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Old 01-27-2005   #121
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This is true, but we were hit hard by injuries last year... linebacker was one of the places hit the hardest. Andra Davis missed a few games, and he's our best linebacker. Boyer and Taylor were out for the season, who are some of our "veterans" at the position. Sean Jones was out, who could help tremendously against the run. We lacked Courtney Brown, but not that he makes a difference... Ekuban did quite well in his absense.

In a division full of young, up-and-coming QBs such as Palmer, Boller, and, of course, Roethlisberger, in a few years a great secondary is needed. This is why it would make sense to get a good CB... gotta think about our current personnel and who we have returning next year.
I read the FA list, and I saw a ton of LB's on that list. So you might want to look at it and see who they would try and keep, and who they would try to get rid of.

ERFA- LB Chris Clemons
RFA- LB Ben Taylor, LB Kevin Bentley, MLB Andra Davis
FA- LB Barry Gardner, LB Warrick Holdman, LB Eric Westmoreland

Also, on the up and coming QB's. Great QB's can be shut down without top 10 CB's on each side. Scheme and great LB's and DL men can disrupt a QB to where they are ineffective. And you are most likely getting Romeo, who killed ben and Peyton with guys like Poteat, and Samuel.
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I think the Cardinals will stick where they are and take a RB. Danny likes to have a strong offense.
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I liked your strategy Vinny and that pick would make me happy. Nothiung against McKinney,but we need some attitude on our line..

just curious for you draft gurus... say the scenerio played out with Rogers being at 18 (where vinny first traded down) and Vinny picked him... what would it have taken for vinny to move up to 23 being he had extra picks? two #2's? and a 3rd?

I am just intrigued by this scenerio if in Bass and Rogers could be our 1st 2 picks in the draft.
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According to many scouts, including Mel Kiper, David Baas looked too slow and rather heavy. It should drop his draft stock.
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He could be, and you will find early mocks not even close to the final draft positions if you follow this kind of stuff over the years (thats one reason we are doing this twice....one now and one right around the combine). To try and predict the draft in any absoulte manner isn't really what this is all about. It's about giving our reginal fans a bit of an interactive learning experience, forcing us to look up our picks, team needs, rendering an explanation, sharing them with the others so we raise our collective NFL player IQ when draft day comes around. Develop a strategy, explain your decisions, and make you pick. That's pretty much what I did, besides, its no fun just throwing out names everyone else is simply repeating verbatim off of various mock sites.
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Vinny,

What's your opinion of Justin Tuck?
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I saw him play a couple of times but I didn't pay too much attention to him. To be honest he wasn't on my radar early (while I was watching ND games) since he is an underclassman. From what I gater he is exactly the kind of guy we are looking for on the edge. Great size and speed, and an one of the draft's elite pass rushers.
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With the 34th pick in the 2005 NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select

Ernest Shazor, SS Michigan
Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

He is one of my favorite prospects in this draft. Did you choose him due to bpa? The Ravens have Will Demps and Ed Reed (SS) in the secondary.
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Originally I was hoping Elton Brown would fall to me, but the Eagles took him. My choices were really down to Troy Williamson, Adam Terry, Channing Crowder, and Ernest Shazor.

Troy Williamson - The Ravens need immediate help at WR, and they will likely address that position through free agency or trade.

Adam Terry - nice OT with good size but I still think Shazor is the better NFL prospect.

Channing Crowder - with the Ravens moving back to the 4-3, the likely departure of Ed Hartwell won't quite hurt as much. They already have their starting LBs in place for next season with Lewis, Boulware, and Thomas. Shazor gets the nod over Crowder because he will be able to contribute immediately and the Ravens have enough money tied into their LBs.

Ernest Shazor - Ed Reed's greatest skill is his ball hawking ability. Shazor would move to SS allowing Reed to switch to FS maximizing his ball hawking ability. The Ravens were hoping to make a similar move last season by trading for Donovan Darius. They have been looking for that certain enforcer in the secondary. Shazor has the potential to become the next Roy Williams.

I was thinking of trading down a few spots hoping he would fall to me, but I had a feeling you (Vinny) were going to snatch him before I could.
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Yeah, Reed has been playing SS hasn't he? Demps is the FS. I was going to take him and make him an inside linebacker because he projects to play at around 240's in the NFL. I was really, really hoping he would fall to me. I think this guy is going to be a prototype Tampa2 weakside linebacker in all honesty. He is one of my favorite prospects in this draft....so I think he is a good pick in terms of raw talent.
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Will Demps is a FA and an average at best starter. Reed has the ability to play both safety positions, but I feel that with his ballhawking skills, he would make a better FS. The Ravens have gone on record to say that they really want an enforcer in the secondary much like a Donovan Darius/Roy Williams type.
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Reed does play SS, but I think Steel Blue intends to put Shazor in at SS, and that would allow Reed to play FS. Reed is excellent in coverage, and his 9 INTs this year prove it. I must admit if the Ravens had Reed and Shazor back deep waiting to lay a lick on any WR coming into their territory it will make their defense even scarier than it is now. I would have thought they might pick up a CB, but it appears to me that most of the higher quality CBs are gone. Webster might have been a nice pick, but I definately like the Shazor pick.
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Yeah, I like the player and its a good pick imo. Moving Reed is sound logic since Shazor is so athletic...but he is growing fast. I'm think he is in the 230's already, and most feel he will get bigger. I reallly think he will end up at weakside linebacker in some cover 2 scheme. Reed/Shazor would be insane.
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With the 35th pick the Philadelphia Eagles select Anttaj Hawthorne DT U of Wisconsin.
No one knows if Corey Simon will be retained. If he is, fine, but there are age and health questions with Hollis Thomas and Paul Grasmanis. I feel Hawthorne is good vaule here.
another good pick. Rd 2 is starting off well.

The Texans select 6' 7" 295 pound Chris Canty, DE, Virginia. Huge framed run stopping specialist that played the 3-4 end in College, has good pass rushing skills and isn't a classic 4-3 end because he is a bit of a Tackle/End tweener. He has the frame to carry more weight and should not lose any speed. Has had injury concerns or would be a first round pick and is an Ideal fit for the Texans if his knee is sound. I'm sure we will get more news on him by the combine.

http://www.draftboardinsider.com/pla...E/canty-c.html

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I absolutely love that pick, Vinny...If we can't/don't get Spears in round 1, that is definitely my favorite for our 2nd rounder, assuming Elton Brown and Baas are gone...
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I can't believe someone stole Troy Williamson from me. Especially after I was hoping for Roddy White to fall to the Bills only to see him gone at the end of the 1st. So much for moving up to grab a playmaker.
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cmon ColdSteel .. ive been ready to pick since 10pm last night.
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another good pick. Rd 2 is starting off well.

The Texans select 6' 7" 295 pound Chris Canty, DE, Virginia.
Did you consider Thurman or Crowder with your pick? Just wondering because you had said something about making Shazor a LB.

Castillo seems like he could be a good NT type. Any consideration?
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cmon ColdSteel .. ive been ready to pick since 10pm last night.
Good then I won't have to wait for Chic-aago as soon as the Raidaz make their pick.
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