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Old 01-18-2005   #41
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how can anyone can give any kind of definate evaluation of our offensive players.. without the line working.. that just blows my mind.

Seems like every year we are talking about Gaffney looking good and really improving.. then as soon as the offseason rolls around everyone starts talking about how he sucks.. whatever... he will continue to be a great WR for us.
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Personally, I would draft Rolle if this unlikely scenario were to play out...It doesn't really address our bigger needs, but IMO he's the BPA, and he does address our need to find Glenn's replacement...I wouldn't be mad if we were to get Williams, though...As it's already been said,
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Ex: If we picked up Bubba Franks and Walter Jones to help with pass and run blocking, would any of you have a problem witht them drafting M. Williams?
Yes I would have a problem, because we still wouldnt have a defense and the Colts proved that no matter how good your offense is, you will get run over when it counts the most when you cant stop anyone...
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I think the most important thing is we get a playmaker with the 13th pick. and someone who will hopefully be competing for a starting position late in the season at worst. or will be a 5-10 year starter.
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Yes I would have a problem, because we still wouldnt have a defense and the Colts proved that no matter how good your offense is, you will get run over when it counts the most when you cant stop anyone...
You missed the entire point.

The point i was trying to make was that we still haven't seen what will happen in free agency and that can determine who we will decide to pick up in the draft. Just because this Mel Moron came up with these picks in his head doesn't mean that's who the texans will decide to go with.

There are so many ifs and buts left to deal with that their is absolutely no way to tell who or what position the texans will decide draft for.
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does anyone know what kind of contract the 13th pick in last years draft got?
A #13 pick would get a 5-6 year deal for around $10 million.
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i think everyone understands that its just a mock draft. but until the draft comes the only thing we can do is discuss, debate, and have heated discourse until draft day.
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Kiper has something there, but TE/C/FS are more pressing needs.
How is FS a need? Isn't that why we extended Coleman's contract last season?
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How is FS a need? Isn't that why we extended Coleman's contract last season?
Yeah i can't get over the fact that people think we should draft a safty either. IMO i think that would be a waste of a pick, especially if it's on the first day.
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How is FS a need? Isn't that why we extended Coleman's contract last season?
Some people feel that Coleman is overrated and stinks. Others, like me and the ones who gave him the contract extension, feel that he will be a playmaker in the secondary for a few more years.
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I feel like he is and will be a playmaker at FS. He has made some big plays this past season...
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Some people feel that Coleman is overrated and stinks. Others, like me and the ones who gave him the contract extension, feel that he will be a playmaker in the secondary for a few more years.
Come on Fiddy you and I both know that CBs can't be effective after making the switch to S. Just look at Rod Woodson, or Aeneas Williams. Those guys were never any good back there playing safety, they never made any big plays to prove they're still playmakers, and they most definately didn't prolong their careers any.
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You guys seem to forget that our D needs a FS and SS. Look, Coleman was not a shutdown safety like I envisioned him to be. If we draft a Safety and Earl works out, Coleman might not even start.....
So we should bench Coleman and his fat 3 year contract?
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How does Carr stay upright long enough to get the ball down the field? How does the defense get the ball back to the offense? You don't need 2 TO's or 2 AJ's to win in the NFL. But, you do need solid offensive & defensive lines.
I absolutely agree that the OL has to come together for whatever offensive weapons the Texans have to be exploited. Having said that, I bet there are either zero or 1 new starting OLmen when the season starts next year, and neither will be a tackle. With that expectation, I will not be at all surprised if a CB or WR is taken again in the 1st.
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I'm not sure exactly what you envisioned, but I surely didn't expect Coleman to become Brian Dawkins in his first year playing FS. Even if you bring in a rookie you can't honestly expect him to become a shutdown safety in his first season. I feel that Coleman will continue to improve at the position like he did through the season, and keep in mind that he was playing injured for a few games too. I think most have Thomas Davis as the top safety in this year's draft, and the worst aspect of his game is coverage. So I'm not sure how he would be an improvement over Coleman. Even if you're aiming at picking up a Safety later on in day one you won't be able to expect an immediate improvement at the S positions. I just can't imagine the Texans taking a safety on the first day, and as far as day 2 goes it is all a toss up.
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So we should bench Coleman and his fat 3 year contract?
I thought his contract extension actually reduced his cap hit to somewhere around 3million as opposed to 4 or soemthing.
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I thought he was getting 3.? mil a year for the next 3 seasons. I thought the total contract was for 10.? mil over 3 seasons.
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I absolutely agree that the OL has to come together for whatever offensive weapons the Texans have to be exploited. Having said that, I bet there are either zero or 1 new starting OLmen when the season starts next year, and neither will be a tackle. With that expectation, I will not be at all surprised if a CB or WR is taken again in the 1st.
If we do take a WR, I would much rather have Braylon Edwards then Mike Williams (although he will be gone according to this draft). That is my opinion though...
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Kiper has something there, but TE/C/FS are more pressing needs. To draft WR means

1) Payne will be back...
2) Earl, Faggings and Brown will improve as starters
3) Bennie J can play next season
First off, while you are pimping Thomas Davis, understand that he projects to SS in the NFL not FS. His weaknesses are speed and coverage ability.

1) Payne will be back...and I will bet on a 3-4 year contract at 2.5 to 3.0 mil a year.
2) Earl will become the starter and yes should improve as do most players in their second freakin year in the NFL. Faggins isn't a starter now, but will continue to improve.
3) The Texans have a far better idea than anyone around here about the likelihood of Joppru playing.
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I thought he was getting 3.? mil a year for the next 3 seasons. I thought the total contract was for 10.? mil over 3 seasons.
It's a 3 year deal, but I believe it reduced how much of the cap he took up this year. Where's aj when you need him?
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