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Old 02-08-2005   #101
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He has updated his mock if anybody with Insider wants to post it up
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Here's how they fall into order:
1. San Francisco 49ers: Alex Smith (jr.), QB, Utah
A smart player who will pick up an NFL system quickly, Smith has good size, is mobile enough to hurt teams with his running ability and is also an efficient passer who can make all the necessary throws.



2. Miami Dolphins: Cedric Benson, RB, Texas
A strong, tough runner with good speed for his size, Benson would help fill the void left by the retirement of Ricky Williams. But there is speculation the Dolphins will attempt to fill their running back need through trade, perhaps for Buffalo's Travis Henry, so stay tuned.



3. Cleveland Browns: Aaron Rodgers (jr.), QB, California
Rodgers is a smart, accurate passer with a quick release. His arm strength is adequate and he is a better prospect at this point in his career than former Cal QB Kyle Boller, now the starter for the Baltimore Ravens.



4. Chicago Bears: Braylon Edwards, WR, Michigan
Edwards has the size, speed and athleticism to take over games, and he did that several times in 2004. He also significantly cut down on dropped passes and concentration lapses this past season, pushing his stock even higher.



5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Carnell Wiliams, RB, Auburn
A creative, deceptive runner with tremendous natural skills. Williams can get tough yards inside despite lacking ideal size, a point illustrated by his 29 rushing TDs over the last two years. Was also coached by Tampa head coach Jon Gruden in the Senior Bowl.



6. Tennessee Titans: Adam Jones, CB, West Virginia
A good cover man who will also contribute as a kick returner, Jones has very good closing speed and is a willing tackler in run support. That may be his most important quality with the NFL hurting pass defenses by focusing on downfield infractions by defensive backs.



7. Oakland Raiders: Dan Cody, DE, Oklahoma
A fiery, intense player who always goes all-out, Cody is similar to former NFL standout Kevin Greene in his ability to play on his feet as an outside linebacker, or in a three-point stance as a defensive end.



8. Arizona Cardinals: Ronnie Brown, RB, Auburn
Perhaps the most complete back in the draft, Brown can carry or catch the ball with equal skill. He has size, instincts and quickness that allowed him to put up excellent numbers at the college level.



9. Washington Redskins: Mike Williams (jr.), WR, USC
Williams did not play in 2004 but dominated the college game for two seasons while at USC. His 6-foot-5, 230-pound frame gives him a big advantage over defensive backs, and he has excellent hands. Would be a great help in the development of quarterback Patrick Ramsey and help take some pressure off Clinton Portis in the running game.




Marcus Spears bolstered his stock immensely in Mobile.
10. Detroit Lions: Marcus Spears, DE, LSU
Spears boosted his stock immensely with an outstanding performance at the Senior Bowl. He showcased his speed, strength and athleticism against some of the best offensive linemen in the nation, and his size would make him a welcome addition for a team that needs to boost its pass rush.



11. Dallas Cowboys: Travis Johnson, DT, Florida State
Spends a lot of time in opposing backfields after collapsing the pocket or gaining penetration against the run. Came on strong and raised his stock significantly during his senior year.



12. San Diego Chargers (from NYG): Derrick Johnson, OLB, Texas
Has the speed and strength to chase ballcarriers from sideline to sideline and make things happen when he gets to the ball.



13. Houston Texans: Troy Williamson (jr.), WR, South Carolina
Perhaps the fastest wideout in the draft, Williamson would be a nice complement to budding superstar and physical wideout Andre Johnson.




14. Carolina Panthers: Alex Barron, OT, Florida State
With light feet for a player his size, Barron is a consistent blocker who is equally adept in both the pass and run games.



15. Kansas City Chiefs: Shawne Merriman (jr.), DE/OLB, Maryland
A workout warrior who would help shore up a defensive line that had trouble pressuring the quarterback last season. Expect Kansas City to commit nearly its entire draft to the defensive side of the ball.



16. New Orleans Saints: Brodney Pool (jr.), S, Oklahoma
A complete safety who excels in coverage and is more than adequate in run support, Pool has excellent size, covers a lot of ground and shows good anticipation in diagnosing plays.



17. Cincinnati Bengals: Roddy White, WR, UAB
A big-play wideout who averaged 20.0 yards per catch last season, White's combination of size and speed is in the elite category.



18. Minnesota Vikings: Shaun Cody, DL, USC
A versatile lineman who can play end or tackle, and was a leader on the nation's best rush defense..



19. St. Louis Rams: Erasmus James, DE, Wisconsin
Has to answer questions about his durability, but when healthy, James was a force along the line who commanded double-team blocks on a regular basis.



20. Dallas Cowboys (from BUF): Antrell Rolle, CB, Miami
A good cover man who did not see a lot of balls thrown his way in 2004, Rolle was still a force in run support and is adept at blitzing off the corner.



21. Jacksonville Jaguars: Khalif Barnes, OT, Washington
Another player who raised his stock at the Senior Bowl, where he answered questions about a wrist injury that sidelined him for the final six games of 2004. Excellent in both run and pass blocking and earned the respect of Iowa DE Matt Roth at the Senior Bowl, with Roth calling Barnes the best tackle he faced all season.




Mark Clayton would be a great weapon for Kyle Boller.
22. Baltimore Ravens: Mark Clayton, WR, Oklahoma
Has excellent speed and is one of the best in years at running after the catch, making Clayton a big-play threat who would give young QB Kyle Boller another option on the outside.



23. Seattle Seahawks: Matt Roth, DE, Iowa
A tremendous natural pass rusher who has fire and intensity, Roth's outstanding consistency this season helped raise his stock.



24. Green Bay Packers: Thomas Davis (jr.), OLB, Georgia
A punishing tackler who played safety in college, Davis has the size and speed to become a force in the front seven at the pro level.



25. Denver Broncos: Demarcus Ware, OLB, Troy
Needs to add a little bulk to his frame, but his quickness would give a boost to a Denver pass rush that was lackluster in 2004.



26. New York Jets: Carlos Rogers, CB, Auburn
A physical player who is an asset in run support and also has the speed to be an outstanding cover man. Rogers was the best player on a very good Auburn defense thanks to his consistency and durability.



27. Atlanta Falcons: Brandon Browner (so.), CB, Oregon State
With his good size and speed, Browner is a consistent cover man who would be a nice complement to last year's top pick, fellow CB D'Angelo Hall.



28. San Diego Chargers: Roscoe Parrish (jr.), WR, Miami
A speedy guy who would round out a receiving corps bolstered this season by the addition of Keenan McCardell and the emergence of TE Antonio Gates. Parrish would also be an asset in the return game.



29. Indianapolis Colts: Anttaj Hawthorne, DT, Wisconsin
His combination of size, strength and athleticism make Hawthorne an ideal 4-3 defensive tackle. He knows how to handle double-team blocks and can create lost-yardage plays.



30. Pittsburgh Steelers: Heath Miller (jr.), TE, Virginia
A tremendous pass receiver and a willing blocker along the line, Miller would give young quarterback Ben Roethlisberger another weapon to complement his wide receivers and also be a help to the Pittsburgh running game.



31. Philadelphia Eagles: Reggie Brown, WR, Georgia
Has excellent size and hands and gained plenty of attention with a good Senior Bowl showing. Would be a nice addition to a receiving corps led by Terrell Owens.



32. New England Patriots: Channing Crowder (so.), MLB, Florida
Crowder immediately became one of the best linebackers in college after setting foot on campus. He has all the skills and instincts to be a tremendous middle linebacker at the next level.


Borderline first-rounders

The players below are on the very fringe of the first round and depending on how things shake down some, all or none of them could ultimately end up being taken off the board in the first 31 selections:

Darryl Blackstock, OLB, Virginia

Jammal Brown, OT, Oklahoma

Jason Campbell, QB, Auburn

Charlie Frye, QB, Akron

Bryant McFadden, CB, Florida State

David Pollack, DE, Georgia

Justin Tuck (jr.), DE, Notre Dame
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I really think the Texans have any number of ways they can go in the draft.

I'm becoming more inclined to think they will draft "best player available" and no so much by position need.
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Thanks for the post but what the...?!?!?!?!? That pick came out of left field. I think this makes it official that nobody really knows whats going to happen until April.
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Is Adam Jones the guy known as Pacman?
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Thanks for the post Alex - nice to know we've got some money guys on the
Board who can afford Kiper's service. Its an interesting Mock. I dunno, unless
this South Carolina WY gets an awful good recommendation from D-Rob, I'd
take Mark Clayton or another possession type receiver as a compliment to AJ. But I don't think we will draft any WR, unless somehow Mike Williams is
still available.
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Is Adam Jones the guy known as Pacman?
Yes. Adam Jones, CB from West Virginia, prefers to be called Pac-Man.

In a related story, UT OLB Derrick Johnson has legally changed his name to "Frogger".
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Thanks for the post but what the...?!?!?!?!? That pick came out of left field. I think this makes it official that nobody really knows whats going to happen until April.
I couldnt agree more....in that position, alex barron or antrell rolle are a no-brainer.
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The reason I asked about the Pac-Man guy (I misspelled it earlier) is that I've read a few places where some "experts" are saying this guy is a can't miss player. I am trying to recall if I've seen him before and I can't say I remember that I have but if this talk is true he sounds like a can't miss type of player.
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Yes. Adam Jones, CB from West Virginia, prefers to be called Pac-Man.

In a related story, UT OLB Derrick Johnson has legally changed his name to "Frogger".
The Texans decide to make it a clean sweep, and pick up Atari Bigsby, S, of Central Florida. Aparently the Texans want to lock up all the video game sponsorships.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/pla...taribigby.html
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P.S. I hate the pick. I would rather see us get Barron, Merriman, Rolle, Davis.
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It's been awhile since a RB was taken in the first round, yet Kiper's Mock
has no less than 3 RB picks in the top round. And Kiper is about as close as anyone to hitting the mark on these predictions. Since nobody is representing
these RBs as another OJ or Bo Jackson, maybe this is a really very weak
draft. Atleast at the top.
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I would be outraged if we drafted Williamson in the first round with Barron, Davis, Rolle, Merriman, and Rogers still on the board. Hell, I would rather draft Heath Miller than any receiver not named Mike Williams.
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I would be outraged if we drafted Williamson in the first round with Barron, Davis, Rolle, Merriman, and Rogers still on the board. Hell, I would rather draft Heath Miller than any receiver not named Mike Williams.
Was Derrick Johnson not even mentioned?
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Didn't CC say that we would be taking Best Defensive Player available? I thought I remember him saying that. If DJ was one spot ahead of us I think we should give up a 5th or 6th and trade up that one spot to grab him. Chargers have 2 picks in the first so they would probably do it.
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Yea but Kiper has DJ going a pick ahead of us. I was talking about the guys after the 13th pick.
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I don't really have a problem with the pick, but Roscoe Parrish in the first? Didn't he get a third round projection by the Advisory Commitee?
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After studying Kipers tendencies over the last few years, he always seems to rank some players higher than others and some that should be top 10 picks, down in the lower half of the first.

This is part of why he is "a guru". As the offseason wears on, he puts players up there that should have been there since the beginning, in an effort to look smarter than anyone else when draft day gets here.

P.S. Most of his information is from Vinny Cerato, GM for the Redskins.
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I apologize for being so blind. I didn't even see where he was picked in the first round.
If DJ does fall that far maybe the Texans would make a move.
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After studying Kipers tendencies over the last few years, he always seems to rank some players higher than others and some that should be top 10 picks, down in the lower half of the first.

This is part of why he is "a guru". As the offseason wears on, he puts players up there that should have been there since the beginning, in an effort to look smarter than anyone else when draft day gets here.

P.S. Most of his information is from Vinny Cerato, GM for the Redskins.
I agree texansfan88, notice in his first Mock (posted here) that a certain 300lb DE from LSU named Marcus Spears was not even mentioned as a 1st round pick, now his stock has risen because of Mobile to the 10th overall? when all along he was a top 15 pick from the beginning, this proves your point. so if anything else seems out of order it probably is, just enjoy the ride through draft day into what has become the most closely watched Non-Sporting event in Sports
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