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Old 03-11-2009   #1
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Oh, I'm going to stir the pot on this one...BIG TIME.

Just my way of tossing some gasoline on this pile of dried up threads.

Kubiak loves to grab the guy who has potential, but the timing has to be right. He passed on even CONSIDERING a visit for Benson last season, and then had the guy in for a visit (and nearly signed him to a nice offer). That's a pretty big turn around from laughing off the mere thought of Benson to almost signing the guy.

Having said that, here we go...

PacMan Jones. Defensive back AND punt return specialist who has tortured us in the past. He might not be a true one-on-one cover man anymore, but I can see him playing safety...roaming the field and dashing into a deep pass play for the interception.

Glazer has a great column about PacMan on foxsports.com, and it looks like PacMan has finally figured out that he blew his chance. He says he will play for THE LEAGUE MINIMUM for a few years if that's what it takes. He's engaged to be married. He wants no part of strip clubs. He says he's done hanging out with certain people. The shine wore off the party-animal lifestyle, which happens at different points for all people.

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Instead, I came away hoping that the kid who seemed to "get it" in our few days together has turned the corner. He never once shied away and tried to say he did nothing wrong. To the contrary, he openly talked about how much he's screwed up and how he relished the chance to change and prove he has changed. I don't really know how I should feel about this.

"I got a little girl. I'm engaged now, so I have other things that interest me other than going to strip clubs, hanging out with 20 guys 'til four or five o'clock in the morning," Jones said in an exclusive interview. "I want to play football and you can't do those types of things with my lifestyle and all the controversy I've had."

In past interviews, Pacman often denied wrongdoing for his arrests and suspensions. He blamed everyone but himself. I was waiting for him to take this same approach with me. If he had, I was going to jump down his throat. He never gave me the chance.

"If anything goes wrong, it's going to be, 'Oh Pac was there, Pac this, Pac that,' " Jones said. "I'm not saying I haven't done that, I've done some wrong things, I'm no angel by far. But a lot of things I got myself into was being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

"I know, let's not go into the (strip clubs), or hang out with the guys I used to hang out with. I don't got to stay out 'til four o'clock in the morning."

I've had a ton of guys tell me they've changed and I knew they'd be back in trouble before I could hit the "send" button on my column. But this guy felt a little different to me than those clowns.

Of all the former star athletes we had battle it out on this season of PVJ -- and we had major star power like Alonzo Mourning, Steve McNair, Robert Horry, Priest Holmes, the list goes on and on (insert horrific gagging for my shameless plug) -- Pacman was, simply put, the most eager to please. He wasn't pompous. He wasn't a thug. He didn't have an entourage in tow. In fact, he was a natural showman who couldn't have been more gracious.
League minimum? Sign him up. Cut him if he needs to be cut.

Pretty freaking simple if you ask me. Regardless of what you think about him, it still remains that we need talent on defense. And he's easily the replacement of JJ on special teams.

Let the rage commence.
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Old 03-11-2009   #2
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Pay the man!!!

Everyone deserves a (whats he up to??) 4th chance!!
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Mind boggling?

There is no way this would happen. I don't know if there is a single team in the NFL that would want any part of Jones right now. He just got into a fight on Pros vs. Joes for crying out loud. Anything that comes out of his mouth about rehab is worth less than nothing.
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I would definately bring him in for league minimum. Forget the whole choir boy schtick, league minimum is low risk/high reward. He doesn't pan out we can cut him in training camp!!!

Believe me, I hate bringing in bad apples as much as the next person on here but for league minimum its too hard to resist a guy who can play among the best at 2 positions in the NFL (CB/PR). Its a whole different situation if we actually paid him...but it would be LEAGUE MINIMUM.

Maybe having two knuckleheads fighting for the PR job will make the light switch go off in both their heads. Best case we would see Pacman starting opposite a healthy Dunta. Pacman's got too much talent to not even consider at the league minimum.
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it'll never happen here.
McNair is waaaay too proud of the Texans' choirboy image to allow it.

I hadn't heard about the "Pros vs. Joes" scuffle. And even if it happened, are you sure that wasn't staged for ratings??

I mean, I didn't even know that silly show was still on the air.
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it'll never happen here.
McNair is waaaay too proud of the Texans' choirboy image to allow it.

I hadn't heard about the "Pros vs. Joes" scuffle. And even if it happened, are you sure that wasn't staged for ratings??

I mean, I didn't even know that silly show was still on the air.
I doubt it was staged, its really damaging to his (already shattered) image.

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/03/06/p...t-pros-v-joes/

"He hit me 10 yards out of bounds, kind of a cheap shot," Adams said. "I couldn't sit there and not retaliate. You've got to have some pride and dignity."

I mean come on. This guy is more cartoon than human being, he is a complete joke. I am not married to the squeaky clean image the Texans have either but this guy goes so far beyond questionable character and behavior he is really on another planet altogether.
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Wow..I can't believe that someone would suggest the Texans pick-up a familiar named player who is both of bad character and mediocore performance. Who would have thought!!!!
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The Texans will have to hire TexanBill as his chaperone first.
Then he can make the recommendation to McNair, Kubiak and Smith.
Or maybe somebody here on board is a tad more qualified for the job?
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GP!....... WTH!!!! Oh well, I guess we could use @ least one bad boy on the team!
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I just threw up in my mouth alittle. GP youre getting one of these for even suggesting this.
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You seem to have forgotten that it's not just about character issues anymore. He was terrible in Dallas... a total non-factor.
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Pacman Jones? Whats he ever done?

And he is only worth league minimum.
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LOL.

L-e-a-g-u-e M-i-n-i-m-u-m.

Cut him IN CAMP if he's not giving his all, or if things look bad.

I am the whitest, nerdiest, boy scout haircut, conservative republican, family-values guy on here. Or I am at least tied with a few of those on here. And I am saying: For the league minimum, and considering our defense and punt return duties, he's worth the league minimum.

Someone's going to do it. Why not?
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Someone's going to do it. Why not?
Ohhh, maybe because he cares more about carousing than football? Maybe because he would be a hindrance more than a help team-wise? There is always the fact that this liberal female who fllunked out of girl scouts doesn't like the guy which isn't worth anything but a fact nonetheless.
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Ask Cowboy fans what they think of PacMan? He wasn't that good of a corner after all. Forget the other stuff, he isn't that good anymore and he was on a good D in Dallas.
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I would rather go after Ken Lucas since he has been cut by the Panthers
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LOL.

L-e-a-g-u-e M-i-n-i-m-u-m.

Cut him IN CAMP if he's not giving his all, or if things look bad.

I am the whitest, nerdiest, boy scout haircut, conservative republican, family-values guy on here. Or I am at least tied with a few of those on here. And I am saying: For the league minimum, and considering our defense and punt return duties, he's worth the league minimum.

Someone's going to do it. Why not?
Here's the problem. What if he plays really well. He outplays Bennett and Molden and surplants JJ as the punt returner. So, he's going to make the roster and someone else (at his position) will get cut. Then, in November, he gets caught with drugs and is indefinitely suspended. Well, he only cost us $400,000 right? No, we also cut Fred Bennett and Jacoby Jones. Now, we don't have a punt returner and we're dangerously thin at CB. Meanwhile, Molden hasn't received many snaps because Pacman and Dunta have been on the field for every snap.
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Here's the problem. What if he plays really well. He outplays Bennett and Molden and surplants JJ as the punt returner. So, he's going to make the roster and someone else (at his position) will get cut. Then, in November, he gets caught with drugs and is indefinitely suspended. Well, he only cost us $400,000 right? No, we also cut Fred Bennett and Jacoby Jones. Now, we don't have a punt returner and we're dangerously thin at CB. Meanwhile, Molden hasn't received many snaps because Pacman and Dunta have been on the field for every snap.
Why would Fred be the one who is cut?

There's that guy named Jacques Reeves. Is Jacques Reeves better than PacMan? I don't think so.

Bring up one of our 2009 draft choices, from the practice squad, to replace him.

When was the last time you read PacMan being a menace to the team, in the locker room and with his teammates? The guys in Tennessee hated to see him go, but they knew he was living an off-the-field lifestyle that was bad for the team.

So...what if he's for real now?

League minimum sounds good to me.
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