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According to multiple sources within the Dallas Cowboys, there is an emerging internal conflict involving three of the team's highest-profile stars.


As the preseason Super Bowl favorites struggle in the final month of the season to simply make the playoffs, wide receiver Terrell Owens has expressed resentment toward Tony Romo, apparently jealous of the quarterback's relationship with tight end Jason Witten.


Owens feels that Romo and Witten -- close friends and road roommates who came to Dallas in the same offseason -- hold private meetings in which they create plays the two will use in upcoming games without including Owens in the conversations, according to a source who speaks regularly with Owens' teammates. Owens believes these discussions have worked to his detriment as Romo seeks to deliver the ball to Witten regardless of whether Owens is open.

"I don't know anything about that," Wade Phillips said when asked about a possible rift at his news conference on Thursday.



"We've thrown for a lot of yards with a lot of players. One receiver is pretty close to 1,000 yards. ... There's no favoritism there, we are going to the guy that is going to be open."


Owens declined to discuss the situation on Thursday outside the Cowboys' locker room. As he walked toward the players' lounge at Valley Ranch, ESPN asked Owens if he would answer questions and he said, "Nope.''


Linebacker Bradie James acknowledged to ESPN that his status as one of the team captains has caused him to play a peacemaker role between Romo and Owens.

"Whenever the fire gets blazing, I know,'' James said. "Sometimes, I don't want to step on anybody's toes, but we all talk.

"It just is what it is ... It's just two different guys, two different personalities and they know what's at stake. They know that everybody needs them. And there's no dislike. It's just sometimes, not everybody is going to see eye to eye. That's what makes a football team.''


A current Cowboys player compared Owens' behavior to that which led to problems with his former quarterbacks, Jeff Garcia in San Francisco and Donovan McNabb in Philadelphia. Those failed relationships and problems with the head coaches and other teammates led to Owens' exile from those teams and made him available to Dallas owner Jerry Jones in 2006.

"He's insecure about it,'' the player said of Owens. "The thing that bothers me more than anything about this problem is that it's always something with him -- San Fran, Philly and here; always something. And he brings other people into it. You know, he talks to Sam Hurd and Roy Williams, who just got here and doesn't really know these guys. TO talks to him and so now he probably thinks Witten politics with Tony for the ball.

"That's so far from the truth. You think Tony is throwing to him because that's his buddy? His best buddy is Bobby Carpenter, and that's not helping him too much. It's crazy to think that, and I hate that he acts that way.''

Witten leads the Cowboys with 64 receptions to 55 for Owens, who has a team-high 848 receiving yards and nine touchdowns. According to one of the sources, Owens cannot fathom how Romo and offensive coordinator Jason Garrett justify the tight end having more catches than does Owens even though the latter ranks among the most accomplished receivers in NFL history.

There has so far been no known confrontation between Romo and Owens, who have combined for 33 touchdowns since 2006, the most of any quarterback-receiver tandem in the NFL during that time. Romo has always been careful to make certain Owens felt appreciated so that he would compete hard and not cause the kind of upheaval he did with his previous teams.

But one teammate suggested Romo is frustrated enough that he might initiate a different approach, although not the confrontational kind that some believe might solve the problem.

"To be completely honest, I just think Tony is over it; not like, "Screw it.' But I think Tony is over the mind games,'' the player said. "It would help if Tony would stand up to him, but he would never do it. He does a great job of ignoring it and not letting it affect him, and that's why it has worked as good as it has. It's just hard. I think right now everybody is to the point where, "We're going to need him, so let's not piss him off.''

But Owens seems to be finding it increasingly difficult to conceal his irritation. Last week in Pittsburgh, on the first possession of the Cowboys' most important game of the season, a team source who reviewed the game tape said Romo threw an interception when Owens mysteriously failed to complete his route. Troy Polamalu intercepted the ball at the place where Romo expected Owens to be. Later in the half, Romo underthrew a pass for Owens that was intercepted by Ike Taylor and Owens gestured openly in Romo's direction as he walked toward the sideline that the ball should have been thrown further upfield.

But what upset Owens' teammates most of all was his response to the interception Romo threw on a pass intended for Witten that Deshea Townsend returned for the game-winning touchdown in a 20-13 defeat. Both the quarterback and tight end publicly accepted blame for the Cowboys' season-high fifth turnover. In contrast, Owens said the offense stunk, that the team can't win with turnovers like those and then suggested his defender was playing off in single coverage and that he was open but Romo decided to throw elsewhere on the fatal play.

On the sideline, Owens was seen yelling at a Cowboys assistant coach. In his press conference after the game, Owens implied that Romo's decision to throw to Witten was the wrong one, saying, "It's his job to go out there and assess what the defense is, and he made that decision.''

That incensed some Cowboys, one of whom said, "If you only knew all that guy does. It's gonna go down with him before it's all over with. He is unbelievable. Tough loss and he does that?''

Until then, Cowboys insiders considered Owens' most damaging behavior the interview he did with former Cowboys cornerback Deion Sanders on the NFL Network in which he suggested Dallas' offensive system under Garrett was responsible for his worst statistical season since his rookie year with the 49ers. Owens also hinted that Romo and the other Dallas quarterbacks who played when the starter was injured were not making getting him the ball a high enough priority. "I can't throw it and catch it,'' Owens said.

At least one prominent Cowboys player was displeased that the coaching staff responded to the criticism by seemingly placating Owens in that Sunday's game against San Francisco, allowing him enough opportunities that he posted his best statistical line as a Cowboy: seven catches for 213 yards, including 75-yard TD.

"Well, TO got his way,'' the player said. "It never fails how we operate around here. Drives me crazy, but what can you do?''

Cowboys coach Wade Phillips justified Owens' argument by agreeing that getting him the ball needed to be the first offensive priority, and then owner Jerry Jones further empowered him by claiming he had no issue with anything Owens said in the interview.

Said another source: "What do you think he said after he complained about not getting the ball and then in the San Francisco game he gets 213? He said, "Look. It works. The more hell I raise, the more I get what I want.''

Owens in March signed a four-year contract extension worth $34 million, including a $12.9 million signing bonus to bind him to the Cowboys through the 2011 season.

When asked if Romo and Owens were all right together as the team prepares to play the defending Super Bowl champion New York Giants on Sunday, James said, "Yeah. It's gotta be. It better be.''

The latest controversy comes toward the end of a season that began with Owens saying in training camp that he shared a relationship with Romo that he never had with other quarterbacks with whom he played. That, Owens said, was because Romo knew he was the star of the Cowboys and was not threatened by Owens' status as were previous quarterbacks.

"I guess sometimes I've just been in situations where the quarterbacks felt like I was bigger than them,'' Owens said in July. "And, you know, that was never the case. I felt like whatever I did complemented the quarterback, whatever he did, vice versa. It's just been a situation where things happen, where things didn't work out.''

Romo seemed equally at peace with Owens. "The thing about it is there's a genuine caring about each other. I actually want the guy to succeed. He works hard, he works his butt off. And he cares about the guys, so it's easy to root for a guy like that.

"It's important for us to be on the same page. It's important for us to care about the other one, just because our success is directly related. ... The thing you notice mostly about him is that he talks about 'team' a lot. He wants to win. He understands that, at this stage of his career, he's done all the things individually he can do. Now, it's just a matter of winning.''

Whether it is like that anymore -- and whether the Cowboys can achieve their own stated goals with the relationship between Owens and Romo and Witten being what it is now -- remains to be determined.

Since Romo became Dallas' starter, he has completed more passes to Witten than to Owens, 201-186, although Owens has significantly more yards and three times as many touchdowns.

"You really want to address it with him and say, "Are you serious? Let's cut the [sh--]. But we're trying to win our way into the playoffs and, if something like that happened, if you backed him into a corner, he'd be pissed off and try to fight you or something,'' the current Cowboys player said. "So what do you do? Let it go? Then you're just like everybody else. If he's got a problem and he's upset, clear the air. He should know that everything we do on offense goes through him."
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The guy is so insecure. If he wasn't such an asshole about it I would feel sorry for him.
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T.O. Is a Turd..
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Wonder if he'll take another trip around the NFC again...
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I never saw this coming. T-HO is a asshat and cry baby.





I thought he was your QB,T-HO?

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The guy is so insecure. If he wasn't such an asshole about it I would feel sorry for him.
exactly.

When Rod Tidwell has a good game ,boy he blabs about it to everyone and anyone.. but if things go wrong Rod has no heart and won't put in the extra effort in the game to get things done..

and as Rod Tidwell said in Jerry Mcguire.. "Well boo ******** Hoo"



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i find it most humorous because nobody on the cowboys bothers to point out that owens doesnt catch anything thrown his way. owens leads the team with 113 targets but only has 55 receptions ... the crybaby doesnt bring in half of the throws to him. witten on the other hand brings in 67% of throws his way (andre johnson also at the 67% mark).

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The guy is so insecure. If he wasn't such an asshole about it I would feel sorry for him.
Exactly. It just annoys me that he knows that his QB isn't throwing him under the bus yet he keeps this up. I mean did Romo call him out after games last year and say..."well the offense would have been going smoother without the drops."
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LOL - what other things qualified you to make such an astute observation? Your ability to see and hear?
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LOL - what other things qualified you to make such an astute observation? Your ability to see and hear?
No, just reading more news coming out of there than the average Texan fan....smart ass. Anything else to add Sherlock
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I think it's just too easy to read media crap, and not think for our selves, and make our own opinions.

I think it's funny, when the media says something about our team, that it's called out for the crap that it is, but when they put out garbage about a player everyone loves to hate, we swallow it, hook, line, & sinker....... heck, we beg for more, and we feed the fire.

1. Terrell Owens was right in San Fran....... Jeff Garcia & Mariuchi were parts of the problem... If you took those two out of SF, left Owens with a coach & QB who would feature Owens as the main event, the 49ers would not have fallen sooooo low.

2. Terrell Owens was right in Philly....... witness the breakdown between Reed & McNabb.. witness the talks of trading McNabb... rumors that Reid won't be in Philly next year......

3. Terrell Owens was right in Dallas. There was no pressure on him at all, and he threw the ball was out of his hands, before any of his receivers got out of their breaks. Terrell was wide open, breaking to the outside, for what would have been an easy first down. Witten was in traffic, double covered..... the ball never should have gone to Witten. The throw shouldn't have been rushed...... Romo had his mind made up before they even snapped the ball.

This whole article is based on speculation and un-named players.

Everyone of you would have been just as upset, if you realized you never were given an opportunity to help your team on what turned out to be the last play of the game.

The last two actually.
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I think it's just too easy to read media crap, and not think for our selves, and make our own opinions.

I think it's funny, when the media says something about our team, that it's called out for the crap that it is, but when they put out garbage about a player everyone loves to hate, we swallow it, hook, line, & sinker....... heck, we beg for more, and we feed the fire.

1. Terrell Owens was right in San Fran....... Jeff Garcia & Mariuchi were parts of the problem... If you took those two out of SF, left Owens with a coach & QB who would feature Owens as the main event, the 49ers would not have fallen sooooo low.

2. Terrell Owens was right in Philly....... witness the breakdown between Reed & McNabb.. witness the talks of trading McNabb... rumors that Reid won't be in Philly next year......

3. Terrell Owens was right in Dallas. There was no pressure on him at all, and he threw the ball was out of his hands, before any of his receivers got out of their breaks. Terrell was wide open, breaking to the outside, for what would have been an easy first down. Witten was in traffic, double covered..... the ball never should have gone to Witten. The throw shouldn't have been rushed...... Romo had his mind made up before they even snapped the ball.

This whole article is based on speculation and un-named players.

Everyone of you would have been just as upset, if you realized you never were given an opportunity to help your team on what turned out to be the last play of the game.

The last two actually.
I respectfully disagree. Your assessment is based on talent, not on fact of what happens in a lockerroom. The guy forced his way out of San Fran, cried when he got traded to Baltimore and got his way to Philly, where he pulled the same crap. He is without a doubt a talented guy but if your team is 10-0 for example and the last 3 games you have only had 3, 4 and 3 catches respectivelly yet you are still winning spreading the ball around, then there is no reason to *****. That is TOs problem. He is selfish. I read every piece of Cowboy news that I can and even listen to family in the metroplex and a brother that works for them and the fact remains that TO bitches even if they win 48-0...it comes down to how many catches he got. Romo made many mistakes this past game and it went beyond TO. I saw him take 2 sacks when the RB was wide open waving his arms int he flat and he was looking to go downfield. If TO is double covered it doesn't matter. As the article said there are many that thought he quit on his routes. Do you see other teammates calling him out for dropping game changing passes two years ago..specifically games vs Washington?I like guys who want to win and sometimes he should ***** if the team is playing like they don't care. But he bitches even if things are good and it always revolves around TO not getting his. There were alot of guys open throughout the game but you don't see them bitching all week. Plus, when is the last time a WR didn't think he was wide open?
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I can't wait until the day Roy Williams is thrown a ton of balls and gets the spotlight. As he says, "Get your popcorn ready".
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I will sit back, relax, and see if anything unfolds. At this time, I'm not convinced. If anythings comes of of this, then I will acknowledge that my refusal to believe the worst, and if it's a publicity stunt I will be the first to lol.
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I respectfully disagree. Your assessment is based on talent, not on fact of what happens in a lockerroom. The guy forced his way out of San Fran, cried when he got traded to Baltimore and got his way to Philly, where he pulled the same crap. He is without a doubt a talented guy but if your team is 10-0 for example and the last 3 games you have only had 3, 4 and 3 catches respectivelly yet you are still winning spreading the ball around, then there is no reason to *****. That is TOs problem. He is selfish. I read every piece of Cowboy news that I can and even listen to family in the metroplex and a brother that works for them and the fact remains that TO bitches even if they win 48-0...it comes down to how many catches he got. Romo made many mistakes this past game and it went beyond TO. I saw him take 2 sacks when the RB was wide open waving his arms int he flat and he was looking to go downfield. If TO is double covered it doesn't matter. As the article said there are many that thought he quit on his routes. Do you see other teammates calling him out for dropping game changing passes two years ago..specifically games vs Washington?I like guys who want to win and sometimes he should ***** if the team is playing like they don't care. But he bitches even if things are good and it always revolves around TO not getting his. There were alot of guys open throughout the game but you don't see them bitching all week. Plus, when is the last time a WR didn't think he was wide open?
When was his team 10-0, and TO was bitching about not getting any catches??

I think the issue was always that they didn't win, and they weren't trying to get him the ball. As long as they've won, TO was happy, whether being a decoy, or blocking downfield.
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I will sit back, relax, and see if anything unfolds. At this time, I'm not convinced. If anythings comes of of this, then I will acknowledge that my refusal to believe the worst, and if it's a publicity stunt I will be the first to lol.
I'm not taking it as anything too serious....except, as I said above that it doesn't really surprise me and I can see it being that way...unless they lose some games here and miss the playoffs and then we will see what transpires.
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a majority of the league knew Owens was a whiner and a locker room cancer before he went to Dallas. IMO, this is overdue and was only delayed as TO was happy with the previous progress the team seemed to be making.

of course I'm not a Cowboys fan, just a casual observer as I am other teams besides ours, but Jerry Jones may have a Perfect Storm about to bust loose up there.
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When was his team 10-0, and TO was bitching about not getting any catches??

I think the issue was always that they didn't win, and they weren't trying to get him the ball. As long as they've won, TO was happy, whether being a decoy, or blocking downfield.
I said "for example" with the 10-0. Not fact. That hasn't always been the issue. I've watched games where he has sulked off the field after wins because he wasn't a big part of it. He doesn't like being a decoy. He has shown some of that this year. The guy works his ass off and is a talent. You can't call him a slacker. But he is one bad outting away from being toxic all the time. I haven't minded his work on the Cowboys but I also accept that he is one bad outburst from being gone. I thought he might be understood in SF until the Baltimore stunt
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