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Old 01-17-2009   #1
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Is he a possibility at 15? I've got a feeling he will climb up the boards with good workouts. http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/...ad.php?t=28379
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Is he a possibility at 15? I've got a feeling he will climb up the boards with good workouts. http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/...ad.php?t=28379
Too small. He's a 3-4 end.
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Is he a possibility at 15?
If he tests as well as I think, Maybin will likely be gone before the Texans pick at #15.

The Texans aren't in a position to be picky. They need a guy who can get to the QB. Whether it's from the DE, LB, or DT position. Maybin has the look of that type of player. Which is why I think he will go in the top 10 of a fairly weak draft.
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Is he a possibility at 15? I've got a feeling he will climb up the boards with good workouts. http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/...ad.php?t=28379
despite his youth & inexperience he has top 10 talent. workouts will not dissapoint & stock will climb.
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Question should be two fold. Will he be there at 15 after the combine and if not, who does that push down to us at 15?
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Too small. He's a 3-4 end.
I think you mean a 3-4 OLB.

Maybin doesn't have a very mature body just yet. He isn't very refined with his moves. These aren't bad things to the NFL, but important to consider if projecting players. Maybin won't ever be a huge guy, but his body right now projects to hold some more weight as he matures. Every player (almost) gains some weight in the NFL; it's a matter of physically maturing and professional weight training. I think Maybin has the ability to stay at DE in a 4-3. He is going to have some issues initially because he lacks multiple, polished moves. This is what NFL coaching staffs are supposed to be able to coach up.
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I think you mean a 3-4 OLB.

Maybin doesn't have a very mature body just yet. He isn't very refined with his moves. These aren't bad things to the NFL, but important to consider if projecting players. Maybin won't ever be a huge guy, but his body right now projects to hold some more weight as he matures. Every player (almost) gains some weight in the NFL; it's a matter of physically maturing and professional weight training. I think Maybin has the ability to stay at DE in a 4-3. He is going to have some issues initially because he lacks multiple, polished moves. This is what NFL coaching staffs are supposed to be able to coach up.
Good post.

Maybin was 220 coming into PSU, and now he's around 245. After a year in an NFL training program, he should be up around 260, which would mean he'd basically be at the same height and weight as Jevon Kearse.

You're also right that he doesn't have many polished moves, and he is basically a speed rusher at this point, but many guys only have one move in college and blossom. I'd love to take Maybin, depending on who we get as a DL coach. Hopefully we're able to land someone who has a history of developing young players.
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If he fell to 15 which I doubt then it will be a no brainer what we do. I think that with Maybin and Orakpo going high that Florida State DE Everette Brown will fall right into our laps.
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There are a ton of pass rushers in this draft. There are so many that we could afford to go LB in the first and still get quality in the 2nd
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I am for Raji @ 15 as there is good chance he will be there. We can pick a DE later such as Robert Ayers in 4th. On another thread there was much discussion on Maybin with I think most saying he needs a year of seasoning in NFL to be prime. DE to support Mario is not our primary need. There are no DTs imo that will stop run that can be had in day two later rounds. Now I would like some info on ROn Brace Raji's team mate. I want info this week on him in practices for senior bowl.
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I'm wondering that if Green Bay takes a look at a pass rushing 3-4 OLB now that they have Capers as DC . They also might look at Raji as a NG since that somewhat vital for a 3-4 .
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I'm wondering that if Green Bay takes a look at a pass rushing 3-4 OLB now that they have Capers as DC . They also might look at Raji as a NG since that somewhat vital for a 3-4 .
Bronco's could be headed towards a 3-4 as well...
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Bronco's could be headed towards a 3-4 as well...
Yep. Cleveland needs another pass rusher too since McGinest is 37 and probably close to retirement. What this all adds up to is no Maybin, Everette Brown, or Raji for us. Maybe someone takes Tyson Jackson before we pick too. Here's a pipe dream, but with the teams switching to 3-4 and the fact that LB isn't really a glaring weakness on any of the 4-3 teams in front of us, how about Aaron Curry?
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Yep. Cleveland needs another pass rusher too since McGinest is 37 and probably close to retirement. What this all adds up to is no Maybin, Everette Brown, or Raji for us. Maybe someone takes Tyson Jackson before we pick too. Here's a pipe dream, but with the teams switching to 3-4 and the fact that LB isn't really a glaring weakness on any of the 4-3 teams in front of us, how about Aaron Curry?
You think Cleveland would take Maybin over Curry? Curry would be a really good ILB for them in the 3-4.
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You think Cleveland would take Maybin over Curry? Curry would be a really good ILB for them in the 3-4.
Cleveland is a mess on defense, but ILB is actually one of their strengths. Andra Davis and D'Qwell Jackson are both well above average. However, they are hurting for pass rushers. Wimbley appears to be regressing, McGinest is old, and there isn't any depth behind them. On top of that, their CBs are pretty bad as well. After the combine and pro days, Maybin will likely be a top 10 guy, so he could be an option, as well as Orakpo, Everette Brown, or Malcolm Jenkins. At this point, I don't think Curry to the Browns is a possibility.
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I need video footage of said pass rushers to competently make a decision on this. What I've seen of Everette Brown, he looks pretty good.
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I need video footage of said pass rushers to competently make a decision on this. What I've seen of Everette Brown, he looks pretty good.
Brian Orakpo

Everette Brown

Michael Johnson

There isn't a Maybin highlight video yet, but if you go here and check out the Michigan State and Ohio State games, you'll see quite a bit of Maybin, #59.

I'm in the process of obtaining a couple of PSU games so that I can make a Maybin highlight video, but it could take a little while.
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There isn't a Maybin highlight video yet, but if you go here and check out the Michigan State and Ohio State games, you'll see quite a bit of Maybin, #59.

I'm in the process of obtaining a couple of PSU games so that I can make a Maybin highlight video, but it could take a little while.
I like Brown and Orakpo more than Johnson. Johnson doesn't look like he's got the moves or the agility to be able to pull of what Brown and Orakpo can do.

I'm thinking that we're not going to get a choice between these players as much as we'll have a choice between positions. It'll probably come down to whether this pick will be an LB or a defensive lineman. The good secondary players always seem to miss us.
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I think that Aaron Maybin is lock for the top 10 with Green bay & Cleveland in serious need pass rush OLB's for the 3-4 defenses. So that means that it all depends on what happens with the Denver Broncos as well and if they will switch to the 3-4 defense too so we can see a run on those undersized DE's that have the ability to move to OLB's such Brian Orakpo & Everette Brown as well so Houston may miss out on all 3 of the top pass rush ends before #15 so I think that we draft the best safety available in William Moore or if Rey Maualuga falls as well Demeco could be moved to the weakside as well.
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I like Brown and Orakpo more than Johnson. Johnson doesn't look like he's got the moves or the agility to be able to pull of what Brown and Orakpo can do.

I'm thinking that we're not going to get a choice between these players as much as we'll have a choice between positions. It'll probably come down to whether this pick will be an LB or a defensive lineman. The good secondary players always seem to miss us.
I agree. Brown and Orakpo would be perfect for us at 15 although Orakpo will be long gone by then. Johnson does not look like an NFL player to me though. He is a physical freak, but he plays with no emotion and no heart. He will also take the play off if it goes away from him. Not exactly someone we need on our defense.

Maybin does not have the size right now, but you have to wonder how good he will be if he puts weight on. He would be the perfect end opposite Mario, but there is no guarantee he would get to that level if he had to change his game and put weight on because he is mainly a speed rusher, where as Mario is a beast hybrid.

I would prefer Brown or Raij because they are the safest picks to me that could contribute immediately on the d-line. And we need that help.
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