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Old 12-31-2008   #21
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This is at least half a function of the OL. Then mix in Leach but don't become predictable about it.
does it necessarily have to be a "pile driver"?
Marcus Allen, L.T., Westbrook, Emmitt Smith could all find the endzone regularly by knowing who to get behind then find that little crease or make their cut at the right moment.

Who in the college ranks has shown that sort of instinct?

If we find a guy with instincts like that, it wouldn't necessarily tip our hand on 3rd-&-goal.
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The run at 0:37 looked like something out of Madden, and blowing up Griffin at 1:47 was pure WIN.

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This is at least half a function of the OL. Then mix in Leach but don't become predictable about it.
True that. That also is a bit of the issue with this team as they are the lighter type guys. Gibbs type guys just have a disadvantage when it is "Muscle it in there" time to the bigger d-line guys. The bigger hitter in the backfield would help mitigate that a bit. We MAY not have to draft that back if we look at how we use Leach and maybe in combination with someone else that is already on the team. Probably should get the big banger, but may be able to scheme around it and be effective.
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True that. That also is a bit of the issue with this team as they are the lighter type guys. Gibbs type guys just have a disadvantage when it is "Muscle it in there" time to the bigger d-line guys. The bigger hitter in the backfield would help mitigate that a bit. We MAY not have to draft that back if we look at how we use Leach and maybe in combination with someone else that is already on the team. Probably should get the big banger, but may be able to scheme around it and be effective.
See, I just kind of think backs regardless of size have an instinct for seams or they don't. The seam is more important in my opinion than the weight. No hole doesn't turn into a hole when a big guy hits Pitts' back. There are some backs that have a talent for getting the TD--so far in most of NFL history they have not been large.

Emmitt is my classic example--dude could find any seam available.
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See, I just kind of think backs regardless of size have an instinct for seams or they don't. The seam is more important in my opinion than the weight. No hole doesn't turn into a hole when a big guy hits Pitts' back. There are some backs that have a talent for getting the TD--so far in most of NFL history they have not been large.

Emmitt is my classic example--dude could find any seam available.
Marcus Allen was my favorite
No way was he big enough to move a pile.
but he could always find his way into the endzone using that little seam or crease


the first verifiable sign that Al Davis was nuts was when he benched Marcus Allen
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Marcus Allen was my favorite
No way was he big enough to move a pile.
but he could always find his way into the endzone using that little seam or crease

the first verifiable sign that Al Davis was nuts was when he benched Marcus Allen
Dude you are preaching to the choir. I don't believe in big. If you can find big and special like Jim Brown (my best RB of all time) great, but I think as a general matter folks are way, way, way, too fascinated with size. Jonathan Wells was 255 lbs and ran like a ballerina. Emmitt was too small and ran for the TD record, as were LT, Holmes, etc.

Of the top 10 RBs this year 3 were over 220 lbs and two of those were by 1 lb.
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Having grown up overseas & never played organized tackle football, tell me......is the whole "by the 4th quarter they shutter at the thought of having to collide with him" line overstated? Is it the o-line's hits that takes the "want to" out of the defense more so than the collisions w/a bruising rb?
Slaton's a tougher runner than you might think. Take a look at him putting the Titan safety on his can on that TD highlight. He's not a big guy and he's not punishing the defense like a bigger runner might be, but that's not necessarily the be-all, end-all when it comes to running backs. It's a nice quality to have but not a necessity.

According to the stats, Slaton starts off strong and finishes strong. He rushed 84 times for 464 yards in the 4th quarter this year. That's a 5.6 ypc average. Most of his TD's and most of his 1st downs are in the 4th quarter. His worst quarter in terms of ypc is the 3rd quarter; his best is actually in the 1st quarter.

When a defense starts getting tired and are getting slower, that's when he has a good chance to break a long one.

BUT...

His lack of size and straight up power is why a lot of people think we should draft a complimentary back in the middle rounds of the next draft.

But make no mistake, he's going to be our main back for a while. He'll just be more of a Westbrook type than a Jamal Lewis type and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
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