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Old 03-09-2009   #1
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Anyone else worried that a number of draft analysts seem to be thinking Brian Cushing will be the Texans' first pick?

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Only started 16 games his first three years at Southern Cal...Missed nearly half of his freshman season with a shoulder injury and was held out of some of the following seasons spring drills while recuperating...Sat out most of spring practice in 2007 with a strained hamstring then had arthroscopic surgery on his left knee...Also missed extensive action during the 2007 season with an ankle injury...Broke a bone in his right hand in 2008 and played with a cast but didn't miss any games...Has played defensive end, outside linebacker and inside linebacker for the Trojans...Manufactured athlete who should test well but isn't that impressive on film and often looks like a defensive end in a linebacker's body...Is overrated as a pro prospect but has the talent to start at the next level if he can somehow find a way to stay healthy.

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Anyone else worried that a number of draft analysts seem to be thinking Brian Cushing will be the Texans' first pick?

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Has played defensive end, outside linebacker and inside linebacker for the Trojanshttp://www.draftcountdown.com/scouti...an-Cushing.php
That's what I'm buying....he can cover both OLB slots and add some pass rush. I think everyone is nit picking him to death. You saw USC play...what did you think ?
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Anyone else worried that a number of draft analysts seem to be thinking Brian Cushing will be the Texans' first pick?

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Only started 16 games his first three years at Southern Cal...Missed nearly half of his freshman season with a shoulder injury and was held out of some of the following seasons spring drills while recuperating...Sat out most of spring practice in 2007 with a strained hamstring then had arthroscopic surgery on his left knee...Also missed extensive action during the 2007 season with an ankle injury...Broke a bone in his right hand in 2008 and played with a cast but didn't miss any games...Has played defensive end, outside linebacker and inside linebacker for the Trojans...Manufactured athlete who should test well but isn't that impressive on film and often looks like a defensive end in a linebacker's body...Is overrated as a pro prospect but has the talent to start at the next level if he can somehow find a way to stay healthy.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scouti...an-Cushing.php
Yikes. 5 injuries? If he were already on the Texans roster people would be calling him injury prone. People think we need to use a first rounder to replace Diles because he had 1 injury, and they want a guy with a serious injury record?

Pass.

His analysis is pretty much what I feel about Cushing. The more I've watched him the less I like what I see. I think he is a fringe first rounder/early second, not a mid first.
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You saw USC play...what did you think ?
Well, USC's a hell of a team. Lots of contributors. But I've watched a number of Cushing's highlight videos and he doesn't exactly jump off the screen.

Just my opinion, of course. I was wrong about Mario. I was wrong about VY. Always a chance I'm wrong again...
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If we are going OLB, I still say we trade down and grab Clay Matthews.
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Ive seen mock drafts correctly pick Mario Williams and Andre Johnson. Thats about it.
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Default Re: Brian Cushing --- DO NOT WANT

I've been interested in Cushing for a while. The steroid allegations don't really concern me too much. I think they've been blown out of proportion and if he used steroids the last few years while at USC, I feel strongly he would have been busted.

What does concern me about Cushing is the history of his injuries. One report I read on him suggested he may be better suited to play MLB in the NFL and that may actually prolong his career. Instead of hitting into OL, TE and RBs dead on from playing outside, he would be able to take better angles on them and may not get injured as much.

He seems like the perfect SLB for our team though... but if he's going to continue to get injured playing there then that's not the wisest investment.
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Anyone else worried that a number of draft analysts seem to be thinking Brian Cushing will be the Texans' first pick?

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Only started 16 games his first three years at Southern Cal...Missed nearly half of his freshman season with a shoulder injury and was held out of some of the following seasons spring drills while recuperating...Sat out most of spring practice in 2007 with a strained hamstring then had arthroscopic surgery on his left knee...Also missed extensive action during the 2007 season with an ankle injury...Broke a bone in his right hand in 2008 and played with a cast but didn't miss any games...Has played defensive end, outside linebacker and inside linebacker for the Trojans...Manufactured athlete who should test well but isn't that impressive on film and often looks like a defensive end in a linebacker's body...Is overrated as a pro prospect but has the talent to start at the next level if he can somehow find a way to stay healthy.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scouti...an-Cushing.php
You can discard the freshman year injuries...he was a kid & his body probably hadn't even matured yet; that's the very reason many coaches redshirt their freshman.

ankle/foot injuries & strained hammies come with the territory of being a pro athlete & if you're going to worry about injuries like that, you might as worry about things like turf toe & concussions.

As u stated, the broken bone in his hand didn't slow him down 1 bit so....

The knee is the only thing to worry about, but these days it's sort of not. Everyone saw how Willis Mcgahee ripped up his in the NC game. Frank Gore had both his knees operated on in college. Look how both those guys are doing in the NFL. When you're young & in tip top shape your body can do some miraculous things.

He's certainly a gamble, but he proved last year that those things are behind him so....
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That's what I'm buying....he can cover both OLB slots and add some pass rush. I think everyone is nit picking him to death. You saw USC play...what did you think ?
I thought he was unimpressive. He never stood out or made big plays. IMO good consistant college LB, average PRO LB.
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I thought he was unimpressive. He never stood out or made big plays. IMO good consistant college LB, average PRO LB.
Taylor Mays didn't stand out or make many big plays last year either. What do you think of him?
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Taylor Mays didn't stand out or make many big plays last year either. What do you think of him?
I think when you play FS on a team that dominates the LOS you arent going to have the opportunity to make alot of plays. When you are a LB in that situation you should shine.
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I think when you play FS on a team that dominates the LOS you arent going to have the opportunity to make alot of plays. When you are a LB in that situation you should shine.
That's not a bad analysis. I could agree with that.

Nobody doubts that Mays is the most talented player on their defense, but I would like to see more production out of him next year. Until he proves me wrong, I consider Eric Berry to be the better safety of the two, but they are both top 10 talents in my book.
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Default Re: Brian Cushing --- DO NOT WANT

Well if not Cushing, whom do you propose? Im really curious as to what people think the Texans should draft. It passes time at work and its exciting.

I was big on another D-line man, but I think as long as they draft a defensive player with their 1st pick I will be satsified.
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That's not a bad analysis. I could agree with that.

Nobody doubts that Mays is the most talented player on their defense, but I would like to see more production out of him next year. Until he proves me wrong, I consider Eric Berry to be the better safety of the two, but they are both top 10 talents in my book.
Mays isn't the most talented player on their defense. He's the most athletic safety, but not even the best safety. Maualuga is better and so is Cushing.
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Well if not Cushing, whom do you propose? Im really curious as to what people think the Texans should draft. It passes time at work and its exciting.

I was big on another D-line man, but I think as long as they draft a defensive player with their 1st pick I will be satsified.
Personally, of the guys I expect to be available, I'd be fine with:
  • Cushing
  • Matthews
  • Jerry
  • Jenkins
  • Ayers
  • English
  • Maualaga
  • Sean Smith
  • Everette Brown


But I could give you reasons for each one of those guys why we shouldn't take them and several of them could be considered reaches.

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Well if not Cushing, whom do you propose? Im really curious as to what people think the Texans should draft. It passes time at work and its exciting.

I was big on another D-line man, but I think as long as they draft a defensive player with their 1st pick I will be satsified.
Michael Oher or perhaps Jerry?

Or maybe... Chris Wells?
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Mays isn't the most talented player on their defense. He's the most athletic safety, but not even the best safety. Maualuga is better and so is Cushing.
I think you might be in the minority on that one.
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Cush is a beast but I don't like all the 'roaids rumors
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Saw a few highlights on the dude and kind of laughed at them. Seems like alot of his tackles he had help. Clay 3 showed the ability to beat double teams.
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I'd only be excited about drafting Cushing if we got him in the 3rd round. He's too much of a workout boy that never really impressed me all that much on the field. He'd be a good 'effort guy' that has the right attitude for a linebacker but he isn't a early to mid first round prospect imo.
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