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**GlassHalfFull** · 02-23-2009

I heard this rumored at the chili cookoff yesterday. Now the Chronicle is reporting

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The Texans and Minnesota are close to completing a trade that would send quarterback Sage Rosenfels to the Vikings for a draft choice.

The Texans had no comment on the report.

This is the second year in a row in which the Vikings have been interested in acquiring Rosenfels as their starting quarterback. Rosenfels, who won six games in the last two seasons when replacing the injured Matt Schaub, is approaching the last year of his contract.

The Vikings have Tarvaris Jackson and Gus Frerotte on their roster. Jackson is a former second-round pick and Frerotte is a 14-year veteran.

Rosenfels, who grew up in Iowa and played at Iowa State, was hoping to be traded to the Vikings last year. Media reports said Minnesota offered a third-round draft choice, but the Texans wanted a second-round pick. Both teams denied an offer was made. The reason Rosenfels wants to be traded to the Vikings is that he would have a chance to start for a team that has Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor at running back and as has led the NFL in run defense for the last two years.

The additional undisclosed draft choice would give the Texans eight selections in the draft on April 25-26.

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TEXANRED · 02-23-2009

Rose to Vikes per Chron:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/6276358.html

On the radio this morning about Weaver, can't find any printable source.

Anyone else hear?

WolverineFan · 02-23-2009

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Originally Posted by GlassHalfFull

I heard this rumored at the chili cookoff yesterday. Now the Chronicle is reporting

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I doubt they will offer a 3rd round pick again this year. Sage took care of that himself.

**GlassHalfFull** · 02-23-2009

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Originally Posted by WolverineFan

I doubt they will offer a 3rd round pick again this year. Sage took care of that himself.

I was thinking 4th. I would say his value went down this season.

WolverineFan · 02-23-2009

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Originally Posted by GlassHalfFull

I was thinking 4th. I would say his value went down this season.

I agree.

**disaacks3** · 02-23-2009

It'd be nice if it was a 3rd rounder or higher, but I'm not gonna hold my breath.

2nd source? - Link

TimeKiller · 02-23-2009

I'll bet they take a 3rd this year...Pat White or Stephen McGee are the two names that come up as a replacement in the draft for a backup QB.

WolverineFan · 02-23-2009

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Originally Posted by TEXANRED

Rose to Vikes per Chron:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/6276358.html

On the radio this morning about Weaver, can't find any printable source.

Anyone else hear?

Haven't heard anything, but if this is true then that pretty much guarantees we are either signing a DE in FA or drafting one high (1st or 2nd round). Also gives us even more cap room to make a move in FA.

Ole Miss Texan · 02-23-2009

Holy Smokes!!

**drewmar74** · 02-23-2009

I can't find anything on Weaver.

Can we back that up somewhere? Not being a jackass, just want to read it!

02-23-2009

Excellent.

dalemurphy · 02-23-2009

I like to think of myself as an educated, rational fan. I've been against this deal because I think it's important to have a quality backup QB that the team believes in.

In the end, though, like any fan, I get goosebumps when I hear the potential for additional draft picks. So, I'm kinda on board with it now, even though I think it's questionable logic.

I guess if we can get a 3rd plus maybe a conditional mid-late round pick in 2010 (depending on his performance this season), we can make some good out of it. I'm all for getting McGee in the 5th round. What FA Qb do we go after to replace sage?

**Cjeremy635** · 02-23-2009

Honestly, I like Sage. I know he's a career backup, and he had a complete meltdown in the Indy game, but I'd hate to see him go. Shaub seems to get hurt a lot, and we don't have anyone here that already knows our system to step in (do we?) without a hickup. If we trade him, we'd better pickup someone fast, IMHO. I'm probably just over reacting, it could work out for the better. We bring in someone else who picks up the system fast, shines during his time given, and pushes Matt for the QB 1 spot. That would be a good scenario in my book.

rarazz00 · 02-23-2009

We still need a veteran backup who will understand he'll be the #2. I also believe if we lose Sage, we'll go 4th to 5th round on our future backup...Pat White/Steven McGee?

**drewmar74** · 02-23-2009

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Originally Posted by dalemurphy

What FA Qb do we go after to replace sage?

Surely, surely if they are going to trade Sage then they have a backup plan... right?

WolverineFan · 02-23-2009

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Originally Posted by dalemurphy

I like to think of myself as an educated, rational fan. I've been against this deal because I think it's important to have a quality backup QB that the team believes in.

In the end, though, like any fan, I get goosebumps when I hear the potential for additional draft picks. So, I'm kinda on board with it now, even though I think it's questionable logic.

I guess if we can get a 3rd plus maybe a conditional mid-late round pick in 2010 (depending on his performance this season), we can make some good out of it. I'm all for getting McGee in the 5th round. What FA Qb do we go after to replace sage?

I agree. We need a capable backup so I would only trade him for at least a 3rd round pick. White has looked great at the combine so far so I could see us taking him.

If we were to go after any FA QB to replace Sage I would want it to be Jeff Garcia, but from what I hear he still wants to be a starter.

Ole Miss Texan · 02-23-2009

I was for the trade last year (3rd rounder). Have Quinn Gray as your back up to lose those games Schaub missed. Now this season, I felt like Sage's value probably dropped too significantly to warrant a trade... that he'd probably have more value as our backup.

I love this time of year. Sage is great guy so I hope we can get something decent for him and he can be successful up in Minnesota!

J-Russ · 02-23-2009

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Glad Kubiak and Smith learned that Sage was not the answer as either a starter or back-up. I'll take a 4th for him, which I hope it is(or more).

4Texans · 02-23-2009

That's all fine and dandy if we can get a 3rd rd pick or so..... but we've got no one as a backup behind Matt. Any ideas on a FA who would come here to back him up????? I certainly wouldn't put all my eggs in a basket on a draft choice for this year....

dalemurphy · 02-23-2009

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Originally Posted by GlassHalfFull

I was thinking 4th. I would say his value went down this season.

You could argue his value went down, but also Minnesota's need went up after they had to go with Gus Frerrote most of last season.

I'm thinking we get a 3rd in '09 and something between a 4th-7th in 2010 as a conditional pick based on how many starts he has.

02-23-2009	#6
disaacks3 Site Contributor Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Spring, TX Section: 116 - Row M Age: 44 Posts: 8,925 Rep Power: 31254	Re: Weaver cut and Rosencopter to Vikes? It'd be nice if it was a 3rd rounder or higher, but I'm not gonna hold my breath. 2nd source? - Link __________________ Adopt-a-Texan 2012 - Ben Tate

02-23-2009	#7
TimeKiller Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: This giant tree, standing 10,000 ft. high but not reaching the ground. It's roots must hold the sky. Section: 521/Couch Age: 26 Posts: 7,648 Rep Power: 0	Re: Weaver cut and Rosencopter to Vikes? I'll bet they take a 3rd this year...Pat White or Stephen McGee are the two names that come up as a replacement in the draft for a backup QB.

02-23-2009	#9
Ole Miss Texan Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8,632 Rep Power: 10804	Re: Weaver cut and Rosencopter to Vikes? Holy Smokes!! __________________ #99 JJ Watt - Dream Big Work Hard

02-23-2009	#10
drewmar74 disgruntled Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bayou Country Age: 38 Posts: 4,838 Rep Power: 1183	Re: Weaver cut and Rosencopter to Vikes? I can't find anything on Weaver. Can we back that up somewhere? Not being a jackass, just want to read it! __________________ The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results - Albert Einstein

02-23-2009	#11
Polo Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Weaver cut and Rosencopter to Vikes? Excellent.

02-23-2009	#2
TEXANRED Texan-American Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 37 Posts: 5,961 Rep Power: 12236	Rosencopter to Vikes? Rose to Vikes per Chron: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/6276358.html On the radio this morning about Weaver, can't find any printable source. Anyone else hear? __________________ I am in an abusive relationship with life and I am to cowardly to leave it. - Homer Simpson.

02-23-2009	#12
dalemurphy Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: Austin Section: Bullpen/ 636 Age: 39 Posts: 5,165 Rep Power: 10996	Re: Weaver cut and Rosencopter to Vikes? I like to think of myself as an educated, rational fan. I've been against this deal because I think it's important to have a quality backup QB that the team believes in. In the end, though, like any fan, I get goosebumps when I hear the potential for additional draft picks. So, I'm kinda on board with it now, even though I think it's questionable logic. I guess if we can get a 3rd plus maybe a conditional mid-late round pick in 2010 (depending on his performance this season), we can make some good out of it. I'm all for getting McGee in the 5th round. What FA Qb do we go after to replace sage?

02-23-2009	#13
Cjeremy635 Overtraining Join Date: May 2005 Location: Huffman, Texas Age: 35 Posts: 7,649 Rep Power: 28643	Re: Weaver cut and Rosencopter to Vikes? Honestly, I like Sage. I know he's a career backup, and he had a complete meltdown in the Indy game, but I'd hate to see him go. Shaub seems to get hurt a lot, and we don't have anyone here that already knows our system to step in (do we?) without a hickup. If we trade him, we'd better pickup someone fast, IMHO. I'm probably just over reacting, it could work out for the better. We bring in someone else who picks up the system fast, shines during his time given, and pushes Matt for the QB 1 spot. That would be a good scenario in my book.

02-23-2009	#14
rarazz00 VOLUME 10 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Houston Posts: 228 Rep Power: 113	Re: Weaver cut and Rosencopter to Vikes? We still need a veteran backup who will understand he'll be the #2. I also believe if we lose Sage, we'll go 4th to 5th round on our future backup...Pat White/Steven McGee? __________________ LESS WISHBONE/MORE BACKBONE Last edited by rarazz00; 02-23-2009 at 12:30 PM.

02-23-2009	#17
Ole Miss Texan Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8,632 Rep Power: 10804	Re: Sage to the Vikings - 2009 version I was for the trade last year (3rd rounder). Have Quinn Gray as your back up to lose those games Schaub missed. Now this season, I felt like Sage's value probably dropped too significantly to warrant a trade... that he'd probably have more value as our backup. I love this time of year. Sage is great guy so I hope we can get something decent for him and he can be successful up in Minnesota! __________________ #99 JJ Watt - Dream Big Work Hard

02-23-2009	#18
J-Russ Hall of Fame Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,655 Rep Power: 39	Re: Weaver cut and Rosencopter to Vikes? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Glad Kubiak and Smith learned that Sage was not the answer as either a starter or back-up. I'll take a 4th for him, which I hope it is(or more).

02-23-2009	#19
4Texans Hall of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,041 Rep Power: 45	Re: Sage to the Vikings - 2009 version That's all fine and dandy if we can get a 3rd rd pick or so..... but we've got no one as a backup behind Matt. Any ideas on a FA who would come here to back him up????? I certainly wouldn't put all my eggs in a basket on a draft choice for this year.... __________________ Born and raised a Texan... How 'bout you?

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