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Old 12-13-2008   #1
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3767115

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Iowa State coach Gene Chizik has been hired as the next football coach of Auburn, sources close to the situation told ESPN.com.

The former Auburn defensive coordinator will succeed Tommy Tuberville, who resigned following 10 seasons. The hiring was reported by several media outlets, including AuburnUndercover.com, the Birmingham News and the Mobile Press-Register.

An Auburn spokesman said no announcement was scheduled for Saturday; an Iowa State spokesman said he couldn't confirm the reports.

Chizik is 5-19 in two seasons at Iowa State after stints running the defenses at Auburn and Texas. He coached the nation's top scoring defense in 2004 in his third and final season with the Tigers. That defense allowed just 11 points a game and Auburn went undefeated.
The guy is 5-19 in two seasons! 5-19! And he's hired at Auburn

Going from Tuberville to Chizik isn't exactly an improvement...
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Chizik is going to need A LOT of luck if he is going to recruit against Saban.

The guy switches job more than Bobby Petrino.
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Let's not forget that Chizik coached the Auburn D when they were undefeated, and was the D Coor/Asst HC when UT won it's national championship. Chizik is well liked at Auburn, and can probably recruit (atleast to the D).

Winning at Ames may be the hardest thing for a coach to do in the Big XII.
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Let's not forget that Chizik coached the Auburn D when they were undefeated, and was the D Coor/Asst HC when UT won it's national championship. Chizik is well liked at Auburn, and can probably recruit (atleast to the D).

Winning at Ames may be the hardest thing for a coach to do in the Big XII.
The choice is not a popular one and most people at Auburn are beside themself...there is much more in the article, including video

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...n=ncaaf,128957

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It's been downhill from there, beginning with Kevin Scarbinsky's preemptive obituary for the Chizik era for the Birmingham News:

One former SEC assistant heard the news and laughed out loud.
One former Auburn assistant who worked alongside Chizik reacted with stunned silence.

One college football insider who knows both the current Alabama boss and the man Auburn has chosen to battle him said Chizik is a good coach -- but Nick Saban will eat him for breakfast.
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Saban looms over this hire like the Wicked Witch of the West, watching Dorothy and her little friends struggle in the forest via crystal ball while sending a storm over the Plains to send the Tiger program into a deep hibernation. No one -- and I mean literally no one that I can find on the record, from people sprinting to jump on the pile to those who have to be more political about it -- has anything actually positive to say about the decision. A small but relevant sample:

Paul Clark, CycloneReport.com: " ... I must admit, even I am surprised at the bizarre turn of events whereby he failed miserably at Iowa State and still got to jump on the very first opportunity that came along to move back south. What the hell Auburn is thinking is anybody's guess. And who cares. Because it just unburdened Iowa State of its most unprepared, overmatched and incompetent head coach of the modern era."

Jay Coulter, Track 'Em Tigers: "To say this move is shocking is an understatement. For many Auburn fans, this is a worst case scenario. There appears to be little logic in the choice."
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Default Re: Auburn hires Gene Chizik

Chizik is liked by the right people:

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Chizik was hired as Auburn's coach Saturday because he was an outstanding defensive coordinator during his three seasons there. Just as importantly, Chizik was well-liked by Auburn's influential boosters and former coach Pat Dye
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/column...t&lid=tab4pos2

As for anything coming out of Ames, I'd take it with a grain of salt. Dan McCarney performed a minor miracle there, untill he went 4-8 and everybody from the press to the AD wanted to him gone. Iwoa State, both the school and the fans/reporters, know nothing about college football. Also Chizik has recruited out of both Texas and Florida while at Iowa St, something that should only improve as he returns to Auburn.
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As for anything coming out of Ames, I'd take it with a grain of salt. Dan McCarney performed a minor miracle there, untill he went 4-8 and everybody from the press to the AD wanted to him gone. Iwoa State, both the school and the fans/reporters, know nothing about college football. Also Chizik has recruited out of both Texas and Florida while at Iowa St, something that should only improve as he returns to Auburn.
I understand but I found the article amusing. I did find one thing though that peaked my interest. It mentioned Turner Gill. The guy has turned around a weak, weak school in Buffalo and some wanted him. They said the "right" people at Auburn was the good ole boy network. We will see how this works out. I think he is on a tight leash.
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Maybe Iowa St should hire Tuberville.

That would be an upgrade for them.
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Looks like my article may be closer to the truth. What a messed up move when you already had a guy as good as Chizik. this is going to get ugly.No matter what big wigs or good ole boys think, most seem not happy


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3770769

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Former Auburn and NBA star Charles Barkley ripped his alma mater on Monday, saying the only reason the Tigers did not hire Buffalo's Turner Gill as the school's new football coach is because Gill is black.


Auburn on Saturday hired Iowa State's Gene Chizik, who had a 5-19 record in two seasons with the Cyclones. Chizik was the defensive coordinator at Auburn in 2004, when the Tigers finished 13-0 and ranked No. 2 in the country.

Chizik replaces former Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville, who won 85 games in 10 seasons but was forced to resign earlier this month.

"I think race was the No. 1 factor," said Barkley, who played basketball for three seasons at Auburn during the early 1980s. "You can say it's not about race, but you can't compare the two resumes and say [Chizik] deserved the job. Out of all the coaches they interviewed, Chizik probably had the worst resume."

Gill, a former Nebraska quarterback, took over one of the country's worst programs at Buffalo three years ago. He guided the Bulls to an 8-5 record and their first MAC championship this season, upsetting previously unbeaten Ball State 42-24 in the Dec. 5 conference championship game.

The Bulls won 10 games in their first seven seasons at the Division I-A level. Gill guided Buffalo to 13 victories during the last two seasons combined.

"I'm just very disappointed," Barkley said. "I just thought Turner Gill would be the perfect choice for two reasons: He's a terrific coach and we needed to make a splash. I thought we had to do something spectacular to bring attention to the program. Clearly, if we'd hired a black coach, it would have created a buzz."

Barkley, who works as an NBA analyst for Turner Network Television, said he spoke with Gill before Gill interviewed with Auburn officials last week.

"We talked about the whole race thing in Alabama," Barkley said. "I told him it's there and it's going to be anywhere you go. I told him you can't not take the job because of racism. He was worried about being nothing more than a token interview. He was concerned about having a white wife. It's just very disappointing to me."

Barkley, an 11-time NBA All-Star and two-time Olympic gold medal winner, said he served on Auburn's search committee for a new basketball coach after the 2003-04 season. Barkley said he told Auburn officials he would serve on the committee only if the school was ready to hire a black coach.

Barkley said he presented three African-American candidates for consideration: former Indiana coach Mike Davis, then-Virginia Commonwealth coach Jeff Capel and then-UAB coach Mike Anderson.

Barkley said all three candidates wanted to coach at Auburn. Instead, the Tigers hired then-Chattanooga coach Jeff Lebo, a white candidate. Lebo has a 61-68 record in his fifth season at Auburn.

Barkley said he was removed from Auburn's search committee before Lebo was hired.

"Out of all the basketball coaches they interviewed, they picked the only one who hadn't been to the NCAA tournament," Barkley said.

There are only four African-American coaches among 119 programs in the NCAA's Football Bowl Subdivision. Illinois offensive coordinator Mike Locksley was hired as New Mexico's coach last week; the others are Gill, Miami's Randy Shannon and Houston's Kevin Sumlin.

Two African-American coaches, Washington's Tyrone Willingham and Kansas State's Ron Prince, were fired during the 2008 season, and Mississippi State's Sylvester Croom resigned.

Barkley said he wanted Gill to become Auburn's coach because Auburn is a school where an African-American coach could be successful.

"My biggest problem with the black coaches is they're not getting jobs and they're getting [expletive] jobs when they are hired," Barkley said. "They're not getting good jobs. They're not getting jobs where they can be successful. That's why I wanted Turner to get the Auburn job. He could win consistently at Auburn. You can't win consistently at New Mexico. You can't win consistently at Kansas State. He could have won at Auburn."
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They didn't pass on Gill because he is black.

They passed on him because Chizik already has experience in the way they run things over at Auburn.

The AD has no power. The head coach answer directly to the boosters and the board of directors.

Those people don't know Gill, and they know that Chizik will play by their rules. That's why he was hired.

Gill would have been a way better move. A black coach is a huge draw for young black athletes. And Auburn will need any recruiting edge they can get if they are even going to compete with Alabama on the field.

Plus, Gill has already taken a shit program and turned it into a conference champion. I wouldn't be surprised if they asked Gill if he wanted the job and he said no. Who would after seeing how they treated Tuberville?

Gill is THE up and coming coach in college football. In the next few years, he will have opportunites at any job he wants. I think he can afford to pass on Auburn.
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yeah, definitely not a race thing, if it were some other lousy white coach i might say so, but Chizik is a familiar face from a familiar place and they just want to keep that going. it's still a "good ole boy" thing, just not a racial thing
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yeah, definitely not a race thing, if it were some other lousy white coach i might say so, but Chizik is a familiar face from a familiar place and they just want to keep that going. it's still a "good ole boy" thing, just not a racial thing
I lived in Montgomery for basically three years. The Auburn following in that city is huge! But I can tell you from experience that that area of the country reeks of Old South mentality. I'm more than sure that Turner Gil's race had something to do with not hiring him. That, and the fact the his wife is white. Things that don't matter that much in this part of the country matter a lot over there. Auburn made a huge mistake not hiring Turner Gil. And memo to you Kastofsna, Chizik is a lousy white coach. His record at Iowa State was 5-19! What does a record like that get you? A new job in an even tougher conference with better coaches and a hefty pay raise. That's pathetic. Who's knocking down Sly Croom's door for a job? Or Ron Prince? Or Karl Dorrell? They've won more games as head coaches than Chizik has won.

Chizik is going to get ran over by other SEC coaches. Think about it - he now has to recruit against and coach against the likes of Saban, Myers, Richt, Miles, Nutt, Petrino, Kiffin, and Spurrier. Yeah, good luck with that. And Chizik isn't the reason that Auburn or Texas had such great talent. Tuberville is as masterful a recruiter as Brown. He lured the likes of Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown, Marcus McNeil, Jay Ratliff, Jason Campbell, Marcus Washington, and Carlos Rogers to Auburn. He's as good as it gets as a recruiter. Add to the fact that Alabama is back on top of the world and Chizik has the makings of a beautiful mess.

Turner Gil took a nothing program and turned them into champions of the MAC in three years. Three years people. At Buffalo. I didn't even know that Buffalo had a football program yet alone played in the MAC before Gil put them on the map. They say that he is a better person than he is a coach. They say that he makes his players better people, not only better players. Why would Auburn not take a chance on him instead of Chizik? What has Chizik done as a Head Coach besides lose? It's deep South racism and the good ol' boy network at work at its finest.
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When Chizik was the Iowa head coach he did not recruit well. Rivals ranked his three recruit classes as 60th, 62nd, and 76th. In his three years, he actually managed to get a little worse each year. His predecessor, Dan McCarney's last three recruit classes were 42nd, 58th, and 63rd.

Chizik is a Def coordinator who can help make good talent look good. However, he is unable to go out and get that talent and simply not cut out to be a head coach.
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And memo to you Kastofsna, Chizik is a lousy white coach.
yup, that's what i said. but i meant that if it was a lousy white coach who WASN'T associated with Auburn then i'd have a different opinion. this is a terrible hire but not for racist reasons, they just wanted to get a familiar face in there

btw i can't see Auburn, or any other major SEC program, hiring ANY coach of an 8-5 MAC team with no ties to the conference at all. and if you look at Gill's coaching career, i don't know if he's even ready to make that big of a leap. his next step should be trying to turn around a program bigger than Buffalo, like Washington State or Syracuse (i know they just hired someone, but it's jsut an example)
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Looks like my article may be closer to the truth. What a messed up move when you already had a guy as good as Chizik. this is going to get ugly.No matter what big wigs or good ole boys think, most seem not happy


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3770769
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yup, that's what i said. but i meant that if it was a lousy white coach who WASN'T associated with Auburn then i'd have a different opinion. this is a terrible hire but not for racist reasons, they just wanted to get a familiar face in there

btw i can't see Auburn, or any other major SEC program, hiring ANY coach of an 8-5 MAC team with no ties to the conference at all. and if you look at Gill's coaching career, i don't know if he's even ready to make that big of a leap. his next step should be trying to turn around a program bigger than Buffalo, like Washington State or Syracuse (i know they just hired someone, but it's jsut an example)
Maybe Gill should go to Iowa State
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yeah, definitely not a race thing, if it were some other lousy white coach i might say so, but Chizik is a familiar face from a familiar place and they just want to keep that going. it's still a "good ole boy" thing, just not a racial thing
But of course, Barkley, and I am sure eventually Stephen A. Smith, had to make it a race issue....
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also, shouldn't Brady Hoke have gotten more consideration at a place like Auburn than Turner Gill? i'd say he's had a more impressive resume overall
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#1: Chizik was an Aubrun defensive coordinator for what, 2,3 years, and was part of the reason they went undefeated a few years back.
#2: Texas. He was the defensive coordinator for Texas durring their championship run.
#3: Turner Gill. Does he have any SEC experience? Has he ever been to Texas, Mississippi, Alabama?
#4. Chizik already knows the entire Auburn organization. They wont skip a beat with recruiting and how things run.

Maybe it was the right hire, maybe it was the wrong. But it was not about race. No matter how bad you want that to be true Charles.
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Default Re: Auburn hires Gene Chizik

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#1: Chizik was an Aubrun defensive coordinator for what, 2,3 years, and was part of the reason they went undefeated a few years back.
#2: Texas. He was the defensive coordinator for Texas durring their championship run.
#3: Turner Gill. Does he have any SEC experience? Has he ever been to Texas, Mississippi, Alabama?
#4. Chizik already knows the entire Auburn organization. They wont skip a beat with recruiting and how things run.

Maybe it was the right hire, maybe it was the wrong. But it was not about race. No matter how bad you want that to be true Charles.
Chizik was playing with players that were recruited by masterful recruiters Tommy Tuberville and Mack Brown. Those weren't Chizik's recruits. And who cares if Turner Gil has any SEC experience? Urban Meyer didn't have any SEC experience. Didn't seem to matter. Didn't seem to matter at UT with Lane Kiffin either. Some of you guys don't like Barkley just because of how outspoken he is. But the one fact that you guys are overlooking is that Charles knows that school better than any of us commenting on what he said do. He grew up in Alabama, graduated from Auburn, and is a proud and involved alumnus of the school. He knows the decision makers at Auburn better than we do. If he says that it was a racist decision not to hire Gil, then, well, he knows what is going on over there better than we do.

All I know is this - Saban, Meyer, Kiffin, and Richt are all licking their chops at getting some of those recruits away from Auburn. Good luck with that Chizik. Hope those in the Auburn "family" support you in three years when Saban is kicking the hell out of Auburn on the field and on the recruiting trail.

P.S. - When is Charlie Strong, the DC at Florida, going to get a HC opportunity? I mean, he does know the SEC really well. He's coached at South Carolina and now Florida. I just wonder if his skin has anything to do with it?
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