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Old 04-08-2009   #1
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No doubt there will be a lot of excitement around Steve Slaton in fantasy drafts this preseason. After all, the Texans running back totaled almost 1,660 yards and averaged 4.8 yards per carry in his rookie season last year. Those numbers rightfully earned him a 2009 preseason ranking of 13 among RBs.

That kind of success from a rookie usually leads owners to believe that there's nowhere to go but up, especially if the coaches decide to loosen the reigns on Slaton in his second year. Unfortunately for optimistic Slaton owners, he may not get the increase in touches they are hoping for in Year 2.

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I hope Steve Slaton can continue to perform well and I hope he doesn't have a Sophomore slump. Hopefully, the Texans well add another Guard (Maybe Isander from West Virginia) and or a Center (Max Unger, Jonathan Lugis, or Edwin Williams) to help open up more holes for Slaton to zip through.

Not since Domanick "Davis" Williams have we had a 1,000+ yard rushing RB. Slaton is a diamond in the rough and I'm glad as hell we drafted him. I know adding Slaton helped me win my Yahoo Fantasy Football season, thanks to him and DeAngelo Williams as well as Michael Turner.
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The #1 golden rule in Fantasy football used to be......"don't draft a Denver RB", because they just distributed the carries between 2 or 3 different guys, but they always were top 5 in rushing.

I hope this happens with us, even though I got Slaton in the last round and he made me a winner in both of my leagues.

However I still think Slaton is going to have plenty of value, he's going to be a much bigger weapon in the passing game this season. That's a part of his game that wasn't utilized enough and even when we draft another back, that back is still going to be a rook so the trust factor with Kubiak won't be there yet. (the only reason why Slaton got as much time as he did last season was because of injuries to pretty much every other player on the team.) I still think Slaton will get plenty of touches next season, but not around the goalline/short yardage situations.....so that will rob some value from him.
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I know adding Slaton helped me win my Yahoo Fantasy Football season, thanks to him and DeAngelo Williams as well as Michael Turner.
My god did you even lose a game......

Crap I had Slaton, Chris Johnson, and A. Peterson (as well as Jonathan Stewart) and I only lost 2.
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I hope Steve Slaton can continue to perform well and I hope he doesn't have a Sophomore slump. Hopefully, the Texans well add another Guard (Maybe Isander from West Virginia) and or a Center (Max Unger, Jonathan Lugis, or Edwin Williams) to help open up more holes for Slaton to zip through.

Not since Domanick "Davis" Williams have we had a 1,000+ yard rushing RB. Slaton is a diamond in the rough and I'm glad as hell we drafted him. I know adding Slaton helped me win my Yahoo Fantasy Football season, thanks to him and DeAngelo Williams as well as Michael Turner.
How many times am I going to have to straighten people like you out? The Texans will not draft a single offensive lineman. Period. End of sentence. Kubiak and Gibbs LOVE the starting line we have. In fact, I just read a Gibbs quote that went something like "in the 30 years of my involvement in football I've never had an offensive line start all 16 games of a season"

More to the point. The Texans threw for 4400+ yards and rushed for 1800+ That doesn't exactly scream "draft offensive lineman!"
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How many times am I going to have to straighten people like you out? The Texans will not draft a single offensive lineman. Period. End of sentence. Kubiak and Gibbs LOVE the starting line we have. In fact, I just read a Gibbs quote that went something like "in the 30 years of my involvement in football I've never had an offensive line start all 16 games of a season"

More to the point. The Texans threw for 4400+ yards and rushed for 1800+ That doesn't exactly scream "draft offensive lineman!"
WRONG!!! If I didnt feel so bad I would tear this post apart. Actually 2 questions should about some it up. Who are our backup OL? Would you want any of them starting for an extended period of time? Our depth on the OL is horrible. We WILL draft depth on the OL or at least add another FA before the season starts.
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Andre Brown from NC State in the 4th please!

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No doubt there will be a lot of excitement around Steve Slaton in fantasy drafts this preseason. After all, the Texans running back totaled almost 1,660 yards and averaged 4.8 yards per carry in his rookie season last year. Those numbers rightfully earned him a 2009 preseason ranking of 13 among RBs.

That kind of success from a rookie usually leads owners to believe that there's nowhere to go but up, especially if the coaches decide to loosen the reigns on Slaton in his second year. Unfortunately for optimistic Slaton owners, he may not get the increase in touches they are hoping for in Year 2.

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/Fan...t_to_rb_slaton

I drafted him in my Dynasty League rookie draft last year so he is already mine!!
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How many times am I going to have to straighten people like you out? The Texans will not draft a single offensive lineman. Period. End of sentence. Kubiak and Gibbs LOVE the starting line we have.
Loving the starting line up doesn't mean OL won't get drafted at some point - in fact they are almost certain to get one at some point. Look at your Gibbs quote - first time in 30 years the OL has all started 16 games. You think he has some opinions on the importance of depth?
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How many times am I going to have to straighten people like you out? The Texans will not draft a single offensive lineman. Period. End of sentence. Kubiak and Gibbs LOVE the starting line we have. In fact, I just read a Gibbs quote that went something like "in the 30 years of my involvement in football I've never had an offensive line start all 16 games of a season"

More to the point. The Texans threw for 4400+ yards and rushed for 1800+ That doesn't exactly scream "draft offensive lineman!"
wow.
1. who are our backups?
2. how many years will our OL start all 16 games together?
3. what was our offensive scoring ranked with "all those yards" we got?

How many times are we going to have to straighten people like you out? You don't just look at the draft to fill your needs, that's what free agency is for. And in all actuality, some of us consider adding OL/RB depth a need on this team. Those positions havn't been addressed yet. It looks as though we can find some decent OL/RBs in this draft and Kubiak/Smith will go a combination of BPA/need.

We'll come out of this draft with a RB,OL,LB,DB you may even throw in WR/PR, DL too. We've got 8 picks bud...
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How many times am I going to have to straighten people like you out? The Texans will not draft a single offensive lineman. Period. End of sentence. Kubiak and Gibbs LOVE the starting line we have. In fact, I just read a Gibbs quote that went something like "in the 30 years of my involvement in football I've never had an offensive line start all 16 games of a season"

More to the point. The Texans threw for 4400+ yards and rushed for 1800+ That doesn't exactly scream "draft offensive lineman!"
Deeerrrrp!

Never had an offensive line completely healthy in 30 years. 1 for 30. Guessing that it doesn't happen again for a minute. T depth is okay with Butler, G depth is embarrasing featuring Kasey Studdard and who even is Brisiel's backup? C depth Chris White, can't even beat out Myers who is at best VERY average. The top 4 or so C in this draft start from day 1 IMO, he's easily replaced. I actually think Brisiel's got a chance to be an solid player if he continues to develop in this system. A decent C would probably raise his game right off the bat. You say they don't get one (period ha) I say they get at least 2 guys in the draft or UFA and maybe even another F/A before camp starts. And if they don't they stuuuuupid.
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There is no doubt in my mind we draft at least one OL, and maybe two depending on how their draft board falls. For sure, they should draft one interior lineman, and maybe they pick up another versatile type. I think the starters as a group are average, with C being the weak spot. The depth is about a D on an A-F grading scale.
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How many times am I going to have to straighten people like you out? The Texans will not draft a single offensive lineman. Period. End of sentence. Kubiak and Gibbs LOVE the starting line we have. In fact, I just read a Gibbs quote that went something like "in the 30 years of my involvement in football I've never had an offensive line start all 16 games of a season"

More to the point. The Texans threw for 4400+ yards and rushed for 1800+ That doesn't exactly scream "draft offensive lineman!"
I would be shocked if we dont draft a G/C and a Tackle to groom for depth. We arent 100% completly rock solid at the position.
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The #1 golden rule in Fantasy football used to be......"don't draft a Denver RB", because they just distributed the carries between 2 or 3 different guys, but they always were top 5 in rushing.

I hope this happens with us, even though I got Slaton in the last round and he made me a winner in both of my leagues.

However I still think Slaton is going to have plenty of value, he's going to be a much bigger weapon in the passing game this season. That's a part of his game that wasn't utilized enough and even when we draft another back, that back is still going to be a rook so the trust factor with Kubiak won't be there yet. (the only reason why Slaton got as much time as he did last season was because of injuries to pretty much every other player on the team.) I still think Slaton will get plenty of touches next season, but not around the goalline/short yardage situations.....so that will rob some value from him.
I don't think it matters who we draft as another RB or where as far as what kind of value Slaton will have in fantasy. Slaton will have nice fantasy numbers next year either way because he is a HR hitter that can score on any play if he gets the right amount of space. most of his TD's weren't on GL carries last season. He was taking them in from distances. And like you say, he'll be used in the passing game quite a bit and I'm guessing that if he stays healthy all season long he'll have a minimum of 400 yards receiving for sure so he should have at least 2 TD's receiving as well. Even if the Texans get a great GL back that gets a lot of TD's I still think Slaton will have a good amount as well. Look at how many White had for the Titans last season as their bruiser. Chris Johnson was still able to get a lot himself.

That is why I really want another stud at RB because Kubes likes to run the ball so much and use the play action. Since that is how he likes to run the offense we really NEED to have two backs to keep our running game stout because our offense is predicated off of the success of the running game. When we don't have one, our offense is so much worse and it hurts the passing game as well.
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I dunno but this really isn't a scoop is it ? I mean there was some talk that the Texans would consider a back for the number #2 spot as one similar to Stevie-Wonder, but we all kinda knew they would go for a bangor, a hard inside runner in the 220-230 range who could pound it more effectively in short yardage situation than our starter.
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Johsnon also got hurt in the play-offs...

Another reason to have two good backs.
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I still think we should wait until the 3rd to get the RB or 4th depending on our board. First round we need a starting defender, and in the 2nd we need to get a guard or center.
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How many times am I going to have to straighten people like you out? The Texans will not draft a single offensive lineman. Period. End of sentence. Kubiak and Gibbs LOVE the starting line we have. In fact, I just read a Gibbs quote that went something like "in the 30 years of my involvement in football I've never had an offensive line start all 16 games of a season"

More to the point. The Texans threw for 4400+ yards and rushed for 1800+ That doesn't exactly scream "draft offensive lineman!"
Wow, this would sounds condescending, even if it was correct.
I don't think it's correct however, and it comes of as something well beyond condescending to me.

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I still think we should wait until the 3rd to get the RB or 4th depending on our board. First round we need a starting defender, and in the 2nd we need to get a guard or center.
If Slaton were to go down next season, then our offense will go right back to being an average one like it was before. The improvement of the running game is what helped the entire offense last season. We have to MAKE SURE we have two capable backs that can make plays and move the chains. The more and more I think about it I don't want us to go further than the 2nd round without taking a RB. Sure we could possibly find another good RB in the 3rd like we did with Slaton but the chances of that get slimmer and slimmer once you get out of the 2nd round. I know we need defense really really bad, but if we used an early pick on a RB, we still have the rest of the entire draft to use on quality defensive players with a lot of potential. I just don't see that break out player in the first round on defense where we'll be with our system. There might be a few, but I don't currently see it right now like I do with a few offensive players and we don't need a WR, but we do NEED a RB. People don't see it as a hole ,but I see it as one for sure until we have two good ones and not just one.
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I think you could add Steve to a list including Andre Johnson, Mario Williams, DeMeco Ryans & Dunta Robinson if you lose them your team suffers immeasreably. I would hate to see Steve hurt or unable to play, there is such a huge drop-off w/current options.
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