Underclassmen: coming or going? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

wags · 12-27-2004

Just thought I would start a thread where we could announce word on underclassmen who are entering the draft or staying in school:

Some who are staying:

Orien Harris (DT) Miami
Winston Justice (LT) Miami
Gabe Watson (DT) Michigan
Verand Morency (RB) OSU

Leaving:

Troy Williamson (WR) SC
Ciatrick Fason (RB) UF
Rian Wallace (LB) Temple
Chris Henry (WR) WV
Pac Man Jones (CB) WV
T.A. McClendon (RB) NCST

ColdSteelBlue · 12-27-2004

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Originally Posted by wags

Just thought I would start a thread where we could announce word on underclassmen who are entering the draft or staying in school:

Some who are staying:

Orien Harris (DT) Miami
Winston Justice (LT) Miami
Gabe Watson (DT) Michigan
Verand Morency (RB) OSU

Leaving:

Troy Williamson (WR) SC
Ciatrick Fason (RB) UF
Rian Wallace (LB) Temple
Chris Henry (WR) WV
Pac Man Jones (CB) WV
T.A. McClendon (RB) NCST

Justice -LT plays for USC. You must mean Eric Winston- LT miami

STEEL BLUE TEXANS · 12-27-2004

http://www.draftshowcase.com/underclassmen.htm

**ArlingtonTexan** · 12-27-2004

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Originally Posted by ColdSteelBlue

Justice -LT plays for USC. You must mean Eric Winston- LT miami

Justice LT USC
Winston LT Miami

both can be on the list.

wags · 12-27-2004

Looks like you can add Alex Smith (QB) Utah to the list of players leaving.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/nn05.html

ColdSteelBlue · 12-27-2004

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Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan

Justice LT USC
Winston LT Miami

both can be on the list.

I doubt E. Winston will leave. He is a STUD, but injured his knee earlier this year.

cj5776 · 12-27-2004

I can't think of his name but Longhorns have a stud Nose G, perfect pick to be groomed by S Payne. Anybody know if he is staying or going?

wags · 12-27-2004

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Originally Posted by ColdSteelBlue

I doubt E. Winston will leave. He is a STUD, but injured his knee earlier this year.

E. Winston is staying.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS · 12-28-2004

12/28/04

*Utah QB Alex Smith hinted at the Fiesta Bowl press conference that he is leaning towards the draft. 3rd year sophomore WR Steve Savoy is apparently considering the draft as well.

*Rian Wallace is in and his teammate, QB Walter Washington apparently is leaning towards entering as well.

*Virginia OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson has made it pretty clear he plans to return. Teammates Daryl Blackstock and Ahmad Brooks are also expected to return.

*Tennessee coaches appear confident that FS/CB Jason Allen will be returning to the Vols next year.

*Oklahoma State RB Vernand Morency has decided he will return to the Cowboys next season.

http://www.draftshowcase.com/underclassmen.htm

**ArlingtonTexan** · 12-29-2004

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Originally Posted by ColdSteelBlue

I doubt E. Winston will leave. He is a STUD, but injured his knee earlier this year.

i was talking about the staying list...think both have done so publicly, did not mean to confuse.

J-Man · 12-29-2004

Does anyone know if Jaxson Appel is thinking of coming out as a JR? That kid is a tackling machine...he would be a good pick-up in the middle rounds. He might be better suited to SS in the long run but he would probably be an immediate positive impact on special teams and a solid back-up for Coleman.

**ArlingtonTexan** · 12-29-2004

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Originally Posted by J-Man

Does anyone know if Jaxson Appel is thinking of coming out as a JR? That kid is a tackling machine...he would be a good pick-up in the middle rounds. He might be better suited to SS in the long run but he would probably be an immediate positive impact on special teams and a solid back-up for Coleman.

Most likely not, the middle round good football players, but not great athlete types usually stay all 4 years.

Errant Hothy · 12-29-2004

Marion Barber III said he was returning to Minn next year. Be warned this is a second hand source, but I trust it.

**texasguy346** · 12-30-2004

Morency could still leave if his coach leaves to take the LSU job, but he alluded before the Alamo Bowl that he'd be staying.

texansfan88 · 12-30-2004

talked to mathias kiwanuka about a week ago and he's still waiting on his nfl evaluation back before he makes his decision, so don't buy into the boston globe just yet.

TexansCanes · 12-30-2004

wags, whats the word on davis and thurman, have they made up their mind or are they waiting till after the outback?

wags · 12-30-2004

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Originally Posted by TexansCanes

wags, whats the word on davis and thurman, have they made up their mind or are they waiting till after the outback?

They haven't decided yet. I think their waiting till after the game. Richt probably doesn't want any distractions.

DC ROCK posted a link in the 3 A.M. thread, and in it Davis says he's more go than stay right now.

**texasguy346** · 12-31-2004

For everyone interested in Ciatrick Fason the RB out of Florida you should definately watch him and the Gators face off against Miami tonight in the Peach Bowl. I believe it starts at around 6:30 or 7 tonight.

TexansCanes · 01-02-2005

for miami, frank gore is almost certain to come out. i think his mother is quoted saying that he will probabaly leave. a surprise is that roscoe parrish is thinking of coming out. he said something about it before the peach bowl and was talking about it even more after. lb roger macintosh who was thinking of coming out has decided to stay for his sr. and to improve his draft status. he is a physical freak big, strong, and fast (4.5) i don't have a quote or link to confirm, but this is the word on the miami message board.

TexansCanes · 01-02-2005

http://www.wqam.com/index.php?page=65&storyid=71

maybe we should forget what i said about gore, according to an atl radio sation he is going to stay. i think it also has to do with what the draft advisory board has to say (frank said he would go if he is a 1st or 2nd) and if he is able to get insured for next season. we will know by jan 15

12-27-2004	#1
wags Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: TX and FL Age: 34 Posts: 1,601 Rep Power: 22	Underclassmen: staying or going? Just thought I would start a thread where we could announce word on underclassmen who are entering the draft or staying in school: Some who are staying: Orien Harris (DT) Miami Winston Justice (LT) Miami Gabe Watson (DT) Michigan Verand Morency (RB) OSU Leaving: Troy Williamson (WR) SC Ciatrick Fason (RB) UF Rian Wallace (LB) Temple Chris Henry (WR) WV Pac Man Jones (CB) WV T.A. McClendon (RB) NCST __________________ A good argument is always spoiled by someone who knows what they're talking about Last edited by wags; 12-27-2004 at 12:23 AM.

12-27-2004	#5
wags Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: TX and FL Age: 34 Posts: 1,601 Rep Power: 22	Looks like you can add Alex Smith (QB) Utah to the list of players leaving. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/nn05.html __________________ A good argument is always spoiled by someone who knows what they're talking about

12-27-2004	#7
cj5776 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 363 Rep Power: 69	Ut Dl? I can't think of his name but Longhorns have a stud Nose G, perfect pick to be groomed by S Payne. Anybody know if he is staying or going?

12-29-2004	#11
J-Man Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft Hood, Tx Age: 37 Posts: 402 Rep Power: 10	TAMU Free Safety? Does anyone know if Jaxson Appel is thinking of coming out as a JR? That kid is a tackling machine...he would be a good pick-up in the middle rounds. He might be better suited to SS in the long run but he would probably be an immediate positive impact on special teams and a solid back-up for Coleman. __________________ Who's the Man?... J-Man, that's WHO! Eat 'em Up, KATS!

12-30-2004	#16
TexansCanes All Pro Join Date: May 2004 Location: LSU Age: 26 Posts: 600 Rep Power: 10	wags, whats the word on davis and thurman, have they made up their mind or are they waiting till after the outback? __________________ "He's a bad dude, I'd like to have him in our arsenal. I'd never run the ball."

12-27-2004	#3
STEEL BLUE TEXANS Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Age: 30 Posts: 5,327 Rep Power: 1832	http://www.draftshowcase.com/underclassmen.htm

12-28-2004	#9
STEEL BLUE TEXANS Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Age: 30 Posts: 5,327 Rep Power: 1832	12/28/04 Utah QB Alex Smith hinted at the Fiesta Bowl press conference that he is leaning towards the draft. 3rd year sophomore WR Steve Savoy is apparently considering the draft as well. Rian Wallace is in and his teammate, QB Walter Washington apparently is leaning towards entering as well. Virginia OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson has made it pretty clear he plans to return. Teammates Daryl Blackstock and Ahmad Brooks are also expected to return. Tennessee coaches appear confident that FS/CB Jason Allen will be returning to the Vols next year. *Oklahoma State RB Vernand Morency has decided he will return to the Cowboys next season. http://www.draftshowcase.com/underclassmen.htm

12-29-2004	#13
Errant Hothy Hypermediocrity Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Keller, Tx Age: 34 Posts: 9,654 Rep Power: 7471	Marion Barber III said he was returning to Minn next year. Be warned this is a second hand source, but I trust it.

12-30-2004	#14
texasguy346 Mod Squad Join Date: May 2004 Location: Deer Park, TX Age: 30 Posts: 7,066 Rep Power: 2881	Morency could still leave if his coach leaves to take the LSU job, but he alluded before the Alamo Bowl that he'd be staying.

12-30-2004	#15
texansfan88 All Pro Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 25 Posts: 880 Rep Power: 0	talked to mathias kiwanuka about a week ago and he's still waiting on his nfl evaluation back before he makes his decision, so don't buy into the boston globe just yet.

12-31-2004	#18
texasguy346 Mod Squad Join Date: May 2004 Location: Deer Park, TX Age: 30 Posts: 7,066 Rep Power: 2881	For everyone interested in Ciatrick Fason the RB out of Florida you should definately watch him and the Gators face off against Miami tonight in the Peach Bowl. I believe it starts at around 6:30 or 7 tonight.

01-02-2005	#19
TexansCanes All Pro Join Date: May 2004 Location: LSU Age: 26 Posts: 600 Rep Power: 10	for miami, frank gore is almost certain to come out. i think his mother is quoted saying that he will probabaly leave. a surprise is that roscoe parrish is thinking of coming out. he said something about it before the peach bowl and was talking about it even more after. lb roger macintosh who was thinking of coming out has decided to stay for his sr. and to improve his draft status. he is a physical freak big, strong, and fast (4.5) i don't have a quote or link to confirm, but this is the word on the miami message board. __________________ "He's a bad dude, I'd like to have him in our arsenal. I'd never run the ball."

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