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Old 12-30-2008   #1
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Default Larry Johnson - The power back the Texans need.

I just saw on NFLN that he does not want to return to the Chiefs. I don't know what it will take to get him, but I think he would be the perfect compliment to Slaton. What do you guys think and if you think he's worth pursuing, what do you think it would take to get him?
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Default Re: Larry Johnson - The power back the Texans need.

I think it would take too much. I also think that he will not want to come to a team that already has a premiere back.
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Default Re: Larry Johnson - The power back the Texans need.

Since Kubes has a thing for veteran running backs, I think Edgerrin James might do good here as a backup.
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Default Re: Larry Johnson - The power back the Texans need.

Sigh.

The guy may not even get 15 carries a game with Slaton as the main guy. We're going to pay a boatload of money for a guy who:

1 - will want starter's carries.
2 - has had a TON of character issues
3 - could very likely start 2009 on suspension
4 - quit on his team in KC
5 - is very clearly a me-first, selfish player who went in the tank once he got his big contract

Not just no, but HELL no.
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Default Re: Larry Johnson - The power back the Texans need.

We can draft a good enough back in the 3rd or 4th round to help Slaton out. We don't need to be paying millions of bucks for another has been.

edit to say: I do think someone to help Slaton out, a short yardage brusier, is a must acquisition in the off season though.
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Since Kubes has a thing for veteran running backs, I think Edgerrin James might do good here as a backup.
That's who I'm expecting us to take a look at. There's no question he's leaving Arizona.
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Sigh.

The guy may not even get 15 carries a game with Slaton as the main guy. We're going to pay a boatload of money for a guy who:

1 - will want starter's carries.
2 - has had a TON of character issues
3 - could very likely start 2009 on suspension
4 - quit on his team in KC
5 - is very clearly a me-first, selfish player who went in the tank once he got his big contract

Not just no, but HELL no.
exactly.
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Default Re: Larry Johnson - The power back the Texans need.

Everyone lock up your wives and daughters. 4 assaults on women in the last 5 years.

Again, other people have covered it. Too much money for limited touches.
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That's who I'm expecting us to take a look at. There's no question he's leaving Arizona.
Add to the fact he was a Colt at one point. Has he had injuries in Arizona?
Because I do not want any one that is injury prone. I do not want no part of damaged goods after the Awman "I'm injured again" Green experiment.


No to Larry Johnson, he is not one of our "guys". He is a very selfish player like Diehard mentioned.
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That's who I'm expecting us to take a look at. There's no question he's leaving Arizona.

Agree- good at pass protection, used to the zone-blocking scheme and no significant injuries the past few seasons.
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Agree- good at pass protection, used to the zone-blocking scheme and no significant injuries the past few seasons.
May know a few Colt formations, also a very good receiver out of the backfield. Hightower said that James was very professional in assisting with his developement in the pro game.
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Default Re: Larry Johnson - The power back the Texans need.

Heck, he'd be a better fit than Shaun Alexander but....NO thanks.
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Default Re: Larry Johnson - The power back the Texans need.

Edge hasn't had any noteworthy injuries, but he didn't have any blocking in the Denny Green era and he doesn't fit the new regime. He had a 100 yard game to finish out the season, but for the most part, Hightower was the main guy for Arizona.
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Default Re: Larry Johnson - The power back the Texans need.

A big huge heaping helping of "aaaaah hells no" on LJ.

Edge is interesting, but he could be done. He didn't get any help in Arizona, where I think backs take their careers to die. I just don't know if he would be an over the hill signing ala Green. Granted, Edge has been injury free, but what's left in the tank after running behind a subpar line in Arizona?
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Default Re: Larry Johnson - The power back the Texans need.

Edge James

I could definately live with them alternating Slaton and Green as the lightning (like what they did with Ahman this year before he finally kicked the bucket or something similar). While they pick up a late round double quarterpounder who actually knows how to fall forward for a yard.

Especially since this would prolong Slatons career, give him a veteran role mode (a great one at that) added injury protection, and if they're both healthy and by some miracle we make the playoffs, they'll both have some serious energy saved up.

In my mind, I have Slaton averaging 18 carries, James averaging 14, and new powerback averaging 6 a game. Thats almost 40 run plays a game though ... hmm...
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Dude is a grown ass man who spits on women.

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Default Re: Larry Johnson - The power back the Texans need.

LJ is a no for me. James would be interesting, would all in all be an improvement over LJ, when coupled with looking at $, role expectations, and character issues.

If we're going to blow a whole load of coin on a veteran I would prefer shopping for Deuce, who looks set to leave the Saints (although we couldn't give him the premiere running back role he is reportedly leaving to maintain).
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LJ is a no for me. James would be interesting, would all in all be an improvement over LJ, when coupled with looking at $, role expectations, and character issues.

If we're going to blow a whole load of coin on a veteran I would prefer shopping for Deuce, who looks set to leave the Saints (although we couldn't give him the premiere running back role he is reportedly leaving to maintain).
Deuce?? His freakin knees are held together by duck butter nowadays. Might as well sign Cadillac Williams, who just tore his shit up.....again.
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Deuce?? His freakin knees are held together by duck butter nowadays. Might as well sign Cadillac Williams, who just tore his shit up.....again.
Not advocating that we should take this route at all (hence my terminology of 'wasting' the money.). We are just more likely to get away with a short contract on someone like Duece, or arrange it so that we aren't lumbered with large guarenteed money numbers due to health concerns (unlike our 4 yearer with Ahman) rather than having to dish out a 4 year money churner for someone who has played less games this year.

As it is, FA isn't the way to get our complimentary back for Stevie, so this is all pretty trivial for me anyways.
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I think Rhodes is a free agent. I think that would be a good fit if we can't find anyone in the draft.
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