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Old 04-18-2009   #1
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The Jacksonville Jaguars are nearing a deal for free agent wide receiver Torry Holt, but it has not yet been finalized, sources tell ESPN's Chris Mortensen.

Holt was released by the St. Louis Rams on March 13 shortly before he was due a $1.25 million roster bonus on the 17th.

Holt, a seven-time Pro Bowl selection, ranks 11th on the league's all-time reception list with 869 catches.

The 10-year veteran caught just 64 passes last year for 796 yards and three touchdowns, the fewest scoring catches of his career. His total receptions and total yards were the second-lowest of his career, ahead of only his rookie season of 1999.

The Jaguars are in need of a veteran receiver. The team released troubled receiver Matt Jones last month after he violated a plea agreement from an earlier drug charge. They also released Jerry Porter and didn't re-sign free agent Reggie Williams.
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Better the Jaguars than the Titans
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The Jags gotta make the move. They've really gotten backed into a corner with their WR options..
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I can't believe Da Bears aren't making a run at him.
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I can't believe Da Bears aren't making a run at him.
I'd like to see them land Bouldin but donno what they could offer them.
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I'd like to see them land Bouldin but donno what they could offer them.
by "them" do you mean the Bears or the Jags?
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I'd like to see them land Bouldin but donno what they could offer them.

Yep, Bouldin would be a better one for the Bears, but I don't think they can swing it. Cutler would be doing cartwheels though if they could snag him.
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Default Re: Jags Near Deal For Holt

Really surprised at the overall lack of interest in Holt. Would've thought a few teams that could use his services to get over the top would be vying a bit more like the Eagles, Giants,Panthers or Chargers. I think the Jags might be in hurry to get this done not just because they need to help desperately but because once the draft arrives we might see some trades for other WRS like Edwards and Boldin, then suddenly some teams are going to be left with glaring holes at WR. The interest in Holt should jump if that's the case.
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Default Re: Jags Near Deal For Holt

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...ort=nfl&id=412

Torry Holt just signed a 3-year, $20 million dollar contract with the Jaguars.
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Default Re: Jags Near Deal For Holt

nfl network says it is a done deal. 3yrs.
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Wow, nice deal for Holt there. Guess he had a good bargaining position...got a pretty nice wage, and he's gotta be happy with getting 3 years after his worst year since his rookie season...
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Crap. Why our division?
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I hope he is Jerry Porter v2.0 - free agent bust! At least when the Jags play the Texans.
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Yea, the Jags offense will really be on the move this year...
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I hope he is Jerry Porter v2.0 - free agent bust! At least when the Jags play the Texans.
What evidence do you have that Tory Holt has been anything but the consummate professional ? Our edge over the jags has always been they had crappy receivers. It means they do not hvae to reach for a reciever....in a fairly deep draft for receivers in round one. Reaching for those two DEs hurt them last year. Hears hopping they are still crippled just enough, and their guards don't get too healthy tooo quickly.

Kinda like the final scene in John Carpenter's the thing...you know something is under the floor.....but you would rather not see what it looks like now.
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What evidence do you have that Tory Holt has been anything but the consummate professional ? Our edge over the jags has always been they had crappy receivers.
I think the point was just hoping it doesn't work out for the jags, not a character comparison. Almost $7 mil per year is a big commitment, almost AJ money. I see Holt as still a productive player, but not in that class.
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They haven't always had crappy receivers 3TP. When they've had good receivers they couldn't get the ball to them because they had a crappy QB.

Fortunately for us Jacksonville is where recievers go to die and Holt will be no different. Every old WR thinks they're going to be "Jerry Rice Lite" and go down the road and show the team that let them go what a mistake they made. Most though end up being the full version of Eric Moulds. Holt is 33 years old, slowing down, and going to a team that is snakebit when it comes to the passing game. It's almost like T.O. going to Buffalo. It makes so little sense you just can't not look. It's like a train wreck in slow motion.

Mark my words. Torry Holt has the worst season of his career in Jacksonville this year and then retires.
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PleasebeEricMoulds pleasebeEricMoulds pleasebeEricMoulds pleasebeEric Moulds

You know, towards the end of their careers, the greatest wide receivers tend to be pretty bad. I sure hope that's the case.

As much as I hate to say I like this signing, and I do, they still have to make up for being too full of themselves and getting rid of Marcus Stroud and Mike Peterson. Not to mention, their O-line might still be in shambles.
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I imagine his knees are worst then being reported and did not see much in the way of offers. He is only guaranteed $4 mill this season and could be cut after if he does not produce. Jags suck BTW.
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They haven't always had crappy receivers 3TP. When they've had good receivers they couldn't get the ball to them because they had a crappy QB.

Fortunately for us Jacksonville is where recievers go to die and Holt will be no different. Every old WR thinks they're going to be "Jerry Rice Lite" and go down the road and show the team that let them go what a mistake they made. Most though end up being the full version of Eric Moulds. Holt is 33 years old, slowing down, and going to a team that is snakebit when it comes to the passing game. It's almost like T.O. going to Buffalo. It makes so little sense you just can't not look. It's like a train wreck in slow motion.

Mark my words. Torry Holt has the worst season of his career in Jacksonville this year and then retires.
I hope you're right, but to compare Holt to Porter isn't fair. Porter was a simply stupid/desperate signing on the part of the Jags. His whole career was/is nothing more than unrealized potential. Granted, Holt's got a little more wear on the tires, but I think he's got some tread left too (although 3 years for $20 Million might be a tad on the over-optimistic side).

To put it in perspective, Porter was a 30 year old receiver who had fewer than 300 catches when he was signed by the Jags (still does as a matter of fact), had only 30 TD catches, and no post-season honors. Holt has over 850 catches, over 70 TD catches, 7 Pro-Bowl seasons, and 1 All-Pro season.

Holt is unlikely to get to a Pro-Bowl with the Jags or anyone else, but even at 32, he's a better WR than Porter is, ever was, or ever will be.
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