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Old 01-28-2009   #1
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Since we've pretty well gone through the play of everyone in the Shrine and Senior Bowls. .....a topic of mild interest, has anyone heard anything on a potential Strength and Conditioning Coach? I would think that the Texans would want one in place immediately following the Super Bowl to begin the off-season program. Any thoughts, especially on potential philosophies to be employed?
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Since we've pretty well gone through the play of everyone in the Shrine and Senior Bowls. .....a topic of mild interest, has anyone heard anything on a potential Strength and Conditioning Coach? I would think that the Texans would want one in place immediately following the Super Bowl to begin the off-season program. Any thoughts, especially on potential philosophies to be employed?

McLain said that they've been interviewing guys but this is so far down on everyone's radar that the Chron isn't really covering it or paying attention.

Personally, as long as we get someone in who doesn't appear to be a HITtite with training ideas based on Arthur Jones and Mike Mentzer and who actually uses modern techniques, I'll be fine with that. I want to see far, far less reliance on machines and much more use of free weights and movement in space, maybe some of Siff's Powermetric/plyometric stuff. I've known some guys that try to apply Westside techniques to football training but I'd prefer to see something a little more OL oriented. I want explosive athletes.
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1. I always secretly wondered if they were to blame for our outrageous number of injuries over the last few years.

2. I have no idea how they did for their Texans, but I hated their weekend AM radio show. When giving advice for the public's diet and exercise the theme seemed to be you should be in pain from the hunger continuously (ganted I heard it about 3 or 4 times) because you're starving yourself and you should exercise so hard you may get inured.

What? Really? That's great advice for the general public. Probably not even for pro athletes, either.
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I should apply...

I mean how hard can it be?

"Hey!!! Williams!!! Go lift that heavy s**t over there a few times and let me know when you're done."

Of course this is being directed from a recliner, with beer in hand.
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I should apply...

I mean how hard can it be?

"Hey!!! Williams!!! Go lift that heavy s**t over there a few times and let me know when you're done."

Of course this is being directed from a recliner, with 24 ozbeer in hand.(quarts come later)
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Personally, as long as we get someone in who doesn't appear to be a HITtite with training ideas based on Arthur Jones and Mike Mentzer and who actually uses modern techniques, I'll be fine with that. I want to see far, far less reliance on machines and much more use of free weights and movement in space, maybe some of Siff's Powermetric/plyometric stuff. I've known some guys that try to apply Westside techniques to football training but I'd prefer to see something a little more OL oriented. I want explosive athletes.
You lost me with the technical terms, but no matter. Are you familiar with either college or pro personnel that would/could be in line either with your thinking or possibly the Texan's thinking? It appears to me technology associated with body strengthening/speed in the last 10-15 years is not dissimilar to technological advances in computing. Otherwise, you wouldn't have all these potential draft picks going to various trainers to increase their measurables before the draft. A bit different than the guy who trained Earl Campbell, et.al. on his "hill" and also sold BBQ. Times change.
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You lost me with the technical terms, but no matter. Are you familiar with either college or pro personnel that would/could be in line either with your thinking or possibly the Texan's thinking? It appears to me technology associated with body strengthening/speed in the last 10-15 years is not dissimilar to technological advances in computing. Otherwise, you wouldn't have all these potential draft picks going to various trainers to increase their measurables before the draft. A bit different than the guy who trained Earl Campbell, et.al. on his "hill" and also sold BBQ. Times change.
Mike Barwis at the University of Michigan.

He is the best there is at any level, IMO.

Read up on him a little bit. He knows his stuff and he uses the same philosophy toward strength training that I do.

Wikipedia is easy to find and actually has some decent stuff on him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Barwis#Philosophy
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bah007 - Quite a read. Maybe Steve Slaton's surprise strength for the Texans was a bit of a testament to Barwis. You would think with the amount of money in a strength oriented business such as the NFL this guy would have been at the top of the mountain. But I guess there are still proponents of the "hill" for nostalgic reasons promoted by guys like Richard Justice. Thanks for the input.
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Ain't that McNamee guy available???
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You lost me with the technical terms, but no matter. Are you familiar with either college or pro personnel that would/could be in line either with your thinking or possibly the Texan's thinking? It appears to me technology associated with body strengthening/speed in the last 10-15 years is not dissimilar to technological advances in computing. Otherwise, you wouldn't have all these potential draft picks going to various trainers to increase their measurables before the draft. A bit different than the guy who trained Earl Campbell, et.al. on his "hill" and also sold BBQ. Times change.
I don't know the individual coaches out there. I know some of the popular schools of thought because I was a regular on an exercise science forum with a bunch of professional trainers (although they were mostly Olympic sports guys) and because I trained with an ex-college strength coach who was still involved with a lot of the scientific journals. I've also competed a bit in PL, which gives me a lot of experience with approaches like Westside.

I just want a guy that's more current than I am.
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Maybe be need someone who will make them DANCING stars!!

Give them some lessons in a dance studio and watch strength and coordination improve! I remember when some NFL players took some ballet classes, long years ago. Some of the funniest pics I have ever seen. Warren Sapp, Jason Taylor, Emmit Smith, and Jerry Rice ALL have said that Dancing with the Stars was some of the hardest training they ever had to do.
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I vote for Danny Arnold




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Might be available.....
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Call Dickie Justice. maybe he can recommend someone.
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Wow.

Have not seen that harpy in years.
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I think she is busy at the Super Bowl rooting on her husband Kurt Warner.
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