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Old 12-11-2008   #1
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Barry Sanders played at 5'8" 200 lbs.

Steve Slaton plays at 5'9" 203 lbs.

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Barry Sanders, in his rookie year, gained 1,491 yards on 343 attempts
with a 4.3 yard per carry average.

Steve Slaton, after 12 games, has gained 1,024 yards on 206 attempts
with a 5.0 yard per carry average. Extrapolated over 16 games, he's on pace for 1,365 yards on 274 attempts.

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Barry Sanders' longest rush in his rookie year was for 73 yards and resulted in a touchdown.

Steve Slaton's longest rush in his rookie year, so far, was for 71 yards and resulted in a touchdown.

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Barry Sanders caught 37 receptions his rookie year for 289 yards and a 7.8 yard per catch average.
His longest reception was 44 yards.

Steve Slaton has caught 37 receptions so far his rookie year for 290 yards and a 7.8 yard per catch average.
His longest reception so far has been 46 yards.

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Barry Sanders fumbled three times and lost two of them his rookie year.

Steve Slaton has fumbled 2 times and lost one of them in his rookie year.

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Barry Sanders had 4 touchdowns rushing and 0 receiving his rookie year.

Steve Slaton has had 8 touchdowns rushing and 1 receiving his rookie year.

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Barry Sanders had a Hall of Fame career and in most circles is considered one of the best if not THE best running back in the history of the NFL.

Question: Is there anybody reading these stats who still thinks Steve Slaton has to be considered a third-down back who is only holding the place of a bigger as-yet undrafted running back who will carry the load for the Texans?
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Question: Is there anybody reading these stats who still thinks Steve Slaton has to be considered a third-down back who is only holding the place of a bigger as-yet undrafted running back who will carry the load for the Texans?
No, I don't think anybody does, but we MIGHT need a short-yardage back for about....oh, 6 carries a game at most.
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Default Re: Steve Slaton versus Barry Sanders

damn...I love Slaton too, but we probably need to hold off of the comparisons to one of the all time elites until at least his second year?

I do love those similarities though!
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Barry Sanders played at 5'8" 200 lbs.

Steve Slaton plays at 5'9" 203 lbs.

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Barry Sanders, in his rookie year, gained 1,491 yards on 343 attempts
with a 4.3 yard per carry average.

Steve Slaton, after 12 games, has gained 1,024 yards on 206 attempts
with a 5.0 yard per carry average. Extrapolated over 16 games, he's on pace for 1,365 yards on 274 attempts.


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Barry Sanders' longest rush in his rookie year was for 73 yards and resulted in a touchdown.

Steve Slaton's longest rush in his rookie year, so far, was for 71 yards and resulted in a touchdown.

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Barry Sanders caught 37 receptions his rookie year for 289 yards and a 7.8 yard per catch average.
His longest reception was 44 yards.

Steve Slaton has caught 37 receptions so far his rookie year for 290 yards and a 7.8 yard per catch average.
His longest reception so far has been 46 yards.

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Barry Sanders fumbled three times and lost two of them his rookie year.

Steve Slaton has fumbled 2 times and lost one of them in his rookie year.

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Barry Sanders had 4 touchdowns rushing and 0 receiving his rookie year.

Steve Slaton has had 8 touchdowns rushing and 1 receiving his rookie year.

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Barry Sanders had a Hall of Fame career and in most circles is considered one of the best if not THE best running back in the history of the NFL.

Question: Is there anybody reading these stats who still thinks Steve Slaton has to be considered a third-down back who is only holding the place of a bigger as-yet undrafted running back who will carry the load for the Texans?
We have played 13 games, (we're 6-7) and he has 1024 yards after 13 games so this stat is not accurate nor is the prediction. Still impressive though by Speedy Slaton.
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Default Re: Steve Slaton versus Barry Sanders

In todays game you have to have a decent second RB. When Slaton breaks off a 50+ yarder but gets tackled, he needs a spell before coming back in.

I don't want to Earl Cambell this guy into retirement. Earl left, Earl right, Earl up the middle was the Oilers playbook. Lets not repeat the mistakes of the past.

Not to take anything away from Slaton, but wouldn't it be nice to have Earl cloned!!!!!! What a duo that would be!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Default Re: Steve Slaton versus Barry Sanders

Let's... just stick to comparing him to Reggie Bush for now, LOL. We were all excited about Okoye and Bennett this year, and they have had HUGE sophomore slumps.

Interesting numbers, though.
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Default Re: Steve Slaton versus Barry Sanders

To be fair, Barry Sanders did that with an O-line that would make even our worst ones blush. They were really bad when it came to run blocking.
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We have played 13 games, (we're 6-7) and he has 1024 yards after 13 games so this stat is not accurate nor is the prediction. Still impressive though by Speedy Slaton.
Doh! All right, throw out the extrapolation of final yards and attempts. Everything else is still accurate and what's really impressive for Slaton is the yards per carry average as well as the total touchdowns.
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Default Re: Steve Slaton versus Barry Sanders

Did Emmitt have numbers that good his rookie year, because if he didn't that means Slaton will win us at least 3 Superbowls.

I put a lot of thought into that one.
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Default Re: Steve Slaton versus Barry Sanders

The incredible thing about Barry Sanders is that when he broke long ones, its because he knew what the defense was going to do and he knew what he was going to do to counter it. LaDanian Tomlinson claims to have the same skill, but the only guy I've seen with a similar skill is a kid from Memphis who could manipulate a defense as he ran. He plays for the Panthers now and lead the league in rushing touchdowns last I checked.
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The first time I saw he was going to wear number 20 I was thinking that's a good thing because that was Barry's number. While he has exceeded expectations this season and is having a great rookie campain, lets hold off on the Barry Sanders comparisons........ for now.
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Did Emmitt have numbers that good his rookie year, because if he didn't that means Slaton will win us at least 3 Superbowls.

I put a lot of thought into that one.
I was a little surprised when I looked up Emmitt to compare him with Slaton because Emmitt played much bigger. He was 5'10" and 221 lbs. Emmitt's rookie numbers were less impressive but I seem to recall he held out for quite a while before his rookie season and thus missed a chance to come out of the gate quickly. 241 attempts. 947 yards. 11 touchdowns. Long of 48. 3.9 yard per carry average.
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Default Re: Steve Slaton versus Barry Sanders

I don't know if Barry is the guy I'd compare Stevie Franchise to. I rewatched the Green Bay game to see exactly why he was able to run all over them. He sped by defenders by the time they realized it was a run play. It's amazing how quick he can find a line and burst through it. His feet are crazy quick and like AJ, he does a lot of little things to get by a defender. Unfortunately, he seems to have a problem getting by the last man.
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In defense of his post I did not see him say we have a Barry Sanders only that their rookie stats have some similarity. However I have not seen anyone in the past with the ability to change direction and get out of trouble the way Sanders could and I still dont see it! The stats look similar but the running style and ability to appear out from under three tacklers are very different.

Thats said it beats him having rookie numbers that suck!
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The first time I saw he was going to wear number 20 I was thinking that's a good thing because that was Barry's number. While he has exceeded expectations this season and is having a great rookie campain, lets hold off on the Barry Sanders comparisons........ for now.

In spite of the title of this thread, my intent was not to suggest that Slaton could be the next Barry Sanders. Rather I wanted to illustrate that a small running back can carry the load for a franchise. When I really started digging into the numbers I couldn't believe some of the similarities.
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I don't know if Barry is the guy I'd compare Stevie Franchise to. I rewatched the Green Bay game to see exactly why he was able to run all over them. He sped by defenders by the time they realized it was a run play. It's amazing how quick he can find a line and burst through it. His feet are crazy quick and like AJ, he does a lot of little things to get by a defender. Unfortunately, he seems to have a problem getting by the last man.
I know you weren't hanging that second hand bad luck nickname on Steve Slaton so I'm just going to say that Steve Francis plays basketball, not football and leave it at that.
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Question: Is there anybody reading these stats who still thinks Steve Slaton has to be considered a third-down back who is only holding the place of a bigger as-yet undrafted running back who will carry the load for the Texans?
Personally, I think we should exclusively draft third down backs. So far, the track record's pretty good on that front.
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I know you weren't hanging that second hand bad luck nickname on Steve Slaton so I'm just going to say that Steve Francis plays basketball, not football and leave it at that.
I'm taking it back.
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I have not seen anyone in the past with the ability to change direction and get out of trouble the way Sanders could and I still dont see it! The stats look similar but the running style and ability to appear out from under three tacklers are very different.
Agreed. Watching Sanders, you would often finding yourself saying: "No freaking way did he just do that." And then you'd see the replay and you'd say: "Oh my God, he DID just do that." I haven't had that happen with Slaton and I don't expect it to happen very often with him, if ever. Even so, I think he could carry the load.
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