The "Won't be available at 13" Thread

[Dionysus22]

Originally Posted by Meloy

Personally, I hope all three go in top 12 as someone we can use may go at 13. DD as our starter with a back up to save him a few carries is ok by me.

Did we forget about Tony Hollings? He was great until he got hurt. And Jonathan Wells wasn't exactly the recking ball we all hoped but he was good enough to handle the load and give DD a breather from time to time.

I think we learn enough from past years that stacking one position doesn't really make things better. Case in point, Our TE situation. I still believe Billy Miller is our guy. But backing him up with a guy who hasn't played a down of ball in two years because he's always hurt or a guy who is way past his prime and his considered a "Blocking" TE yet we keep putting him out on routes. Is it me or does that seem like it doesn't make any sense?

[infantrycak]

From WildBlackBear32

To be blunt...it's pretty bad...

-No way DJ drops to 13.
-No way Marcus Johnson is the first OL off the board.
-No way Barron drops out of the top 15.
-The Pats drafted Wilfork last year, don't think they are gonna take another DT.

These are just at a quick glance..

I wish I had some of last year's comments so we could compare them, like:

No way Randy Starks drops out of the 1st round.
No way Wilfork drops out of the top 20.
Detroit drafted Charles Rogers last year, don't think they are gonna take another WR.

[dirty steve]

the pats did take ben gordon and daniel graham in consecutive years, didn't they? the fact that they run both a 3-4 and 4-3 prolly puts a premium on DT. maybe they will go after a WR with patten in washington now.

[DRIFTAWAY]

Its starting to look as if DJ wont be available

[edo783]

Originally Posted by DRIFTAWAY

Its starting to look as if DJ wont be available

???? When did it ever look like he would be available to us at 13? Or are you J/K?

[D-ReK]

Originally Posted by royce1054

Rolle, Merriman, Spears, Barron, Johnson, Pac-Man, Benson, C. Williams, Benson, Brown, Edwards, M. Williams wont be there are 13.

Just figured I'd add in what I saw in another thread...

[Nawzer]

A couple of those guys might be there considering Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers will go within the first 10 picks. A couple of these guys will fall and I think Benson and Pac-Man maybe be available for us. Merriman may fall to us too. So I think we'll have 2 or 3 of the supposed top 10 players available.

[D-ReK]

I still say only two RBs will go before 13 and one will fall...Everything I've seen has the three rated very similarly, so based on how well each RB would fit in each system, I say Benson will fall to us...I'm not too sure if we'd take him though...

[outofhnd]

Boy how this is going to change over the next month. As needs and rumors begin circulating.

At this point my mind has completely been blown thinking about the draft.

[beerlover]

please don't let it blow your mind, here is my updated list of who will not be available @ 13-

1. Mike Williams
2. Braylon Edwards
3. Ronnie Brown
4. Cedric Benson
5. Aaron Rodgers
6. Alex Smith
7. Antrell Rolle
8. Carnell Williams
9. Derrick Johnson
10. Shawne Merriman

this is clearly the top 10 group of NFL prospects, after that it becomes too close to call before the Texans pick, so I'm going to leave it at that, everyone else is fair game.

[Xman]

1. Mike Williams
2. Braylon Edwards
3. Ronnie Brown
4. Cedric Benson
5. Aaron Rodgers
6. Alex Smith
7. Antrell Rolle
8. Carnell Williams
9. Derrick Johnson
10. Shawne Merriman
11. "Pac Man" Jones

EVERYONE seems to agree on the top 11 above - even if a few mocks interject another player or two in that forces one of them down to #13.

Now, we just hope that a few teams do the same thing. That Dallas decides it has to have Cody at #10 and Detroit or Washington take CRogers because Rolle and Jones are gone and they really want a CB - not that is the scenario I am predicting but that is what we need to happen.

Usually, about one or two weeks before the draft, between one and three players shoot up the rankings.

Let's just hope that James/SCody/DCody/Spears/CRogers/Williamson/HMiller or someone else slides up a few spots - leaving us one of those top 11. Then we take him - ragardless of position (except for QB which will be gone anyway).

Last year - PRivers, Hall and Dunta shot up the charts just before the draft (they were highly ranked but not considered top 10 until about a week before the draft). The same thing will happen this year. At least on the DL will shoot up and maybe a CB - Just wait and see.

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by D-Rek

Merriman won't be there at 13 (you can paste this is the "won't be there at 13 thread)

That speaks for itself.

[Mr Shush]

If Benson fell I'd take him like a shot . . . unless someone else wanted to trade up to take him. And let's face it, they would.

[D-ReK]

Who would trade up and take him? Carolina?

[D-ReK]

Originally Posted by BuffSoldier

I know a lot of people dont think that we should draft Barron, but I think if he falls to us and DJ, Rolle, and Pac-Man are gone(which they will be) then Barron is probably the BPA

Taken from the Rob Rang mock thread...

[D-ReK]

Originally Posted by D-ReK

Alex Smith won't be available at 13, so why would Green Bay have an incentive to trade up?

Figured I'd keep this thread moving...

[D-ReK]

Originally Posted by Meloy

I don't think Spears falls to 13.

Keeping the thread moving...

[DocBar]

I really hope the Texans don't use #13 on Barron. Just because he's the highest rated O-lineman in THIS draft doesn't mean he's a miracle cure for the team. Left tackle is one of, if not THE, hardest positions to play and it is even moreso for rookies in need of attitudinal adjustments.
We'd be better off trading up for LB Johnson or trading down for a tweener or best available. I would like to see us pick up a good RB on day 2 so we have insurance against DD's annual injury bug.

[D-ReK]

Depending on who you talk to, some think Barron isn't even the top rated OT in this draft...Our O-Line coach was allegedly "drooling" over Khalif Barnes at his pro day...On the flip side of this, in an interview on ESPN 790, Casserly said that Barron could easily step in and make an impact here from day one...Let's just hope that was a smokescreen...

[DocBar]

Originally Posted by D-ReK

Depending on who you talk to, some think Barron isn't even the top rated OT in this draft...Our O-Line coach was allegedly "drooling" over Khalif Barnes at his pro day...On the flip side of this, in an interview on ESPN 790, Casserly said that Barron could easily step in and make an impact here from day one...Let's just hope that was a smokescreen...

I've heard that Barnes is better from a variety of sources. He may be, but there are still no real "blue chippers" in this draft on the O-line.I wouldn't expect Casserly to say anything different, especially when we may end up drafting the guy. I think our line will improve a great deal just from staying together as a unit. Wand is a HUGE man and is still pretty raw. He must have an upside or why move Pitts to LG after we dropped to 36 sacks in '03? Remember Dallas' O-line in the early 90's? I think we have that potential. Draft big on "D" in the 1st round. THAT'S where we need more help. I hope the linebacker corps will have more of a killer instinct this year with all the changes we've made. Maybe we'll get lucky with #13 and get another shutdown corner to compliment Robinson in a year or two. Kinda hard to figure LB's with all the tweeners. Lots of potential, but fewer garuantees.
They need to add spellcheck on here. LOL