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I say no! The way he shooting up the boards and his impressive combine, I beleive by the time the draft gets here he will have a top 15 grade. And dont forget he still has his pro day to impress even more.
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Who voted yes besides me I wanna know!
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Default Re: Is Mathews a reach at 15?

No way.
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Default Re: Is Mathews a reach at 15?

On body of work maybe .

On measureables and pedigree no way .
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I wouldn't mind if we get Clay! I'm not sure about Manboobs Cushion or Peria Jerrythough!
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I think he is a reach at 15. Admittedly though I have not seen him play.
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Default Re: Is Mathews a reach at 15?

He would come in and contribute from day one. He's got elite explosiveness and the family genes. A truly self made player who had to work for everything he's gotten despite coming from such great bloodlines. He went from a 166 pound safety in high school who's dad wouldn't even start him to a 6'3'' 240 pound badass who is gonna go in the 1st round this year.

Whether or not its with the Texans remains to be seen. I'm sure his uncle is stumpin for him though...
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He would come in and contribute from day one. He's got elite explosiveness and the family genes. A truly self made player who had to work for everything he's gotten despite coming from such great bloodlines. He went from a 166 pound safety in high school who's dad wouldn't even start him to a 6'3'' 240 pound badass who is gonna go in the 1st round this year.

Whether or not its with the Texans remains to be seen. I'm sure his uncle is stumpin for him though...
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On body of work maybe .

On measureables and pedigree no way .
See there is my problem of sorts i guess. I almost typed in great bloodline no doubt but is that the reason people are so high on him or is the short time he's been on field?

If we're looking LB for #15 Lauarenitis is the safetest pick IMO.
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Default Re: Is Mathews a reach at 15?

I don't believe any player that is going to help you win games is a reach.

I would take Matthews any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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Default Re: Is Mathews a reach at 15?

I think there's a decent chance he'll go before 15. Really don't think he's a reach at all - and let's not forget he hasn't had his pro day yet.
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See there is my problem of sorts i guess. I almost typed in great bloodline no doubt but is that the reason people are so high on him or is the short time he's been on field?

If we're looking LB for #15 Lauarenitis is the safetest pick IMO.
I think Lauarenitis has peaked where Matthews is just hitting his stride . Think of the Matthews the same way you think of the Barbers . They have several generations that played pro football ... they get it ... they understand the process .

Besides he has the best hair since YKW .

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Default Re: Is Mathews a reach at 15?

I try not to get emotionally vested in someone we may or may not draft - but I like this kid. I agree that he is just beginning to hit his stride and will be able to contribute from day 1 on will and desire alone if nothing else. I did watch a video or two of his play and that kid can seriously hit and he is fast off the line. I want him to be a Texan.
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How can drafting a Greek god ever be considered a reach? He probably even has a constellation already named after him.

But seriously, I probably wouldn't draft him. Being a college walk-on and a starter only in your last year doesn't make him an attractive prospect IMO, atleast not for the 15th pick.
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But seriously, I probably wouldn't draft him. Being a college walk-on and a starter only in your last year doesn't make him an attractive prospect IMO, atleast not for the 15th pick.
I really just don't get this line of thinking.

Would you draft a guy in the top 10 when he couldn't even make the defense for Texas Tech? What about a guy that had to go play at University of New Mexico and couldn't even get much of playing time his freshman or sophomore year? Finally got to play his Jr. and Sr. years? 2 years of starting experience at University of Freakin New Mexico. Top 10 pick.

Does 2 years of "starting" experience trump 1 year of "starting experience" at USC and playing in 50 games while at USC????

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I really just don't get this line of thinking.

Would you draft a guy in the top 10 when he couldn't even make the defense for Texas Tech? What about a guy that had to go play at University of New Mexico and couldn't even get much of playing time his freshman or sophomore year? Finally got to play his Jr. and Sr. years? 2 years of starting experience at University of Freakin New Mexico. Top 10 pick.

Does 2 years of "starting" experience trump 1 year of "starting experience" at USC and playing in 50 games while at USC????

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Matthews is a great special teams player and has played there for four years ..
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Matthews is a great special teams player and has played there for four years ..
Correct. He played in 50 games while at USC. It's not like he doesn't have any experience.
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I really just don't get this line of thinking.

Would you draft a guy in the top 10 when he couldn't even make the defense for Texas Tech? What about a guy that had to go play at University of New Mexico and couldn't even get much of playing time his freshman or sophomore year? Finally got to play his Jr. and Sr. years? 2 years of starting experience at University of Freakin New Mexico. Top 10 pick.

Does 2 years of "starting" experience trump 1 year of "starting experience" at USC and playing in 50 games while at USC????

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Ding Ding Ding! Only two D-1 schools gave him a scholarship. New Mexico State and University of New Mexico. I'm not saying Matthews is going to be an Urlacher. I'm just correlating that one of the best LBs in the league wasn't even a full time starter throughout college. People develop at different times in their life and Urlacher is a perfect example. He was a hybrid safety/linebacker and the coach found a way to get him on the field. Kind of like Carroll finding a way to get Matthews on the field as a DE/LB kind of hybrid player. Urlacher was drafted in the 1st round, #9 overall.
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Anybody think the Browns will take him?
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