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Old 02-07-2009   #1
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Okay to start off, I think everyone at first glance will completely squash the idea of Maclin in the 1st round. We all (myself especially) would rather see a defensive player at this spot since there are needs literally everywhere. However, the closer we get to the draft (still what... 77 days 1 hour 47 minutes and 51 seconds away but who's counting?)... the closer we get the more clear about which prospects have risen, which have dropped and everything becomes clear as mud. We're still a ways away but we're closer than we were last month.

So now that we have that out of the way, in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Houston Texans select Jeremy Maclin, Wide Receiver from Missouri. "Boooo" go the JETS fans, "Boooo" go the Texans fans, "What IDIOTS!!!" go the ESPN analysts. "I'm selling my season tickets!!!" go the Texans fans that don't actually sell their season tickets.

Here's my thinking on this. Our NEED positions while sitting at #15?
DE- All the top pass rushers are 3-4 OLBs with the "possibility" of being 4-3DE in the pros. Orakpo, Brown, Maybin, etc? Michael Johnson seems like the most protypical 4-3 DE to me but he has huge question marks. Not to mention most of these guys will be gone so even if one/two were available, he might not be "our guy" or a fit for our team.
DT- BJ Raji is pretty much a lock to be gone before us with all the 3-4 teams needing a NT. I think he'd be even better as a 4-3 NT but we won't get him. Peria Jerry is a possibility but isn't the run stuffing NT we all want.
OLB- Maualuga? could be available but probably gone. Aaron Curry- gone, Brian Cushing? Sounds great to me but there's huge question marks concerning his injuries and his obsessiveness with eating correctly and counting calories. As a scout told LZ, "I want a LB that will drink a beer and get in a fight." That's not Cushing.
CB- Malcolm Jenkins- gone. Vontae Davis? Maybe gone could be the pick here. Will Dunta come back?
S- doesn't look like a safety is worth this pick.
RB- Moreno is my guy, I don't like Wells
C/OG- not at 15.

Enter WR Jeremy Maclin. Kubiak loves playmakers and gamechangers. Think of him as a Bigger, Faster, Better Reggie Bush. Slaton is a runningback with a good ability to catch out of the backfield. Bush is more of a receiver that can line up in the backfield. Maclin is the same but a better WR, Slaton will stay in at RB. My thinking is there may not be a defensive player that will be better or do more for our team than Maclin. I think Kubiak will watch this kid and be floored. Please note that I love Andre and Walter. We will be running more 3 WR sets with AJ, KW and JM. Maclin will take over KR and PR duties- Jacoby is off the team. The possibilities with this kid are endless and will be the biggest playmaker in the draft, bar none. He kind of reminds me of Steve Smith from Carolina. Imagine Andre and Smith paired up with Walter being the possession WR!?

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Our offense will be so prolific it isn't even funny. We'll be able to score with any given snap of the ball. The only problem I see is that we'll score so fast, our defense won't have as much time to rest Oh yea another problem, Al Davis will take him at #7. Russell has a HUGE arm and Maclin can get downfield. He wants a playmaker to team up with McFadden.
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http://thehuddlereport.com/ppSD/prot...emy.Maclin.htm

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Jeremy Maclin WR/ST Missouri

STRENGTHS

Jeremy is an offensive coordinator's dream come true. He is an excellent WR with quickness, speed and the hands to catch the ball in hurricane-like winds. He is smart and understands situational football. He can read defense and runs excellent routes. He can beat man-to-man deep and is strong enough and quick enough to handle the bump and run. He is a very smart zone receiver and is a QB's best friend during a game. Jeremy can break the big play at anytime during a game and will come up with the big catch every time you need it during a game or to win a game. Add to this his ability to impact on special teams and you have a very special football player.

NEEDS TO IMPROVE

As long as Jeremy keeps working as hard as he does right now, there is nothing he will not be able to accomplish on the football field. It's all up to him and there is no doubt in my mind that he will.

TALENT BOARD ROUND 1

There are a lot of good WR's in the draft and you have to rate Jeremy as one of the best or maybe the best. He is ready for the big time and his LTI (length to impact) is quicker or just as good as Crabtree's. If a team decides to pick him ahead of Crabtree, I would not be surprised. He is that good. If the Indianapolis Colts drafted this kid, he would make the fans forget Marvin Harrison. That's how good this kid can be. He is a different style WR than Crabtree, so he might fit a team better than Crabtree, which would be the difference. However, both players should be outstanding WR's for the teams that draft them. If I had to choose between them, I would pick the player who better fits the offense I run. Is it a run after the catch offense or more vertical or spread? That is the only way I could choose between them, but once I made the choice, I would never look back because both players are going to be impact franchise WR's for the teams that draft them. I call him Jeremy (Son of a B@#$%) Maclin because every time Jeremy makes a play the opposing coach will be saying "Son of a B@#$%!" as Jeremy scores
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And here's how I would make this work out.

Free Agency- re-sign Dunta. Pick up FA NT/DT (Bernard, Cody, Haye, etc)and OLB (Dansby-may get tagged?, Boley is RFA?, can Bart Scott be a SLB?) Pick up a DT and OLB roughly equivalent factor of like a Kevin Bentley signing.

1st round- Jeremy Maclin - WR - Mizzou (6'1, 200 lbs) - playmaker, takes offense from #3 to #1 elite
2nd round- Sean Smith - S/CB - Utah (6'3, 214 lbs) - versatile DB, can take over safety and is able to cover
3rd round- Elvis Dumervil - trade 3rd rounder for pass rushing terror Doom - there will be no better prospect available. Elvis will be able to get after the QB on day 1 better than any player we could select in the draft, is only 25 years old
4th round-7th rounds- Look for RB to pair with Slaton (Gartrell Johnson, James Davis, Andre Brown, Rashad Jennings, Jerimiah Johnson, Kory Sheets, Chris Ogbanaya, Marlon Lucky). Also look for C/OG depth, as well as defensive depth and potential.

Offense:
QB- Schaub, Rosenfels
RB- Slaton, Moats, Rookie(G. Johnson- Col. St.)
FB- Leach, Sapp
TE- Daniels, Dreesen
WRs- Andre, Walter, Maclin, Davis, Anderson
OT- Brown, Winston, Butler, Salaam
OG- Pitts, Brisiel, Studdard, Rookie
C- Myers, White

Defense:
DE- Mario, Dumervil, Weaver?, Bulman, Nading
DT- Okoye, Free Agent, TJ, D. Robinson, F. Okam
LB- Demeco, Adibi, Bentley, Free Agent, Diles, Coley
CB- Dunta, Reeves, Bennett, Molden, Faggins
S- Sean Smith, Wilson, Ferguson, Barber, Harrison

Special Teams:
K- Kris Brown
P- Matt Turk (or pick up Shane Lechler)
LS- Brian Pittman
KR/PR- Jeremy Maclin (both), Andre Davis (KR only)
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dude... you just conducted your own funeral...
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dude... you just conducted your own funeral...
I'm tired of the same song second verse in talking about what we need to do with our 1st this year. Time to spice things up a bit.

I'm pretty sure I put ligher fluid on my casket too
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And here's how I would make this work out.

Free Agency- re-sign Dunta. Pick up FA NT/DT (Bernard, Cody, Haye, etc)and OLB (Dansby-may get tagged?, Boley is RFA?, can Bart Scott be a SLB?) Pick up a DT and OLB roughly equivalent factor of like a Kevin Bentley signing.

1st round- Jeremy Maclin - WR - Mizzou (6'1, 200 lbs) - playmaker, takes offense from #3 to #1 elite
2nd round- Sean Smith - S/CB - Utah (6'3, 214 lbs) - versatile DB, can take over safety and is able to cover
3rd round- Elvis Dumervil - trade 3rd rounder for pass rushing terror Doom - there will be no better prospect available. Elvis will be able to get after the QB on day 1 better than any player we could select in the draft, is only 25 years old
4th round-7th rounds- Look for RB to pair with Slaton (Gartrell Johnson, James Davis, Andre Brown, Rashad Jennings, Jerimiah Johnson, Kory Sheets, Chris Ogbanaya, Marlon Lucky). Also look for C/OG depth, as well as defensive depth and potential.

Offense:
QB- Schaub, Rosenfels
RB- Slaton, Moats, Rookie(G. Johnson- Col. St.)
FB- Leach, Sapp
TE- Daniels, Dreesen
WRs- Andre, Walter, Maclin, Davis, Anderson
OT- Brown, Winston, Butler, Salaam
OG- Pitts, Brisiel, Studdard, Rookie
C- Myers, White

Defense:
DE- Mario, Dumervil, Weaver?, Bulman, Nading
DT- Okoye, Free Agent, TJ, D. Robinson, F. Okam
LB- Demeco, Adibi, Bentley, Free Agent, Diles, Coley
CB- Dunta, Reeves, Bennett, Molden, Faggins
S- Sean Smith, Wilson, Ferguson, Barber, Harrison

Special Teams:
K- Kris Brown
P- Matt Turk (or pick up Shane Lechler)
LS- Brian Pittman
KR/PR- Jeremy Maclin (both), Andre Davis (KR only)
IF we got all these guys, I love your pick. But I just don't see it happening. Maclin would be fun to watch there is no doubt about it.
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dude... you just conducted your own funeral...
Posted this in another thread, fits better here.


I dont know guys. I could see us drafting Maclin in the 1st. Dont want it but could see it happening. Remember there were reports that Ted Gin Jr was our guy but the Dolphins beat us to him the year we drafted Okoye. In 2002 Denver drafted Ashley Lelie (a speedy WR similar to Maclin) while they already had Pro bowler Rod Smith and a solid #2 WR in Ed McCaffrey. This is while Kubiack and Smith were there. So dont be so quick to mock the mocks that dont follow YOURE guidlines. What we want as fans isnt necesarilly what Smithiack wants.

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Well how about a report from LZ.

After my last entry regarding Michael Crabtree, the topic of whether or not the Texans should consider drafting a WR in the first round was raised in the comments section.

To answer this question for the Texans or any team, you have to first assess the group of wide receivers in terms of talent and their contract status:

• Andre Johnson is a stud and is locked up as your #1 WR.

• Kevin Walter is a very capable #2 who is also active in the Texans run blocking for the zone scheme. He has one year left on his deal, but the Texans will probably extend him.

• David Anderson showed he was a decent slot WR, but he lacks vertical speed and is on the small side. He is not a lock to be a #3 WR in the league, but will do what you ask of him. He might be a better #4 WR who gets on the field in certain packages.

• Andre' Davis was a disappointment this year, but readers know that I was not a big fan of what the Texans paid for him. Davis had 13 catches and was not a game-breaker as a kick returner like he was in 2007. He could be replaced, but with a mid-round draft pick. Davis' signing bonus makes it more expensive to cut him than to keep him at this point.

• Jacoby Jones showed game-changing ability in the punt return game, but was not a factor as a WR. He's getting paid too much to just be a punt returner.

In conclusion: Are the Texans in desperate need of a #1 WR? No. Are they in desperate need of a #2 WR? No. Could the Texans use another quality WR with speed who can also return punts or kicks? Yes. The player who fits into this mold is Jeremy Maclin from Missouri. While I'm not saying he will be a priority, he is the type of WR the Texans could take a look at as a surprise first-round pick thanks to his abilities in the return game.


So if we cant trade down (very good chance we wont be able) and all the impact D players are gone (likely) Then I could easily see Maclin as BPA. In this case I would take him without hesitation.
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This seven round mock actually have us taking him.. But they have us taking mostly defense the rest of the way.

http://www.nfldraftsite.com/

1. Jeremy Maclin** WR 6'0" 198 Missouri
2. Paul Kruger** DE 6'5" 265 Utah
3. Nic Harris S 6'3" 224 Oklahoma
4. Brandon Underwood CB 6'1" 189 Cincinnati
5. Rhett Bomar QB 6'2" 216 Sam Houston State
6. Jonathan Casillas OLB 6'1" 226 Wisconsin
7. George Hypolite DT 6'1" 285 Colorado

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il pass.. nothing against maclin but walter is more than adequate as a 2nd wr.

i think id nearly garuntee right now that one of maybin, everette brown or orakpo will land at 15 and we'll take them. it's the only play im seeing right now where need meets value bar a trade down for a safety etc.

im pretty confident dunta will be back so we wont go corner.

we wont go LB imo because they like our 3 guys right now and diles is looking at an early return (plus bentley is a fine backup).. might pick one up later but not at 15

right now theres not a safety worth pick 15

we're not going with one of the LT's and moving duane

i dont think theres a C/G worth 15 but this may be an option if some prospect emerges

raji is the only NT worth 15 and he'll be gone

and we're not going to go skill position at 15 either leaving DE as the only option
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I could see this scenario with us picking Robert Ayers or Paul krueger, both
4-3 DEs, in the second round.
If MacClin is on the Board at #15 he very likely would be the BPA.
For a comparable I'd look to Ted Ginn with Miami.
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Remember there were reports that Ted Gin Jr was our guy but the Dolphins beat us to him the year we drafted Okoye. In 2002 Denver drafted Ashley Lelie (a speedy WR similar to Maclin) while they already had Pro bowler Rod Smith and a solid #2 WR in Ed McCaffrey. This is while Kubiack and Smith were there.

Kevin Walter is a very capable #2 who is also active in the Texans run blocking for the zone scheme. He has one year left on his deal, but the Texans will probably extend him.



Jacoby Jones showed game-changing ability in the punt return game, but was not a factor as a WR. He's getting paid too much to just be a punt returner.
yeah that 3rd rd pick is really tying up our cap

we may have been looking at ginn but that was before we realised what we had with walter. we werent looking at a wr last yr and we wont be again this year

mccaffrey was old. lelie was brought in to replace him. walter has alot of football left in him. thats why we wont be taking a wr right there.

and while we dont have any set no.3 thats really because we dont use that much 3 wr sets compared to alot of teams (another reason we wont take him).. and all the other guys come up with plays when they're needed.. AD (v miami), DA (v GB)
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Ted Ginn Jr. is a good comparison too. But Maclin's size (6'1, 200lbs) makes me like him that much more vs. Ginn (5'11, 180 lbs).

Dumervil trade is highly unlikely, just a fantasy of mine. Ayers or Krueger would be excellent picks in the 2nd round in that situation.

I think Maclin is a guy that forces you to have 3 WR sets more.
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Ted Ginn Jr. is a good comparison too. But Maclin's size (6'1, 200lbs) makes me like him that much more vs. Ginn (5'11, 180 lbs).

Dumervil trade is highly unlikely, just a fantasy of mine. Ayers or Krueger would be excellent picks in the 2nd round in that situation.

I think Maclin is a guy that forces you to have 3 WR sets more.
dumervil does look unlikely given he seems to fit the 3-4 mold also but what about the guy he splitting time with jarvis moss? he seemed like a pretty good rusher coming out of college. got injured. also vernon gholston who seems to be a bad fit for the jets 3-4 (although his contract probably means hes untradeable). they're 2 guys id trade a 3rd to see what they could do in some new scenery (if this were madden)
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yeah that 3rd rd pick is really tying up our cap

we may have been looking at ginn but that was before we realised what we had with walter. we werent looking at a wr last yr and we wont be again this year

mccaffrey was old. lelie was brought in to replace him. walter has alot of football left in him. thats why we wont be taking a wr right there.

and while we dont have any set no.3 thats really because we dont use that much 3 wr sets compared to alot of teams (another reason we wont take him).. and all the other guys come up with plays when they're needed.. AD (v miami), DA (v GB)
3rd round money for someone who does nothing else but return punts is too much.

Ok name any WR from last years draft that is comparible to Maclin.
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If Orakpo is gone and Rey Rey is too, I would just take Maclin. No defensive player we need is worth a top 20 pick

Maybin and Brown are pass rush specialists, not guys that can hold down the end.
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3rd round money for someone who does nothing else but return punts is too much.

Ok name any WR from last years draft that is comparible to Maclin.

we're paying guys alot more to just stand on the sidelines...

off the top of my head.. desean jackson, donnie avery, eddie royal, dexter jackson
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If Orakpo is gone and Rey Rey is too, I would just take Maclin. No defensive player we need is worth a top 20 pick

Maybin and Brown are pass rush specialists, not guys that can hold down the end.
i think both could be everydown 4-3 de's.. brown sooner than maybin. we need pass rushers with explosive 1st steps not more strongside de's
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I would not mind, but with all things it depends on whos there. If it came between Maclin and reaching for a defensive player, I'd take Maclin
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we're paying guys alot more to just stand on the sidelines...

Yep and if we can upgrade them in the draft we should.

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None of the players you mention were in the same class as Maclin at this point in his career. If they were they would of been picked in the first round.
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I would not mind, but with all things it depends on whos there. If it came between Maclin and reaching for a defensive player, I'd take Maclin
Exactly! We cant afford to reach on a player with our first pick. We need quality production from that spot. If we cant trade down and all the impact D players are gone why not upgrade the O? Thats all Im sayin.
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