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Old 01-13-2009   #61
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OK, but how long did it take for them to know that they couldn't speak to Jerry Gray?

Isn't the general rule that you can't interview for a lateral move...only for a head coaching job? That's correct, is it not?

If so, then that doesn't wash.

I just think they drug their feet, knowing Bush was their guy, and they know they've drug this out long enough. They knew GP and his band of investigators were getting a little too close to the truth!
The old rule was that you can interview for a promotion. However, because of loopholes like "assistant head coach", they changed the rule to only "head coach"... Gray is currently a secondary coach... Three years ago, he could have interviewed for a coordinator position, but not now.
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I hate this move. If this was the direction they wanted to go, it should have happened no later than week 8 last year.

It shows a serious lack of foresight.
They could have named Bush the interim DC and then interview other people midseason if they had wanted to.

The defense from the midpoint of the season was not so much of a problem. It wouldn't have really changed anything. We were 5-1 over our last 6 games of the year
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Kubiak better be confident in Frank Bush because he will either sink or swim with him.
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I don't think Bush will be terrible, but if he is this will be the year you see a DC get canned mid-season...
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The old rule was that you can interview for a promotion. However, because of loopholes like "assistant head coach", they changed the rule to only "head coach"... Gray is currently a secondary coach... Three years ago, he could have interviewed for a coordinator position, but not now.
Gray had it in his contract that he would interview for coordinator and up, the Skins simply refused to allow him to interview with the Texans.
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Well...no real surprise here, can't really say I know enough about him to cast any form of real excitement or disgust on the appointment, so we're just going to have to wait and see how this pans out, and see what kind of talent we're going to be bringing in to booster our defense.

I'm really eager for the draft to see if we can fix up our leaky D, and look at how Bush is going to hold points off the board, and equally importantly, getting the opposition's QB into the turf a few more times.
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When you try and get a feel for the defensive philosophy a position coach will employ if he gets promoted to Defensive Coordinator, you look to the DC’s he’s worked under in the past. Because Frank Bush has never been a DC, we need to look at the DC’s he’s worked under to get a feel for the kind of coach he’ll probably be.
http://texanstailgate.blogspot.com/2...rank-bush.html

he is getting a little ahead of himself, but interesting
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So, I’m now working under the assumption that if Frank Bush gets hired as the Houston Texans Defensive Coordinator, the defense will look a lot like the Denver Broncos defense did under Greg Robinson. So, with that in mind, how does our personnel stack up with what Denver had, particularly during the Broncos 1998 season when they won their second consecutive championship.

Houston Denver
DE: Mario Williams DE: Neil Smith
DE: Anthony Weaver DE: Maa Tanuvasa
DT: Travis Johnson DT: Keith Traylor
DT: Amobi Okoye DT: Trevor Pryce
SLB: Zac Diles SLB: Bill Romanowski
WLB: Xavier Adibi WLB: John Mobley
MLB: DeMeco Ryans MLB: Glenn Cadrez
CB1: Dunta Robinson CB1: Darrien Gordon
CB2: Jacques Reeves CB2: Ray Crockett
FS: Eugene Wilson FS: Steve Atwater
SS: Nick Ferguson SS: Tyrone Braxton
Ok, we’ll just work our way down the list.
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Bush being hired as DC only bothers me because Richard Smith held the title until now. He should've been named when hired, Smith never did anything to keep his job. He should've been promoted after the 0-4 start. He should've been promoted when the defense proved beyond a shadow of a shadow of a doubt that it was inept under Smith midseason. He should've been promoted the last few games when he was the one basically controlling the calls from afar. He should've been promoted immediately after the Bears game. He should've been promoted before they brought in and let Marinelli walk. Why now?

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from the link comparing the type of defense robinson did in denver(bush was part of the crew) and what Bush might run

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# Strongside Line Backer: This position isn’t even close. Romanowski was one of the best at his position for several years. Diles performed admirably until he injured himself, especially considering he was a 7th round draft pick, but he’s no Romanowski. Part of the problem is that under Richard Smith, there wasn’t any defensive philosophy to speak of, and the two Outside Line Backers were interchangeable. Under Greg Robinson, there was a Strongside Line Backer, and his duties and responsibilities were different than those of the Weakside Line Backer. As a SLB, Romanowski is head and shoulders better than anyone we have. If you were to give Greg Robinson from 1998 our defense to work with, he’d probably be ok until he got to this position. If we’re going to run the same style offense that the Broncos did, this is a position that we need to address, either in the draft (Orakpo) or free agency. Huge edge to Denver. If Chaun Thompson is healthy next year, he would be a sleeper to play this position. He’s got the size/strength to be a SLB, and he was an OLB in Cleveland’s 3-4 defense, so he should have some familiarity with dropping back into coverage, and general linebacking responsibilities.

# Weakside Line Backer: As a rookie in 1996, John Mobley played in all 16 games, and recorded only 61 tackles. In ’97 he recorded 132 and in ’98 he recorded 111. As a rookie, Adibi only played in 7 games, but he had 35 tackles. Adibi showed flashes of brilliance, and if he continues to improve, he could easily be as good as Mobley. Right now, the edge clearly goes to Denver, but Adibi has the skill set and the potential to be a very good WLB in this type of system.

# Middle Line Backer: In 1998, Glenn Cadrez had 74 Tackles in what appears to be his first year starting at MLB, despite having been drafted in 1992 in the sixth round. DeMeco has started since his rookie year, and has been one of the best MLB’s in football. Finally, based on everything, the Texans have a huge advantage at this position.
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Am I the only one excited about this....I mean a new guy who wants to be agressive. I will be more excited once I read or hear the words.......The Houston Texans sever their ties with CB Demarcus "Big Play..er Petey.." Faggins

until then......
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Subtraction of a negative = positive

Therefore just by getting rid of Smith, our defense has improved.

If Bush can make them just a tiny bit better, it'll seem light years beyond what we're used to
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Am I the only one excited about this....I mean a new guy who wants to be agressive. I will be more excited once I read or hear the words.......The Houston Texans sever their ties with CB Demarcus "Big Play..er Petey.." Faggins

until then......
We don't know anything about what the new guy wants to do. McClain says he wants to play an aggressive 4-3, but that is the same dang thing that McClain said about another former Oiler coach, Richard Smith.

Here's a link to an old FanBlog post I wrote when I was trying to figure out what Richard Smith was going to be about.

It's worth reading to see if we get the same old vagueness.

I want to know SPECIFICALLY what is going to be different. Less read and react? Actually trying to disguise coverages? What????
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I'm pretty OK with this signing. I guess the Texans didn't make a mid-season change cuz it's not their style. They tend to be very methodical ( plodding) in personnel changes at times. I wonder what went on with Franklin. We now know what Bush REALLY thought of his coaching.I HATE waiting for the ^&*&^%* draft!!!!
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This move will be the make or break of Kubiak, without a doubt.
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Kubiak probably didn't demote Smith because he didn't think that it was all his fault...Even after Smith was fired Kubiak apologized for not providing him with all the tools (players) necessary...After reflecting on the season he probably figured that another coach could bring a better gameplan on Sundays though...
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I think Bush has paid his dues and its good for him that he is getting a shot. I hope he does well of course, but seeing we wanted him 2yrs ago and weren't allowed to interview him its seems fair to him that he gets the job Kubes wanted him to have to begin with. Now its up to the front office to give him some players to work with.
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At least in the interview Bush had a good presence, but he did use that annoying "kid" thing that Kubiak does. Talk about simplifying the defense and being aggressive at the snap of the ball...moving foward versus sideways.
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For some reason, I feel very comfortable with Bush taking over the D.
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So after listening to Bush’s press conference, I’m definitely more encouraged by this hiring. He seems ambitious and enthusiastic for his big chance. He specifically mentioned Buddy Ryan as one of his mentors along with Jerry Glanville, and Greg Robinson. Old school aggressive Houston defense is back. Attacking, violent, and aggression are words Bush used to describe his defensive philosophy. He said he would simplify the thinking when the ball is snapped and just get up the field after the ball, cause turnovers through collisions. When asked what he was going to change. A devious smile came across his face.
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so after listening to bush’s press conference, i’m definitely more encouraged by this hiring. He seems ambitious and enthusiastic for his big chance. He specifically mentioned buddy ryan as one of his mentors along with jerry glanville, and greg robinson. Old school aggressive houston defense is back. Attacking, violent, and aggression are words bush used to describe his defensive philosophy. He said he would simplify the thinking when the ball is snapped and just get up the field after the ball, cause turnovers through collisions. When asked what he was going to change. A devious smile came across his face.
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