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Old 12-29-2008   #1
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found this mention of the Texans in a PFT story about the Mangini firing. first I've read about the entire D staff being purged, but then again PFT is mostly a lot of hot air.

"Possibly, Mangini could land somewhere as a defensive coordinator. In Houston, for example, coach Gary Kubiak reportedly will be dumping his entire defensive coaching staff. If Mangini is regarded as a guy who never would be trusted with the title of head coach by any other NFL team, then Kubiak wouldn’t have to worry about Mangini having designs on obtaining an in-house promotion in Houston if/when Kubiak is fired."


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I wouldn't mind this at all. I am interested in the fact that the rumor says the entire defensive staff may be fired.
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mangini's a 3-4 guy so i dont see how it'll happen
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I don't see a reason why the entire defensive staff should be fired.
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I don't see a reason why the entire defensive staff should be fired.
I've got a pretty good one.

Because any DC worth his salt would want to bring in his own guys.
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mangini's a 3-4 guy so i dont see how it'll happen
Good defensive minds can work either set
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Default Re: PFT rumor

They won't fire the entire staff. It'll be a promotion from within. I'm with the majority on this one, it'll be Frank Bush.
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I've got a pretty good one.

Because any DC worth his salt would want to bring in his own guys.
Wasn't Mangini a DC under Belicheat? If so, I wouldn't mind giving him a shot at the DC position.
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They won't fire the entire staff. It'll be a promotion from within. I'm with the majority on this one, it'll be Frank Bush.
God, I hope not. If we've got people on this team, worthy of being promoted to defensive co-ordinator, I would hope they would have influenced our defense in some form or fashion. If that person is on this team, and what we've seen is the most of that influence.... we need to go outside.

I also don't see bringing in an Eric Mangini, or a Wade Phillips, without switching to a 3-4. Why bring in a specialist, and limit his tool-box??

I want someone from the Jim Johnson school of defense. Hell, I want Jim Johnson... I know it won't happen, but that's what I want.

Forgive the blasphemy, but someone working for Jeff Fischer should also be considered.
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I don't see a reason why the entire defensive staff should be fired.
please tell us of a position on the defense that did its job and performed well?
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Offseason- Day 1:





Its gonna be a looooooooong offseason.
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They won't fire the entire staff. It'll be a promotion from within. I'm with the majority on this one, it'll be Frank Bush.
I keep seeing people post this but why? What has Frank Bush done that is so great? He yells a lot. Big deal. I yell a lot to but I dont see the Texans wanting to hire me.
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I've got a pretty good one.

Because any DC worth his salt would want to bring in his own guys.
I understand a new DC wanting to be with familiar folks but I think we've got too many good positional coaches for that to happen.
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I keep seeing people post this but why? What has Frank Bush done that is so great? He yells a lot. Big deal. I yell a lot to but I dont see the Texans wanting to hire me.
I'm a pretty quiet guy but that doesn't mean I can play wide out like AJ.

I think it goes back to when Kubiak was first hired. He wanted Bush to come on board (I think as DC) but Arizona wouldn't let him go. The next year Kubiak finally got him but Smith was already hired. So the natural progression kind of makes sense unless since Bush has been here, Kubiak has seen something that doesn't make him think Bush could make it as a DC.
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They won't fire the entire staff. It'll be a promotion from within. I'm with the majority on this one, it'll be Frank Bush.
The PFT rumor about the Texans defensive staff comes from the Jay Glazer national report.

"there is going to be a big change on defense."

Which was re-reported by the Chron when they asked Kubiak about the report.
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I understand a new DC wanting to be with familiar folks but I think we've got too many good positional coaches for that to happen.
You may be right, but I really don't see any evidence of that being the case. I hear that "this guy's good" and "that guy's good" but there's really no way to know for sure.

Any good NFL DC is afforded the latitude to bring in his own guys. If Kubiak doesn't want to give that kind of latitude, then he'll end up with another yes man like Richard Smith.......and the same kind of results.
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Lots of experienced guys out there.

One that might be an interesting fit would be Gregg Williams.

He was DC for the Jaguars under a one year contact. He is close to Jeff Fisher and would be a great candidate over there if Titans DC Jim Schwartz ends up being a head coach.

Timing wise, it may not work out so good for Williams-Titans as the Titans are going to be tied up with playoff stuff for the next couple of weeks at least.

Here's his bio.

Is familiar with Houston area as he lived here a number of years.
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Gregg Williams could be the guy. The Jags run a 4-3, right?
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why would we get a guy that does not fit into our culture or system
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