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Old 01-06-2009   #1
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Default Chron reports Texans' Strength Coach & Trainer not offered new contracts

The Texans continued to make changes in their staff today when strength and rehabilitation coach Dan Riley and head trainer Kevin Bastin were told their contracts were not being renewed.

Riley and Bastin had been with the Texans since their first season of 2002. A search is on the way for their replacements.
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Default Another Texans Coach Gone!!!

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6196561.html

The strength and conditioning coach, along with the rehab coach are being let go. Their contracts will not be renewed.
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Interesting. The one year we finally stay healthy - they cut the S&C coach loose. Heh. Not that it has THAT much to do with injuries... it's just kind of funny.
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Default Re: Another Texans Coach Gone!!!

I wonder what criteria are used to evaluate such positions in firing a guy AND hiring another. Players like or dislike maybe?
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Default Re: Another Texans Coach Gone!!!

I remember suggesting (and took a lot of flaming) that Riley should be gone given the number of injuries and players placed on IR. People continually argued that he is so well respected, blah, blah, blah, and that injuries weren't his responsibility (and yes some of those injuries were unavoidable), blah, blah, blah.... Well, it looks like the FO realized that having back to back seasons with 17 guys on IR is more than a coincidence.
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Anyone else notice that once we switched to dancing exercises or yoga or wahtever the hell it was, our injuries plummeted?
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Default Re: Chron reports Texans' Strength Coach & Trainer not offered new contracts

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Default Re: Another Texans Coach Gone!!!

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Well, it looks like the FO realized that having back to back seasons with 17 guys on IR is more than a coincidence.
Or, they haven't been impressed with the development of the strength and conditioning of the players.
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Or, they haven't been impressed with the development of the strength and conditioning of the players.
Or, according to John McCain, it's just because Rick Smith wants his guys.
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Or, they haven't been impressed with the development of the strength and conditioning of the players.
Touche'.... That too.
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Default Re: Chron reports Texans' Strength Coach & Trainer not offered new contracts

maybe brisel and meyers will get stronger now.
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maybe brisel and meyers will get stronger now.
Hopefully Amobi will benefit from the move also.
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Default Re: Chron reports Texans' Strength Coach & Trainer not offered new contracts

Maybe they'll sale Ahman's rehab stuff to the Rockets for TMac .
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Default Re: Chron reports Texans' Strength Coach & Trainer not offered new contracts

i thought our starters remained fairly healthy. Amobi, Diles, Adibi, Johnson, Brown and Green all had issues at one time but that's about it. We had the offense in tact all season once Green was out. Alot of the personel on defense switched cuz they were trying out different people to see if something clicked. We didn't loose anybody for a substantial period of time other than C.C. and Diles if I'm remembering correctly.

I'm not totally convinced there is a major correlation between these firings and injuries. Maybe stamina. That I could see.
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Default Re: Chron reports Texans' Strength Coach & Trainer not offered new contracts

Well, Riley's about 700 years old, so maybe they thought time has finally pasted him by?
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Default Re: Chron reports Texans' Strength Coach & Trainer not offered new contracts

If you are looking at each staff member and their contributions over time, you have to wonder about the S&C staff and the training staff.

The Texans have had slow early starts of seasons and finish strong.

Here's some of what I wrote about Riley in November in my post called My Houston Texans roadmap: What the Texans need to do short and long term. It was my attempt at talking about what sorts of changes needed to be made short term and long term. An interesting read in retrospect given how the season progressed.

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2. Evaluate Strength Training: Another person who has been with the franchise from the beginning is strength and conditioning coach Dan Riley. Very personable guy who has been in the league for a long time. That being said, I'm not sure that the techniques he uses for strength training as he has publicly described them prepare the players well for the season.

He is a high profile proponent of High Intensity Training techniques. (pdf link) To simplify what he advocates(pdf link), it is basically lots of lifting using machines and then having players work on the activities they use for their skill positions. He believes in keeping the same weight program throughout the year to maintain strength.

And I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on weight training, but at least in my experience, lifting weights focusing on individual muscle groups doesn't mimic the explosive balanced power you need when doing sporting activities.

You can be gym strong without being sports strong.

If you look at the most physical players on the Texans, all of them came to the team that way. Andre Johnson participates in the Texans workouts but has done his own workouts for years.
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Default Re: Chron reports Texans' Strength Coach & Trainer not offered new contracts

I got flamed for suggesting the changes that Smithiak have made this offseason. It needed to be done.

Only one more to go (Greir) & the offseason will be complete.

Out with the old in with the new is the theme for this offseason.

Almost all of the CC regime is gone & it's about time.
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Default Re: Chron reports Texans' Strength Coach & Trainer not offered new contracts

Since I've learned about the techniques used (and unused) by our S&C staff, I've been very down on them. Too much non-functional foo-foo fluffball 1980's crap.

Hopefully, we'll get someone a little more up-to-date on training regimens and techniques.
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Default Re: Chron reports Texans' Strength Coach & Trainer not offered new contracts

I think that both Vinny and Painkiller both were pretty negative regarding Riley's strength generating techniques a few months back. Pretty much that Riley does not believe in the most "state of the art" techniques. I'm sure they'll weigh in at some point.
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Smith and Kubiak were fair to give these recent fires at least a chance to improve. They didn't, and now they're gone.
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