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Old 03-03-2009   #1
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Default Lets trade the 15th pick and our 4th to the Patriots for......

Their 23rd pick and their lowest 2nd rounder
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and the Patriots want to do this why?
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Default Re: Lets trade the 15th pick and our 4th to the Patriots for......

that would work in Madden but in real life a mid-1st and 4th is not worth a 1st and 2nd...if we were to trade down it'd be more like going back 3-5 spots and picking up a late 3rd or 4th, similar to last year
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and the Patriots want to do this why?
I've seen a lot of projected trade scenarios where people are listing the Patriots as one of our potential trading partners..

This doesn't make any sense to me. The Patriots simply do not trade up to draft a player, they believe very strongly in their system and believe that they can make anyone fit within the scheme.

On top of that, Belichick apparently just turned down a first round pick for Cassel in favor of a second round pick. Either it's a conspiracy to help out his buddy in Kansas City or he really doesn't want to get locked up in the money that a top 15 pick requires.

Bottom line - the Patriots are not going to trade up, and it will definitely not be this year because of how weak the top half of the first round is.
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Default Re: Lets trade the 15th pick and our 4th to the Patriots for......

What do you guys think about the 15th pick for two of their 2nd rounders
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I've seen a lot of projected trade scenarios he really doesn't want to get locked up in the money that a top 15 pick requires.
This is exactly what it is. The Patriots are generally a smart savvy organization. They draft, trade and sign well. They're not a team I want our Texans doing business with.
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What do you guys think about the 15th pick for two of their 2nd rounders
This might help. Draft Value Chart.
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Default Re: Lets trade the 15th pick and our 4th to the Patriots for......

Based on the draft chart, Our 15th pick for the 33rd and 47th would be fair.

I think having 3 2nd rounders would be benefit the team to add more depth since we dont have any major holes.
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Lets trade our 7,6,5,4,4,3 for their two two's!

I get what you are trying to say but its not even a possibility. The Patriots just traded Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel for a 2nd round pick and you think they would trade it to us for a 4th rounder and swap of firsts???
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Deals like this almost never get made until the draft is under way. Why would NE trade up now when it is almost impossible to predict who will be available at 15? During the draft if they or any other team sees a player slide they might be inclined to move around. This thread should also probably be in the draft section.
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Yep...It's definitely that time of year....
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that would work in Madden but in real life a mid-1st and 4th is not worth a 1st and 2nd...if we were to trade down it'd be more like going back 3-5 spots and picking up a late 3rd or 4th, similar to last year
Last year we got a third for going from 18th to 26th. So 15th from 23rd would be comparable. I think a third would be realistic, and a late 2nd is close to the third.
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Default Re: Lets trade the 15th pick and our 4th to the Patriots for......

Actually an even trade would be our 1st and 5th round picks for their 1st and 2nd round picks. (not including the KC 2nd rd pick)

There could be a player they really covet that slips to 15. If they get scared he'd get taken in the next couple picks they may trade up. I don't know who that player is but if they came calling I would most likely take that trade. Depends who's on the board, but I'd give it a 90% chance that I'd take that deal.

Maybe they really like one of the USC LBs (Maualuga, Cushing, Matthews).
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Maybe they really like one of the USC LBs (Maualuga, Cushing, Matthews).

True enough, but I'm thinking we'd probably want one of those LBs ourselves. We don't need to draft a DE in the 1st round now. I'm thinking a safety or LB is what we take in the 1st round now. Just guessing though.
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True enough, but I'm thinking we'd probably want one of those LBs ourselves. We don't need to draft a DE in the 1st round now. I'm thinking a safety or LB is what we take in the 1st round now. Just guessing though.
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Good teams trade back, not up and the Pats are a good team.
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we would only make trades like that if we are not targeting ANyone ... are we targeting anyone ??? i dont think so i think we trade up IMO our 1st round
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