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Old 04-21-2009   #1
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Guess where Steve Slaton ends up. Do you think this is right, or maybe he deserves to be higher on the list?

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I like their rankings, but think Chris Johnson should be a lot lower. How is he 1st when Slaton had more rushing yards and receiving yards than he did?

I think the tackles got rated too low also

I'd probably rate them:

Matt Ryan
Matt Forte
Steve Slaton
Jarod Mayo
Ryan Clady
Chris Johnson
Joe Thomas
Eddie Royal
Joe Flacco
DeSean Jackson

i don't remember who i left off
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Default Re: NFL Top 10 Rookies of 2008

List is crap, in my opinion...

I would have Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco AND Steve Slaton before Chris Johnson.

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What's the list? I can't view this video.
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Default Re: NFL Top 10 Rookies of 2008

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What's the list? I can't view this video.
1. Chris Johnson
2. Matt Ryan
3. Joe Flacco
4. Matt Forte
5. Eddie Royal
6. Steve Slaton
7. Jarod Mayo
8. Ryan Clady
9. Jake Long
10. DeSean Jackson

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Nitro,

Chris Johnson 1
Matt Ryan 2
Joe Flacco 3
Matt Forte 4
Eddie Royal 5
Steve Slaton 6
Jarod Mayo 7
Ryan Clady 8
Jake Long 9
DeSean Jackson 10
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1. Chris Johnson
2. Matt Ryan
3. Joe Flacco
4. Matt Forte
5. Eddie Royal
6. Steve Slaton
7. Jarod Mayo
8. Ryan Clady
9. Joe Thomas
10. DeSean Jackson
Joe Thomas was 2007. I'm thinking it should be Jake Long in there. I like seeing a 3rd round pick in there with all those 1st rounders. Nice steal with Slaton.
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what i'm wondering about is the guy that claims that Johnson should've been the ROY. wait... he split carries... he didn't lead rookies in rushing yards OR total yards OR receiving yards and he didn't lead the third worse team in the league last year to the playoffs this year like Ryan did. thats mother ********** bullshit my friend.
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Forte I can see ahead of Slaton, but Chris Johnson being ahead (and by a large margin) is total BS! I would be OK if the rest of the list was the same, except you wedge Johnson between Slaton and Mayo.
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Have no idea how Royal and Flacco are above Slaton. They both had good season's, but didn't Slaton finish 6th in the entire NFL in rushing yds and he only started 12 games!?
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Here's my top ten...


1.) Steve Slaton - How many times has he bailed us out of games?

2.) Matt Forte - After parting ways with Cedric Benson, the Bears got a better one for much cheaper.

3.) Matt Ryan - Great year with the Falcons and led them to the playoffs.

4.) Jake Long - Anchored there offensive line allowing them to run the Wildcat and make sure Pennington remained on his feet.

5.) Joe Flacco - Led them to 2 playoff wins.

6.) Chris Johnson - Blazing speed and earned a Pro Bowl (I think)

7.) Eddie Royal - Spectacular year receiving and had a bunch of recs.

8.) Jerod Mayo - Good future LB who stepped it up.

9.) DeSean Jackson - Aside from the bonehead play where he dropped the ball, great WR.

10.) Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - CB who played a big role for the Cards.

*Honorable mention ~ Ryan Clady*
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what i'm wondering about is the guy that claims that Johnson should've been the ROY. wait... he split carries... he didn't lead rookies in rushing yards OR total yards OR receiving yards and he didn't lead the third worse team in the league last year to the playoffs this year like Ryan did. thats mother ********** bullshit my friend.
Johnson transformed that offense. It's amazing how different the meatballs are with him in the backfield. Take him out for any stretch of games and they are a plodding team with a weak wr corp and guys not quite Frank Wycheck and not quite Steve McNair and not quite Eddie George running Heimerdinger's run-N-chunk to the TE offense. This is a chump offense without him. I remember sitting at the Titans game last year and remarking to the guy next to me that everyone thought the Titans were going to pick a WR in the draft but shocked most fans and pundits by taking Johnson. The pick was mocked till he started to play. No wr would have injected what he brought to the table in that offense. It's amazing what one outstanding RB can do for an otherwise mediocre offense.
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Johnson transformed that offense. It's amazing how different the meatballs are with him in the backfield. Take him out for any stretch of games and they are a plodding team with a weak wr corp and guys not quite Frank Wycheck and not quite Steve McNair and not quite Eddie George running Heimerdinger's run-N-chunk to the TE offense. This is a chump offense without him. I remember sitting at the Titans game last year and remarking to the guy next to me that everyone thought the Titans were going to pick a WR in the draft but shocked most fans and pundits by taking Johnson. The pick was mocked till he started to play. No wr would have injected what he brought to the table in that offense. It's amazing what one outstanding RB can do for an otherwise mediocre offense.
Yep he transformed their offense into a power running game into a speed one. Nothing loike Matt Ryan did for the Falcons.

Anyone who is not on board with him as ROY is drinking heavier stuff than Patron.
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what i'm wondering about is the guy that claims that Johnson should've been the ROY. wait... he split carries... he didn't lead rookies in rushing yards OR total yards OR receiving yards and he didn't lead the third worse team in the league last year to the playoffs this year like Ryan did. thats mother ********** bullshit my friend.
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Johnson transformed that offense. It's amazing how different the meatballs are with him in the backfield. Take him out for any stretch of games and they are a plodding team with a weak wr corp and guys not quite Frank Wycheck and not quite Steve McNair and not quite Eddie George running Heimerdinger's run-N-chunk to the TE offense. This is a chump offense without him. I remember sitting at the Titans game last year and remarking to the guy next to me that everyone thought the Titans were going to pick a WR in the draft but shocked most fans and pundits by taking Johnson. The pick was mocked till he started to play. No wr would have injected what he brought to the table in that offense. It's amazing what one outstanding RB can do for an otherwise mediocre offense.
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Yep he transformed their offense into a power running game into a speed one. Nothing loike Matt Ryan did for the Falcons.

Anyone who is not on board with him as ROY is drinking heavier stuff than Patron.
I never said that my preference is Johnson over Ryan for the rookie of the year award, but I obviously disagree with the notion that since Johnson split carries with White, and didn't lead the rookies in rushing that his season wasn't very credible.
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I dunno was anybody else in that group taken as late as Slaton ?
Being a third-round pick likely makes Slaton the best value in last years Draft ? It also gives the Texans more latitude in picking the "companion-back" for Slaton this year. I mean don't get me wrong I don't expect the Texans to take a back in the first-round this year, but since they have such a relatively modest investment in Stevie-Wonder the Texans are freer to make a bolder move in the Draft at running-back.
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I do think Slaton was the best value, but if we're just going on top 10 rookies, I don't think he'd be #1. Forte completely carried that Bears team offense and Ryan took a complete mess of a team to the playoffs
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1. Matt Ryan
2. Ryan Clady
3. Matt Forte
4. Steve Slaton
5. Chris Johnson
6. Joe Flacco
7. Jake Long
8. Jarod Mayo
9. DeSean Jackson
10. Eddie Royal

That's how I would rank them.
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Yep he transformed their offense into a power running game into a speed one. Nothing loike Matt Ryan did for the Falcons.

Anyone who is not on board with him as ROY is drinking heavier stuff than Patron.
Johnson transformed the offense i'll give you that. he also was able to ride his defense to the playoffs while Ryan took a team that drafted 3rd the year before, put them on his back, and got to the wild card.
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Joe Thomas was 2007. I'm thinking it should be Jake Long in there. I like seeing a 3rd round pick in there with all those 1st rounders. Nice steal with Slaton.
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Johnson transformed the offense i'll give you that. he also was able to ride his defense to the playoffs while Ryan took a team that drafted 3rd the year before, put them on his back, and got to the wild card.
To be fair, I think Michael Turner's 1700 yards and 17 touchdowns helped the Falcons and Ryans a ton. No way would Ryans have been that successful without a running back workhorse like Turner
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