Trade JJ for Michael Bush? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

**SAMURAITEXAN** · 03-04-2009

I don't know much about Oakland situation with WR/kick off returner. But, I read somewhere that Oakland is using Michael Bush as a trade bait. Why not one on one trade? JJ may has some value to Raiders as a kick off returner and future young and fast WR to groom.

GO TEXANS!!

03-04-2009

I like it.

DiehardChris · 03-04-2009

I'd make deal that in a split second if I was Rick Smith.

Unfortunately, not even the Raiders are dumb enough to accept it. Bush is FAR FAR more valuable than JJ.

WesmanTexanfan · 03-04-2009

I would LOOVE for this to happen, I watched this kid fall to 100th overall in his draft. Louisville could have won it all if he hadn't have broken his Leg early in his senior season.

Silver Oak · 03-04-2009

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Originally Posted by DiehardChris

I'd make deal that in a split second if I was Rick Smith.

Unfortunately, not even the Raiders are dumb enough to accept it. Bush is FAR FAR more valuable than JJ.

maybe they feel they owe us one after the P-Buc deal?

Texecutioner · 03-04-2009

I would be all for this, but I'm sure Bush has more value than JJ.

However the Raiders have Fargas who is getting paid some cash and Mcfadden as well. They really don't need Bush that bad, so they might be willing to let him go for rather cheap.

Maybe JJ and a 5th rounder. If they say no, I would have no problem trading JJ and one of our 4th rounders.

Ole Miss Texan · 03-04-2009

I'd do that in a heartbeat.

Unfortunately, Oakland alrady has their Jacoby Jones in Johnny Lee Higgins. He's a young developing WR but is even better at KR/PR than Jacoby is. Raiders will not go for this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzL_X...eature=related

nunusguy · 03-04-2009

Is this our first Japanese Board member ? Welcome and I gotta second your idea, but I dunno if Big Al is in the market for a WR ?
BTW thanks for the Sushi, I love it and have it almost every Friday night !

03-04-2009

I don't think Bush has a whole lot more value than JJ if any.

D_Money85 · 03-04-2009

Yeah i wouldn't mind seeing this happen. Don't get me wrong i like JJ but i hate holding my breath everytime the ball is in his hands. Plus i hear his additude ain't the best. M Bush is a big bruser would play good behind slaton and being third string on the Rad. he won't play much

WesmanTexanfan · 03-04-2009

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner

I would be all for this, but I'm sure Bush has more value than JJ.

However the Raiders have Fargas who is getting paid some cash and Mcfadden as well. They really don't need Bush that bad, so they might be willing to let him go for rather cheap.

Maybe JJ and a 5th rounder. If they say no, I would have no problem trading JJ and one of our 4th rounders.

ya, this guy is exactly what we need too, a big brusing back with speed who can hit holes. I remember thinking he was a less agile Adrian Peterson in college, I saw him straight run over some people....

Texecutioner · 03-04-2009

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Originally Posted by nunusguy

Is this our first Japanese Board member ? Welcome and I gotta second your idea, but I dunno if Big Al is in the market for a WR ?
BTW thanks for the Sushi, I love it and have it almost every Friday night !

Why would the Raiders NOT be in the market for a WR? THey don't even currently have one right now. That is their BIGGEST NEED. That is exactly what they are in the market for. Hell, that is all that was talked about all year long last year was how Russell didn't have any weapons to throw to other than Zach Miller who is a TE. Miller was their best WR last season. The Raiders are one of the dumbest organizations in football and Al Davis loves getting a guy that is talented with speed.

**SAMURAITEXAN** · 03-04-2009

I believe I am the first Japanese Board Member and I've been around but I don't post much and just read what is going on with the Texans. The Raiders got one seems to be a legit young WR however, I can't recall young seems to be a legit WR other than Higgins. You can always use another one.

GO TEXANS!!

El Tejano · 03-04-2009

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner

Why would the Raiders NOT be in the market for a WR? THey don't even currently have one right now. That is their BIGGEST NEED. That is exactly what they are in the market for. Hell, that is all that was talked about all year long last year was how Russell didn't have any weapons to throw to other than Zach Miller who is a TE. Miller was their best WR last season. The Raiders are one of the dumbest organizations in football and Al Davis loves getting a guy that is talented with speed.

With Donald Curry gone, they may need another WR too. I think the sale to the Raiders would be the fact that JJ is a good PR because we can't sale them on his receiving stats.

Mike Kerns · 03-04-2009

I remember hoping we would pick up Michael Bush in the late rounds in the draft that year. I would love it if he came here. I think his career could take off in our scheme. Not buried behind McFadden & Fargas.

**HOU-TEX** · 03-04-2009

IIRC, a team already suggested a trade for Bush and the Raiders informed them that Bush was not going to be traded. I think it was a week or so ago.

Goldensilence · 03-04-2009

Raiders still have Javon Walker and will probably resign Jerry Porter since he got cut from the Jags. They also just let go of Ronald Curry so that might say how they feel about Johnny Lee Higgins. They're also poised to take a WR in the first or second round and Crabtree becomes a nice option since Housh signed w/ Seattle.

I think the Raiders would more likely want a draft pick and senile as Al is he'll want to improve on the 4th he invested to get Michael Bush. Realistically I'm seeing him wanting a third unless we can pair someone like a JJ to sweeten the deal with a 4th. PErsonally I think there is better value in the third for us to take a RB or BPA however, if Al just wanted a 4th straight up I'd do the deal in a heartbeat.

DiehardChris · 03-04-2009

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Originally Posted by Polo

I don't think Bush has a whole lot more value than JJ if any.

Jacoby Jones has ZERO value as a wide receiver right now. He's below DAVID ANDERSON on the depth chart! If he had any WR chops at all, he'd instantly a lot more valuable.

Hervoyel · 03-04-2009

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner

I would be all for this, but I'm sure Bush has more value than JJ.

However the Raiders have Fargas who is getting paid some cash and Mcfadden as well. They really don't need Bush that bad, so they might be willing to let him go for rather cheap.

Maybe JJ and a 5th rounder. If they say no, I would have no problem trading JJ and one of our 4th rounders.

I wouldn't even hesitate there. That would be just abour right if you ask me. Of course the Raiders wouldn't do that either but it's a great fantasy to toy with.

03-04-2009

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Originally Posted by DiehardChris

Jacoby Jones has ZERO value as a wide receiver right now. He's below DAVID ANDERSON on the depth chart! If he had any WR chops at all, he'd instantly a lot more valuable.

Michael Bush is third on his depth chart.....????

03-04-2009	#1
SAMURAITEXAN Subscribed Contributor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 2,800 Rep Power: 5955	Trade JJ for Michael Bush? I don't know much about Oakland situation with WR/kick off returner. But, I read somewhere that Oakland is using Michael Bush as a trade bait. Why not one on one trade? JJ may has some value to Raiders as a kick off returner and future young and fast WR to groom. GO TEXANS!!

03-04-2009	#2
Polo Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Trade JJ for Michael Bush? I like it.

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DiehardChris You betcha! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Back in Houston Posts: 3,808 Rep Power: 1066	Re: Trade JJ for Michael Bush? I'd make deal that in a split second if I was Rick Smith. Unfortunately, not even the Raiders are dumb enough to accept it. Bush is FAR FAR more valuable than JJ. __________________ www.HoustonDiehards.com

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WesmanTexanfan SeNior Smack Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Braeswood area Age: 26 Posts: 4,986 Rep Power: 158	Re: Trade JJ for Michael Bush? I would LOOVE for this to happen, I watched this kid fall to 100th overall in his draft. Louisville could have won it all if he hadn't have broken his Leg early in his senior season. __________________ new sig? Hakeem can stay Thanks Texan Rocky and Brando for the Avatar and Sig!

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Texecutioner Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 12,309 Rep Power: 29902	Re: Trade JJ for Michael Bush? I would be all for this, but I'm sure Bush has more value than JJ. However the Raiders have Fargas who is getting paid some cash and Mcfadden as well. They really don't need Bush that bad, so they might be willing to let him go for rather cheap. Maybe JJ and a 5th rounder. If they say no, I would have no problem trading JJ and one of our 4th rounders.

03-04-2009	#7
Ole Miss Texan Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8,633 Rep Power: 10804	Re: Trade JJ for Michael Bush? I'd do that in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, Oakland alrady has their Jacoby Jones in Johnny Lee Higgins. He's a young developing WR but is even better at KR/PR than Jacoby is. Raiders will not go for this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzL_X...eature=related __________________ #99 JJ Watt - Dream Big Work Hard Last edited by Ole Miss Texan; 03-04-2009 at 10:36 AM.

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nunusguy Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston Posts: 8,991 Rep Power: 183	Re: Trade JJ for Michael Bush? Is this our first Japanese Board member ? Welcome and I gotta second your idea, but I dunno if Big Al is in the market for a WR ? BTW thanks for the Sushi, I love it and have it almost every Friday night !

03-04-2009	#9
Polo Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Trade JJ for Michael Bush? I don't think Bush has a whole lot more value than JJ if any.

03-04-2009	#10
D_Money85 TEXAN4LIFE Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Houston Age: 27 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Re: Trade JJ for Michael Bush? Yeah i wouldn't mind seeing this happen. Don't get me wrong i like JJ but i hate holding my breath everytime the ball is in his hands. Plus i hear his additude ain't the best. M Bush is a big bruser would play good behind slaton and being third string on the Rad. he won't play much

03-04-2009	#13
SAMURAITEXAN Subscribed Contributor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 2,800 Rep Power: 5955	Re: Trade JJ for Michael Bush? I believe I am the first Japanese Board Member and I've been around but I don't post much and just read what is going on with the Texans. The Raiders got one seems to be a legit young WR however, I can't recall young seems to be a legit WR other than Higgins. You can always use another one. GO TEXANS!!

03-04-2009	#15
Mike Kerns Texans FC Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: West Houston Section: Up top. Age: 34 Posts: 2,644 Rep Power: 873	Re: Trade JJ for Michael Bush? I remember hoping we would pick up Michael Bush in the late rounds in the draft that year. I would love it if he came here. I think his career could take off in our scheme. Not buried behind McFadden & Fargas. __________________ Luv Ya Steel Blue: Texans Radio - Follow Me on Twitter - State of the Texans Last edited by Mike Kerns; 03-04-2009 at 10:49 AM. Reason: Name spelled incorrectly

03-04-2009	#16
HOU-TEX Ah, Football! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: P-land Age: 42 Posts: 14,149 Rep Power: 19780	Re: Trade JJ for Michael Bush? IIRC, a team already suggested a trade for Bush and the Raiders informed them that Bush was not going to be traded. I think it was a week or so ago. __________________ "We wanted to make a statement, run the ball and make them like it." - Duane Brown

03-04-2009	#17
Goldensilence Is this Sparta? Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Out of the desert finally... Age: 31 Posts: 5,026 Rep Power: 6218	Re: Trade JJ for Michael Bush? Raiders still have Javon Walker and will probably resign Jerry Porter since he got cut from the Jags. They also just let go of Ronald Curry so that might say how they feel about Johnny Lee Higgins. They're also poised to take a WR in the first or second round and Crabtree becomes a nice option since Housh signed w/ Seattle. I think the Raiders would more likely want a draft pick and senile as Al is he'll want to improve on the 4th he invested to get Michael Bush. Realistically I'm seeing him wanting a third unless we can pair someone like a JJ to sweeten the deal with a 4th. PErsonally I think there is better value in the third for us to take a RB or BPA however, if Al just wanted a 4th straight up I'd do the deal in a heartbeat.

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