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Old 02-17-2009   #561
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I like how Seattle's (2nd place) turned out and really like Jacksonville's (1st place).

I'm not sold on Everrette Brown being the 4-3 DE for us, but I very well could have selected him at that spot too. Brown and Chung were excellent picks.

Remind me what happened with Baltimore.. did Cleveland or Cincinnati trade up? If so, that's a good draft with them having an extra 3rd rounder I presume?

Those players for New England should fit in perfectly, good fits for the team.
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I like how Seattle's (2nd place) turned out and really like Jacksonville's (1st place).

I'm not sold on Everrette Brown being the 4-3 DE for us, but I very well could have selected him at that spot too. Brown and Chung were excellent picks.

Remind me what happened with Baltimore.. did Cleveland or Cincinnati trade up? If so, that's a good draft with them having an extra 3rd rounder I presume?

Those players for New England should fit in perfectly, good fits for the team.
I drafted for the Jags since Ryan didnt show, so ill take props on your first place vote. :P

Cleveland (Me) traded up for Sintim and gave Minn a 4th and 6th. Cincy (imatexan) traded up for Jerry and gave Baltimore a 3rd.
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I drafted for the Jags since Ryan didnt show, so ill take props on your first place vote. :P

Cleveland (Me) traded up for Sintim and gave Minn a 4th and 6th. Cincy (imatexan) traded up for Jerry and gave Baltimore a 3rd.
Gotcha. Well, dang- nice selections for a team you weren't supposed to pick for!!
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With the 63rd pick the Arizona Cardinals select Shonn Greene, RB from Iowa.

This is great value right here, IMO. I really thought that Greene would be long gone by now. I was originally going to trade up to get him, but he somehow fell to me all the way at the bottom of the 2nd round.

After taking a DB in the 1st I knew that I would need a RB in the 2nd round. Edge has 1 year left with the Cards maximum and Hightower & Arrington are not feature backs. With Greene the Cardinals now have a power RB who will move the pile on the goalline and who can carry the load at RB.

Even though I drafted late in this draft, #31, I am still very pleased with the results for the draft.

1st - Louis Delmas, FS
2nd - Shonn Greene, RB
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With the 63rd pick the Arizona Cardinals select Shonn Greene, RB from Iowa.
I love it. Shonn Greene would be a great 2nd or 3rd round pick in my opinion.
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Remind me what happened with Baltimore.. did Cleveland or Cincinnati trade up? If so, that's a good draft with them having an extra 3rd rounder I presume?
I traded #26 overall and a late 4th rounder for a top 6 2nd round pick and a top 6 3rd round pick.

Which gave me two 2nd rounders and two 3rd rounders, one early and one late in both rounds.

Used two 2nd rounders on Alphonso Smith and Juaquin Iglesias. Would have targeted Victor Harris, CB VTech and Brian Robiskie, WR Ohio State in that order in the 3rd round.

I feel like I could have come up with Victor Harris with my first 3rd round pick which is the 6th in the 3rd round. That would have given the Ravens two corners for the future, hopefully anyway.
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D-Rek missed his first round pick, and hasnt been on here for 3 weeks the system says.



The Pittsburgh Steelers Select: Chase Coffman, TE, Missouri
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The Pittsburgh Steelers Select: Chase Coffman, TE, Missouri
That means the Steelers would have 3 good TEs. Miller, Spaeth, and now Coffman.

Spaeth is a good player that is often overlooked.
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This concludes the 2009 pre combine 2 round mock draft.

What did you like?

What did you dislike?

Who are you surprised to still see on the board?

Who went to early?
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Maybe we can all discuss players we would like to pick in the 3rd round anyways, not so much pick them but discuss them. It may help for the post-combine mock. It'd be great to get a tally of everyone's 1st and 2nd round picks + whatever picks they have left in the draft. Maybe we can have a discussion-vote of who's drafts we think went real well. I actually like most of these.
I personally am surprised Victor "Macho" Harris, CB Virginia Tech is still around. He is my #1 player on my board going into the 3rd round. He is a great all-around corner who may be more talented than Brandon Flowers of a year ago, who went at the top of the 2nd round.

Harris was also used alot on offense as VTech's receivers were almost all freshman last year outside of their TE Boone, who is also a very versatile player.
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That means the Steelers would have 3 good TEs. Miller, Spaeth, and now Coffman.

Spaeth is a good player that is often overlooked.
Ok. We can change it no problem?

What do you think about a big boy DE like Kyle Moore?

Or maybe Jonathan Luigs?
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Ok. We can change it no problem?

What do you think about a big boy DE like Kyle Moore?

Or maybe Jonathan Luigs?
I actually don't have any problem with the Coffman pick, I was just pointing out what it means for the team.

It's doubtful they would keep both Spaeth and Coffman however, so it may mean that the Steelers would cut Spaeth.
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I personally am surprised Victor "Macho" Harris, CB Virginia Tech is still around. He is my #1 player on my board going into the 3rd round. He is a great all-around corner who may be more talented than Brandon Flowers of a year ago, who went at the top of the 2nd round.

Harris was also used alot on offense as VTech's receivers were almost all freshman last year outside of their TE Boone, who is also a very versatile player.
The reason Harris is still on the board, IMO, is because the CB class is so deep this year. With guys like Jenkings, Davis, Moore, etc. it is going to be really hard for Harris to climb up the draft boards.
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I thought a lot of people had some pretty solid drafts...

Detroit Lions
Jacksonville Jaguars
Green Bay Packers
Chicago Bears
New York Giants
Baltimore Ravens
Arizona Cardinals

Players that are still on the board that is a little surprising...

Victor Harris (Previously mentioned)
Derrick Williams (He's up there with the good wideouts)
Nate Davis (Davis > Bomar IMO)
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If the Lions drafted a QB with their 2nd pick instead of the 1st overall , would it save money ?
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I traded #26 overall and a late 4th rounder for a top 6 2nd round pick and a top 6 3rd round pick.

Which gave me two 2nd rounders and two 3rd rounders, one early and one late in both rounds.

Used two 2nd rounders on Alphonso Smith and Juaquin Iglesias. Would have targeted Victor Harris, CB VTech and Brian Robiskie, WR Ohio State in that order in the 3rd round.

I feel like I could have come up with Victor Harris with my first 3rd round pick which is the 6th in the 3rd round. That would have given the Ravens two corners for the future, hopefully anyway.
You can forget Robiskie because if he is there when the Bears select he is coming off the boards. Either that or a Guard.
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If the Lions drafted a QB with their 2nd pick instead of the 1st overall , would it save money ?
Yeah, there's a big difference between being drafted #1 overall and #12 overall as far as money goes. But in this situation, Aaron Curry's pockets will be filled with cash.
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If the Lions drafted a QB with their 2nd pick instead of the 1st overall , would it save money ?
Technically yes. The QB they drafted @ #20 would be making 1/4 the amount of money as a QB picked #1, but whoever they chose with the #1 pick would be making some serious buck.

These days it doesn't really matter what position you play. If you go #1 you're going to get a ridiculous contract.
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I've been thinking about the Detroit question for a few days actually. The QB position carries a premium than most other positions. Financially, I think they would save more money by drafting QB #1 and then LT #20. The savings may be nominal and definitely not worth playing around with when trying to build a team.
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For Denver, I was targeting Terrence Taylor, NT from Michigan for my 3rd round pick. If he wasn't available I would try to find a good safety for them. There's no secret I was targeting 3-4 players in the front 7. Got the End and a LB. They need a NT which I thought Taylor could be groomed for. Outside of Raji I wasn't sure of one that could start right away. Dangerous having 66.7% of your DL as rookies anyways.

If Donald Brown was available, I'd take him in a heartbeat. I'm infatuated with that guy's play. I think I value him more than most other people though. Denver has had a slew of RB injuries and no real leader. Hillis is agreat option (great FB) b/c he's versatile and the new HC seems to like that. Having Hillis and Brown back there would make their offense unstoppable.
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