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Old 02-21-2009   #1
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INDIANAPOLIS - Alabama offensive tackle Andre Smith continued to tumble in the eyes of NFL coaches and executives when he couldn't be located Saturday morning to participate in the workouts for linemen.

That follows the bad reviews Smith got from coaches from Alabama and the perception that he did a poor job of interviewing with the media and teams. Smith turned off several coaches when he told them he wasn't participating in the workout because he started training late.

"The kid is killing himself," a source close to Smith said. "He basically told the NFL people he's lazy. This is incredible. ... It doesn't matter if you're ready or not. You at least show up at the workouts and watch."

Some draft analysts had projected Smith, a junior, as a possible No. 1 overall pick in April. Concerns about his character started to surface in a serious way when Alabama head coach Nick Saban kicked him off the team before the Sugar Bowl.

Smith was rumored to be involved with the representative of an agent before the game, a violation of NCAA and NFL Players Association rules. When Alabama turned the issue over to a lawyer who is on retainer with the school to investigate possible violations, Smith initially turned over his bank records but then refused to turn over his phone records, according to two sources.

Saban deemed that a violation of team rules and dismissed Smith, who then turned pro after the bowl game. NFL coaches have been in contact with Alabama officials since then and have not heard good reports on Smith's character, a source said.

Despite so much time off, Smith has gotten out of shape in the view of NFL types.

As one scout put it Friday: "Just another guy who doesn't get it."

According to Smith's agent, Alvin Keels, Smith subsequently flew to Atlanta on Saturday for a workout with a private trainer and is not expected back in Indianapolis.
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Does he not like money?...
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The type of guy that could break a team's heart with the character issues, but he has the potential to be a perennial all pro.
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I wouldn't touch the kid. Sounds like he's ready for his NFL payday and thats all he cares about
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Default Re: Alabama's Andre Smith plummeting

Sounds like the guy wants the pay without having to do the work.
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Sounds like the guy wants the pay without having to do the work.
AND he wasn't smart enough to do some work to get a really big payday before going into rest mode. Lazy AND not very smart.
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Default Re: Alabama's Andre Smith plummeting

I wonder how far he'll eventually fall? Out of the first round possibly?
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Default Re: Alabama's Andre Smith plummeting

We might see something worse than Alan Branch here.
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Default Re: Alabama's Andre Smith plummeting

I moved him from my #3 OT to #4 just based on the events of the last couple of days. He also fell from my #8 overall to #14.

I know one thing though, I wouldn't want this guy on my team if I were a player.

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I wouldn't touch the kid. Sounds like he's ready for his NFL payday and thats all he cares about
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I wonder how far he'll eventually fall? Out of the first round possibly?
Doubt it. On the field he is the best OL prospect in the draft. Some team (probably in the top half of the 1st round) will think that they can be the ones to overcome/correct/harness his immaturity.
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Doubt it. On the field he is the best OL prospect in the draft. Some team (probably in the top half of the 1st round) will think that they can be the ones to overcome/correct/harness his immaturity.
I doubt he'd get past Oakland.
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Doubt it. On the field he is the best OL prospect in the draft. Some team (probably in the top half of the 1st round) will think that they can be the ones to overcome/correct/harness his immaturity.
Agreed - I'm guessing that if he can put together even a close to average pro day/individual workout, he'll go before the Texans pick.
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I saw his interview Friday about the Bowl Game, and thought the kid just doesn't get it. He has had 2 months to come up with a story and he did not have one. Plus he was kicked off the team for being involved with and agent and he just now gets one, a couple of weeks before the combine? Kid is just that an immature kid. I would not want to be the team paying him millions.
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Maybe going pro isn't in his head...Don't know what is. If he loves football, he should have been ready for this moment. GM's and coaches see "red flags" when this sort of thing happens...although maybe he didn't want to go to Detroit or St. Louis
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He'll still go top 14.
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He'll still go top 14.
Good for the Texans if he does.
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Default Re: Alabama's Andre Smith plummeting

Small thing here but the article said he got kicked off the team... I thought Sabin just suspended him for the bowl game.

Anyways, I think some things just get blown out of proportion sometimes. This may make his draft stock drop a bit but the bottom line is he's still one of the best OL prospects this year. He doesn't seem like a high risk, off the field kind of guy regarding drugs, guns, violence, etc.

Some of his recent actions are really just weird, he is wasting himself a lot of money. But he definitely has a place on any number of NFL teams and should still get drafted in the top 10. Lots of teams need OT help. Maybe he doesn't go 2 but he'll go in the top half of the 1st.

We need him to go before us so another guy falls.
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Default Re: Alabama's Andre Smith plummeting

If he fell to 15 I am confident Gibbs will break him down one way or another. He'd either become the OL he is capable of or he'd have a mental breakdown from all the screaming coming his way.
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I wouldn't touch the kid. Sounds like he's ready for his NFL payday and thats all he cares about
He isn't even ready for his NFL payday!
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