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Old 02-19-2009   #1
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Expect Peppers to be franchised within a couple of hours...

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How can they afford to sign Gross and franchise Peppers?
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I read that they saved eight or nine million by guaranteeing a big chunk of Chris Gamble's contract, which they can spread out over the next few years. They'll probably have to make a cut or three along the way, too. This Gantt guy says that cap room is not much of an issue at all.
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Peppers just got tagged.

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At 17 million for one year, that's just taking things to a new level of moronic.
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At 17 million for one year, that's just taking things to a new level of moronic.
How so? If you're the Panthers do you just let him walk and not get anything in return?
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Default Re: Jordan Gross signs

Like Mailman stated, Peppers has no desire to play in Carolina. He will be traded, and recieve compensation in return.
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He's not worth 2 1st's, not that anybody is implying that he is. Also Peppers can now tell any team that wants him, that if Carolina was willing to offer me 17 million for a year, why aren't you?

I don't think he gets trade at this point.

How many taggeed players have been traded in NFL history? I can only recall 1.
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He's not worth 2 1st's, not that anybody is implying that he is. Also Peppers can now tell any team that wants him, that if Carolina was willing to offer me 17 million for a year, why aren't you?

I don't think he gets trade at this point.

How many taggeed players have been traded in NFL history? I can only recall 1.
He will get traded. I don't see any other way around it for Carolina. They're probably gonna have to take less in trade value than they otherwise would get now that he's made it clear he has a very short list of teams to play for.
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He will get traded. I don't see any other way around it for Carolina. They're probably gonna have to take less in trade value than they otherwise would get now that he's made it clear he has a very short list of teams to play for.
Who would want to give up draft picks, or players, and be forced to sign him to the richest defensive contract in the NFL?

Carolina may not get top dollar for the trade, but Peppers will get top dollar in his contract.
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Who would want to give up draft picks, or players, and be forced to sign him to the richest defensive contract in the NFL?

Carolina may not get top dollar for the trade, but Peppers will get top dollar in his contract.
Considering the importance of having an impact player at his position, I think there are teams who would be willing to pay the man. See the Vikings, Jared Allen.
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Considering the importance of having an impact player at his position, I think there are teams who would be willing to pay the man. See the Vikings, Jared Allen.
Allen was 25 (at the time of the trade), not Peppers' 30 (today is his birthday); slight difference, no?
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Allen was 25 (at the time of the trade), not Peppers' 30 (today is his birthday); slight difference, no?
Peppers turned 29 last month. I really don't think there's a huge difference because there are ample examples of stud DEs who played well into their thirties.
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If a team traded for him wouldn't they have to give him a new contract that isn't a 17 Million dollar one. If not, I don't see any team having any interest in paying anyone money like that. They would be crazy. Maybe the Raiders, but that is about it.
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If a team traded for him wouldn't they have to give him a new contract that isn't a 17 Million dollar one. If not, I don't see any team having any interest in paying anyone money like that. They would be crazy. Maybe the Raiders, but that is about it.
Surely they'd have to work out a new contract that would make him the highest-paid defensive player, but it worked out for the Vikings last year.

FWIW it's probably not *all* about the money or else he would've signed a new contract with the Panthers.

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If a team traded for him wouldn't they have to give him a new contract that isn't a 17 Million dollar one. If not, I don't see any team having any interest in paying anyone money like that. They would be crazy. Maybe the Raiders, but that is about it.
A second team negotiates an offer sheet. Either Peppers signs that and Carolina has 7 days to match or if they decline they get two 1sts, or the 2nd team goes to Carolina and tries to negotiate a lessor compensation while the offer sheet is in place but un-signed. Either way, a deal with the second team is what starts the ball rolling.
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I'm sure Gross is thanking Peppers for the way he has handled his status with the Panthers. Gross had to figure they would concentrate on working out a contract with him pretty quick, and be forced to tag Peppers.
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