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Old 01-06-2005   #1
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Default Dunta ROBBED!

I can't believe D-Rob didn't make the Pro Bowl. He is twice as deserving as any other CB that made it for the AFC.

Dunta Robinson
YEAR TEAM G GS TOT SOLO AST PD SACK FF REC INT YDS TD
2004 HOU 16 16 88 76 12 19 3.0 3 0 6 146 0

Chump Bailey
YEAR TEAM G GS TOT SOLO AST PD SACK FF REC INT YDS TD
2004 DEN 16 16 81 72 9 12 0.0 0 0 3 0 0

Tory James
YEAR TEAM G GS TOT SOLO AST PD SACK FF REC INT YDS TD
2004 CIN 16 16 63 60 3 13 0.0 2 1 8 66 0

Chris McAlister
YEAR TEAM G GS TOT SOLO AST PD SACK FF REC INT YDS TD
2004 BAL 15 15 42 38 4 9 0.0 0 1 1 51 1


its absurd the type of players that can get in, when the ones that truly deserve it dont get in.

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Old 01-06-2005   #2
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Am I the only person that thought this topic was about the Def. ROY and Dunta getting robbed by Vilma or something.

But yes,we know D-Rob is a pro bowler.
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And yes, get ready to be disappointed again when Vilma wins DROY.
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im gonna throw a hissy fit if Drob doesnt get the DROY. he deserves it more than Vilma.

Yah.. I know.. Vilma came in and became a team leader.. honestly, so what? You think he is responsible for the jets having a better defense this season? he may have contributed, but I garuntee he didnt come in and show those players how to play a better game. He came in and became a leader, but his stats are middle of the road.. he didnt turn any heads in the stats department. If he wins the DROY, its because he plays in new york.. that is all.
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Player Team Ints Yds LG TDs FF Rec TDs Pdef Scks SFTY Cmb Tck Solo Ast
Jonathan Vilma NYJ 3 58 38 1 0 1 0 5 2 0 107 77.0 46 30
Dunta Robinson HOU 6 146 61 0 3 0 0 19 3 0 87 73.0 60 14


ThaShark... yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
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IMO Dunta is deserving of his first Pro-Bowl berth but I bet if he were to ask him, he wouldn't think he deserved it because of the result of the season. He ssems like a stand up kid that doesn't worry about personal awards. Vilma wins Defensive Rookie of the Year because of the year the Jets have had, plus he plays in NY, one the media capitols so more people here about him. Not to mention he stepped up big against the Rams and has done so through the season. Not saying Dunta hasn't so please don't take this thread there! Dunta will get his and make plenty of Pro-Bowls before his career is over. Hopefully, the Pro Bowl won't be the only Bowl that he goes to!
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I can't believe D-Rob didn't make the Pro Bowl. He is twice as deserving as any other CB that made it for the AFC.

Dunta Robinson
YEAR TEAM G GS TOT SOLO AST PD SACK FF REC INT YDS TD
2004 HOU 16 16 88 76 12 19 3.0 3 0 6 146 0

Chump Bailey
YEAR TEAM G GS TOT SOLO AST PD SACK FF REC INT YDS TD
2004 DEN 16 16 81 72 9 12 0.0 0 0 3 0 0

Tory James
YEAR TEAM G GS TOT SOLO AST PD SACK FF REC INT YDS TD
2004 CIN 16 16 63 60 3 13 0.0 2 1 8 66 0

Chris McAlister
YEAR TEAM G GS TOT SOLO AST PD SACK FF REC INT YDS TD
2004 BAL 15 15 42 38 4 9 0.0 0 1 1 51 1


its absurd the type of players that can get in, when the ones that truly deserve it dont get in.
I agree, Dunta should be in the pro bowl. But you have to remember that these are shut down corners (except tory, he just had a good amount of picks). The reason their stats dont look as good as Dunta's is because that they have their receiver shut down and the QB cannot throw to them.
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I think Vilma deserves d-ROY just as much as Dunta. They both really shined this year.
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I will admit, Dunta made some huge plays down the stretch and really pulled a weakened secondary together. He has my vote! He really outshined the wiley veteran, Aaron Glen, IMO.
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And yes, get ready to be disappointed again when Vilma wins DROY.
Vilma's interception against the Rams sealed it.
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Yeah, that INT sealed and deleivered the ROY for Vilma...he was huge in that game. Not winning ROY takes nothing away from Robinson, he was the Defensive MVP this season for the Texans.
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I agree, Dunta should be in the pro bowl. But you have to remember that these are shut down corners (except tory, he just had a good amount of picks). The reason their stats dont look as good as Dunta's is because that they have their receiver shut down and the QB cannot throw to them.
no.. there have been no shutdown corners this year. Champ has got burned SO many games this season.. and the others have too.

The reason Dunta's stats look better is because he is a better cover corner than any of those guys, and cover corners are more effective with the 5 yard rule in effect.

Also, Dunta is an amazing tackler for a CB, and plays with alot of fire. He actually wants to be known for his tackling ability, something you dont see too much in a CB.
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Unfortunately, DR plays for a losing team and did not get the exposure (or respect) he deserves as a result.

Next year, though, watch out! He'll be Pro Bowl bound for sure.
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Vilma splits Bruce Smith award on usatoday.com:

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The Bruce Smith Award: Right off the bat, indecisiveness with a split decision for defensive rookie of the year. Half the award goes to New York Jets big-play linebacker Jonathan Vilma, the other half to Denver's tackling machine, D.J. Williams. Before hitting the big time, Vilma and Williams were roommates at the University of Miami. Symmetry always scores big with the voting panel.
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no.. there have been no shutdown corners this year. Champ has got burned SO many games this season.. and the others have too.

The reason Dunta's stats look better is because he is a better cover corner than any of those guys, and cover corners are more effective with the 5 yard rule in effect.

Also, Dunta is an amazing tackler for a CB, and plays with alot of fire. He actually wants to be known for his tackling ability, something you dont see too much in a CB.

I agree, corners like champ got away last year with man handling receivers, now that the rules have changed his production has slipped.

Dunta on the other hand played the position right. Teams constantly were testing Dunta, sure he made some rookie mistakes, but overrall he was amazing. Not only should he have made the pro bowl, but he should take DROY
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The recognition will come.

Just be content that you don't have to play against him.
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Just be content that you don't have to play against him.
I want to take the time to thank the JacksonVILE Jaguars for passing on him one pick in front of us when they were in need of a CB. They wanted a larger more physical corner.
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so what if he dont get DROY, we all know how good he is, and so does he, the rest of the world will see come next season !
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I want to take the time to thank the JacksonVILE Jaguars for passing on him one pick in front of us when they were in need of a CB. They wanted a larger more physical corner.
You got that right, and the guy they did pick in front of us did nothing this season.
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I want to take the time to thank the JacksonVILE Jaguars for passing on him one pick in front of us when they were in need of a CB. They wanted a larger more physical corner.
... and instead spending a top 10 pick on a guy who was rated distant fourth (at best) WR in the draft class until Mike Williams got lawyered out.
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