and has 1,115 rushing and 1,510 passing yards with 18 and seven TDs, respectively. Crouch’s season rushing yards more than double that of the most by any Heisman quarterback (Oregon State’s Terry Baker had 538 in 1962). The only thing he hasn’t done is win a national championship, but only 10 of the 66 winners all-time have done so in the year they won the award, just four since 1950.

A little write up on his college record.

J-Man · 06-02-2004

Crouch no matter what else he might be (or not be) is a genuine no-S**T stud athlete. I agree that his attitude was pretty lacking and there are obvious questions about committment.

One thing I want to lay on the table in reference to Crouch (and Lord for that matter) is that sometimes I think the NFL values position specialization maybe a bit too much. Guys that are 'tweeners can make valuable contributions to rosters and be playmakers in their own right. Look at Kordell Stewart...not a great QB, WR, KR, or RB...but he could sure compete at all 4 of those positions. Stewart is too focused on being a QB to take advantage of his multi-role capability.

HoustonTexansAreTheBest · 06-02-2004

Great post J-Man.

J-Man · 06-02-2004

Thanks! I try to call 'em like I see 'em.

Seasons Rearranged · 06-02-2004

this is harsh (winning a Heisman is no joke).... but the guy is a quitter. He almost quit early in his college career & has already quit the NFL twice. Where's the mental toughness?

On a similar note... the Jets a a few years past had also drafted a QB (Nebraska i think) & tried converting him to safety... whatever happened?

Boris · 06-02-2004

this is harsh (winning a Heisman is no joke).... but the guy is a quitter. He almost quit early in his college career & has already quit the NFL twice. Where's the mental toughness?

i posted that but someone else (SeasonsRearranged) had logged in on my computer... i'll be more attentive next time

06-02-2004	#1
Blake MMQB Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spring Section: 551/B Posts: 9,595 Rep Power: 14926	#89 Heisman Why wont anybody give Eric Crouch a chance at QB? I didnt watch him in NCAA, so I dont know the whole story. I just know he won the heisman. __________________

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Blake MMQB Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spring Section: 551/B Posts: 9,595 Rep Power: 14926	how do you get the heisman as a QB if you cant throw? __________________

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BuffSoldier Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Tha South Side of Screwston, Texas Age: 25 Posts: 1,929 Rep Power: 11	You run the ball like one of the top RBs in the country and complete a pass here and there. __________________ Pressure bust a pipe.

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J-Man Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft Hood, Tx Age: 37 Posts: 402 Rep Power: 10	Crouch no matter what else he might be (or not be) is a genuine no-ST stud athlete. I agree that his attitude was pretty lacking and there are obvious questions about committment. One thing I want to lay on the table in reference to Crouch (and Lord for that matter) is that sometimes I think the NFL values position specialization maybe a bit too much. Guys that are 'tweeners can make valuable contributions to rosters and be playmakers in their own right. Look at Kordell Stewart...not a great QB, WR, KR, or RB...but he could sure compete at all 4 of those positions. Stewart is too focused on being a QB to take advantage of his multi-role capability. __________________ Who's the Man?... J-Man, that's WHO!** Eat 'em Up, KATS!

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J-Man Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft Hood, Tx Age: 37 Posts: 402 Rep Power: 10	Thanks! I try to call 'em like I see 'em. __________________ Who's the Man?... J-Man, that's WHO! Eat 'em Up, KATS!

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texans Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 157 Rep Power: 0	he was like vick but he could not throw. he is hell a fast though i think he ran a 4.3 at the combine. He has no chance in the nfl intill he changes is atude and starts acting like jamal lord GRATEFULL he is in the NFL

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HoustonTexansAreTheBest Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 100 Rep Power: 10	Great post J-Man. __________________ Kerry/Edwards 2004 "Hope Is On the Way"-John Edwards

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Seasons Rearranged Rookie Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	this is harsh (winning a Heisman is no joke).... but the guy is a quitter. He almost quit early in his college career & has already quit the NFL twice. Where's the mental toughness? On a similar note... the Jets a a few years past had also drafted a QB (Nebraska i think) & tried converting him to safety... whatever happened?

06-02-2004	#11
Boris All Pro Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 735 Rep Power: 14	this is harsh (winning a Heisman is no joke).... but the guy is a quitter. He almost quit early in his college career & has already quit the NFL twice. Where's the mental toughness? i posted that but someone else (SeasonsRearranged) had logged in on my computer... i'll be more attentive next time

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