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Old 02-05-2009   #61
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You DO cheat. LenWhale cuts in line at the meals all the time.
I was thinking more along the lines of: with every breath and exhale, a certain owner cheats a deserving human of clean air


but that is just me
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You DO cheat. LenWhale cuts in line at the meals all the time.
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You DO cheat. LenWhale cuts in line at the meals all the time.
Haha, and goes back for seconds before everyone has been through. Good one

OK, we'll take it another step. At least when we cheat we win more than we lose!
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Pay them their money so everyone can get over it. Get back to football. The NFL cheats teams out of Super Bowls all the time.
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Pay them their money so everyone can get over it. Get back to football. The NFL cheats teams out of Super Bowls all the time.
Still bitter the Steelers won huh?
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Haha, and goes back for seconds before everyone has been through. Good one

OK, we'll take it another step. At least when we cheat we win more than we lose!
Thats true. We cant even cheat well. At least Bud Adams isnt our owner.

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Still bitter the Steelers won huh?
I've been bitter with the Steelers since 1978!
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Haha, and goes back for seconds before everyone has been through. Good one

OK, we'll take it another step. At least when we cheat we win more than we lose!
And end up with the same result as us when it comes to Super Bowls.
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OK, we'll take it another step. At least when we cheat we win more than we lose!
Maybe y'all should have cheated against Baltimore then...
 
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This isn't the first time this has happened with the Texans, and I doubt it will be the last. In fact, I believe that Aaron Glenn's complaints as player rep about the same activity was a factor in his falling out with the Texans.

That being said, other teams do the same thing. If the Texans really want to be a place that is known to be a "good place to play" for free agents, maybe they should learn from this and abide by the agreement. I doubt they will, even though it must have very minimal benefits when compared to the risks.
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Old 02-05-2009   #71
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Seriously dude - you're a player I have never herd of, get injured, and sneak a video camera in the film room? Hope your grievance works out, because you'll never play in the NFL again.

Sorry you got hurt, hope you get what is coming for your injury AND NOTHING MORE, but jackass.
Isn't that a crime to take a camera in the film room and record it??? If so would the tape be admissable as evidence in his suit since he aquired it illegaly?
 
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This isn't the first time this has happened with the Texans, and I doubt it will be the last. In fact, I believe that Aaron Glenn's complaints as player rep about the same activity was a factor in his falling out with the Texans.

That being said, other teams do the same thing. If the Texans really want to be a place that is known to be a "good place to play" for free agents, maybe they should learn from this and abide by the agreement. I doubt they will, even though it must have very minimal benefits when compared to the risks.
If they violated the spirit of the rule and took advantage of the players, then I'm disappointed with the organization. However, if they simply breached the literal reading of the rules in order to begin to institute a new OL system with the new coach (Gibbs) and the players weren't placed at any greater risk than normal, then I've got no problem with it but still hope that a fringe player like Stevenson and Okobi get some financial restitution for damage done to their careers.
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6248129.html

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If the Texans are found to have violated the NFL’s offseason workout policy, they will lose one week of their organized team activities, and coach Gary Kubiak could be fined.

If a league investigation finds more than one violation during the league year, the Texans could be fined a fourth-round draft choice, according to the collective bargaining agreement.
So it seems that 4th rounder is the max punishment that the team could suffer.

If Kubiak knew this, and ran these practices anyways, and we end up losing a draft pick; I'll be highly pissed.
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This all sounds like much to do about nothing
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I don't know what this extra contact is supposed to gain the team anyway. Today's players are much more fit year round than in previous eras, and they all know how to hit already. I think the coaches just fall back to the "tough guy" methods they learned under.

If the point was to teach a new OL scheme, it seems spending the time on group OL training would be more beneficial. I know some players think there is too much practice contact; I guess that is why the players wanted it in the CB (which the teams agreed to signed).

I'm with the players on this one.
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This all sounds like much to do about nothing
I don't think the average NFL player thinks this is nothing.
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Thanks for pissing off the rest of the team. Now OTA's will be soft and short but training camp will be the most brutal that the team has ever had. They will have to put in the extra work that they missed. Alex Gibbs probably wants this guy booted out of there so bad. LOL
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Looks like Gibbs is following along Darwin's, quick way to sort out the scrub from the players, in his natural selection program.

Survival of the fittest baby.

Look like these scrubs are just trying to milk out some money cause they know they have no chance of success anymore in the NFL. W/E.
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Dick Justice's take:
http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice..._messed_u.html

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The video shows players doing full-speed blocking drills without pads. First, the drills are illegal. Second, they're dumb.

There's a reason the NFL's labor agreement allows contact drills only at appointed times. Otherwise, coaches would have players banging on each other 10 months a year.

Maybe Gary Kubiak and Alex Gibbs thought they'd toughen the boys up. If the Texans are cheating, shouldn't they at least win a few more games?

This thing could get really ugly. It goes beyond illegal drills. It gets into how injured players are cared for.

The Texans look really bad. For a franchise that prides itself on doing things right, on wanting high-character guys, this deal looks terrible. Cheating is cheating. Do other teams do it? Sure they do. Do other teams get caught? Sometimes?

Now we're down a road that includes grievances, depositions and lawsuits. Ugh. You'd think if the Texans were cheating, they'd be better on the field. You'd think if Rick Smith is smart enough to be on the NFL's Competition Committee, he'd be smart enough to let his head coach know he's breaking the rules about off-season workouts.

Maybe Rick was so busy surrounding himself with ''his people'' that he didn't have time to care of these silly little details.

The Texans can't do anything right, can they? It's not that Gary Kubiak broke a rule or two regarding off-season workouts. Lord knows, he's not the first.

There are dumber teams. The Redskins got caught a couple of years ago when they posted an illegal practice right there on their own Web site. At least the Texans weren't that dumb.

The problem is that Kubiak doesn't come off as real smart. If you're going to cheat, you've got to know you can get away with it.
And yes I know I had promised myself to not read The Media's drivel again, but this might be something fairly important about the team.
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